Netflix Docu-Series of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (2022)

[HighGoalHighDreams]

To the time The Queen died, I doubt very much she knew that the couple had a photographer following them and documenting their lives for a reality tv show in her home.

The Queen did nothing about this serious and appalling breach of safety and protocol because the breach took place after she had died. The breach wasn’t taking the photos.

We can be assured many hundreds or thousands such photos exist of the Wales couple and Their Majesties, and did of The Queen and Phillip. These behind-the-scenes moments are documented for posterity. The classmates of George’s grandchildren will see them in textbooks.

The breach here is posting these photographs without authorization. And we don’t have to guess what The Queen would have done, because Eugenie once did exactly the same thing on a MUCH smaller scale, posting a picture of her father on his way to a royal duty inside a royal residence. She shared that The Queen reprimanded her and asked her to take it down immediately because it is out of order to publicly share a photo taken of a member of the family in a royal residence.

Unless we are now suggesting that actually it was The Queen who made this deal with Netflix and it was her dying wish for this documentary to be released after she died while the Wales couple were touring, which I am sure will be the suggestion by December 8 from those hoping to explain away the Sussex couple’s appalling behavior.

 

[JR76]

Apologies, I’ve replied too soon and can’t see how to edit on the app.

I use the Android app and there you edit by clicking lightly on the post in question so it turns blue. If you click on the symbol (two tools in an X) that appear at the top of the screen you can edit.

 

[moby]

I’ve never seen such hilarious trolling on a trailer posted in Youtube, ever. And it’s not bots, these are people just creatively taking a piss out of the couple. And the number of dislikes, geesh.

 

[tommy100]

I wonder if the Royal Household could take legal action to prevent any footage from inside royal residence being used? Obviously not the Sussex's own homes but those like BP?

 

[suztav]

I wonder if the Royal Household could take legal action to prevent any footage from inside royal residence being used? Obviously not the Sussex's own homes but those like BP?

I think the Royal Household just wants these two to hang themselves through their own actions and words. No need to bring legal action — the Monticito couple are doing all the damage themselves.

 

[TLLK]

Apologies, I’ve replied too soon and can’t see how to edit on the app.

The Queen did nothing about this serious and appalling breach of safety and protocol because the breach took place after she had died. The breach wasn’t taking the photos.

We can be assured many hundreds or thousands such photos exist of the Wales couple and Their Majesties, and did of The Queen and Phillip. These behind-the-scenes moments are documented for posterity. The classmates of George’s grandchildren will see them in textbooks.

The breach here is posting these photographs without authorization. And we don’t have to guess what The Queen would have done, because Eugenie once did exactly the same thing on a MUCH smaller scale, posting a picture of her father on his way to a royal duty inside a royal residence. She shared that The Queen reprimanded her and asked her to take it down immediately because it is out of order to publicly share a photo taken of a member of the family in a royal residence.

Unless we are now suggesting that actually it was The Queen who made this deal with Netflix and it was her dying wish for this documentary to be released after she died while the Wales couple were touring, which I am sure will be the suggestion by December 8 from those hoping to explain away the Sussex couple’s appalling behavior.

Thank you HighGoalHighDreams. Yes I do recall the photo of the Duke of York dressed for Trooping the Color that had appeared on her Instagram but then was taken down.

 

[Toledo]

Here in the USA, as predicted above the official visit of Prince William and Princess Katherine of Wales to the USA is now tied in the news to the ad for the Netflix series produced by Rory Kennedy and her sister, Kerry Kennedy's million dollar a table charity event on Dec 6th. The event where an award, used as a bait for Meghan and Harry to accept, is now being marketed by Kerry's group as their stand against institutionalized racism directly at Queen Elizabeth and her family.

The winners on all of this are Rory and Kerry Kennedy because the free publicity will convert into money for that tax shelter called non-profit that Kerri runs and for Rory's film production company. Harry and Meghan also win my Shameless Award, this for not knowing their Oprah interview would cause a chain reaction that would expose both of them. And I assume they thought having a photographer follow them around would be a good idea for later deal$. Sure, that expert camera was not floating everywhere by itself behind them.

As results, every article about the Princes of Wales visit includes now the names of Meghan and Harry, riding on their coattails to get free publicity for the award event and the TV series, plus mentions of Harry's book in January.

Thanks, Meghan, Harry, Rory and Kerry Kennedy and Netflix for stealing the spotlight from the Prince and Princess of Wales' official visit to the USA. As I said before I expected better from Meghan and Harry and now that I feel being fooled by them is wearing off fast. I'm also glad William and Kate are not lowering themselves to their standards.

 

[Granada]

Well I saw a story that caught my eye about backlash starting from surprising places regarding the Harry and Meghan Reality Series.
It seems it was a topic on The View and not seen as especially favorably. They played a clip of the Trailer and mused how it dropped while William and Kate were in the States.
One of the panel Anna Navarro said she was sick seeing them as victims......"every time I see Harry and Meghan I wish they weren't crying and wiping away tears AND THEY WOULD BE GIVING ME SOMETHING POSITIVE ". Ouch.
Then there was cross talk, and another panelist brought up the racism allegations and Joy Behar said that was "hearsay" and there was "no proof".
WOWZA.
Then the suspicious timing of the Video Trailer was brought up and that was debated as a vehicle for maximum publicity. With the comment
then over the cross talk of Anna Navarro saying 'I thought they wanted privacy " ?

Then Joy came back with the dismissive "Do we really care " ?
Never a good look then when you are being openly mocked.

All in all, certainly did not seem like a positive discussion for the actions of the Sussex's. Whoopie Goldberg wasn't there to participate, but I will say that I find this conversation very telling.
"The View" Audience is exactly the market that The Sussex's are going for. AND if this is feedback The Sussex's are getting now, it just shows that their "Victim Card" of the big bad Royal Family seems to be expiring !

 

[Moonmaiden23]

Here in the USA, as predicted above the ad for the Netflix series produced by Rory Kennedy is now tied in mentions with her sister, Kerry Kennedy's million dollar a table charity event on Dec 6th. The event where an award, used as a bait for Meghan and Harry to accept, is now being marketed by Kerry's group as their stand against institutionalized racism directly at Queen Elizabeth and her family.

The winners on all of this are Rory and Kerry Kennedy because the free publicity will convert into money for that tax shelter called non-profit that Kerri runs and for Rory's film production company. Harry and Meghan also win my Shameless Award, this for not knowing their Oprah interview would cause a chain reaction that would expose both of them. And I assume they thought having a photographer follow them around would be a good idea for later deal$. Sure, that expert camera was not floating everywhere by itself behind them.

As results, every article about the Princes of Wales visit includes now the names of Meghan and Harry, riding on their coattails to get free publicity for the award event and the TV series, plus mentions of Harry's book in January.

Thanks, Meghan, Harry, Rory and Kerry Kennedy and Netflix for stealing the spotlight from the Prince and Princess of Wales' official visit to the USA. As I said before I expected better from Meghan and Harry and now that I feel being fooled by them is wearing off fast. I'm also glad William and Kate are not lowering themselves to their standards.

I don't believe it's as bad as all that. Robert F. Kennedy is an American icon and was a childhood hero of mine. But let's just be honest. A visit to the JFK Library to be hosted by the surviving child of President Kennedy is THE ultimate in prestige events....trumped only by a visit to the White House itself, or even the JFK Profile in Courage Award recently won by Liz Cheney.

Just Google a list of Profile In Courage Award winners vs. Ripple of Hope winners to catch my drift.

The Ripple Of Hope Award might seem more flashy because...well...it is.

But the substance event goes to the Wales, and even Kerry likely knows a visit to her late Uncle Jack's Presidential Library hosted by her ambassador cousin Caroline holds more gravitas.

That's not even taking into account that the sitting US President took time out of his schedule to greet the Wales. I am not sure he has ever done that for Harry and Meghan despite their nearly 4 year US residency.

The Sussexes might have won the battle. The Wales win this particular war imo.

 

[Mbruno]

Thanks, Meghan, Harry, Rory and Kerry Kennedy and Netflix for stealing the spotlight from the Prince and Princess of Wales' official visit to the USA. As I said before I expected better from Meghan and Harry and now that I feel being fooled by them is wearing off fast. I'm also glad William and Kate are not lowering themselves to their standards.

Again, I would like to insist on this point: although that gets lost sometimes in a US-centric view of the world, it is irrelevant to the Prince and Princess of Wales whether they are popular in the United States or not. It is Meghan and Harry who need an American audience to pay for their Santa Barbara mansion.

Nevertheless, according to YouGov, William and Kate still have a high, positive favorability rating in the US, although not as high as their positive favorability rating in the UK, which is the only number that really matters to them.

That is why the Sussexes' feud with the Royal Family is a "no-win" situation for them. Unless they could make a significant dent in the monarchy's standing in the UK, which they haven't been able to do so far, the King, the Queen Consort, and the Waleses are protected and secured by their institutional position (they are not merely celebrities). Meghan and Harry, on the other hand, have now to fend for themselves and, the more they attack the RF, the more they risk being drawn further apart from it when they actually depend on a connection to the family to stay relevant in the media. Otherwise, I am sorry to say, but they have little to offer on their own that would be of interest to the large public.

 

[Hallo girl]

I think the Royal Household just wants these two to hang themselves through their own actions and words. No need to bring legal action — the Monticito couple are doing all the damage themselves.

The palace are playing the long game. Although I do believe the British Public are really getting fed up with the nonsense.
Lets see what the film and book bring up.

 

[Granada]

Is there a separate thread for the Ripple of Hope Event on Tuesday ?
Since Meghan likes mentioning "Stakes" I think the Stakes got raised in the last 24 hours.
William and Catherine beautifully recovered from the racism bombshell claim dropped on them upon their Boston arrival.
Yesterday, as was Thursday was pitch perfect for them. Just Perfect.
And now the ball is in The Sussex's Court.
What will they say upon receiving The Award ?

I thought it was just appalling and disgraceful when Omid injected The Sussex's docu series Trailer into the Wales Earthshot Award Boston mini Tour.
Saying, "If tomorrow is Williams Superbowl, here is your Halftime Show".

 

[Moonmaiden23]

Omid Scobie does the Sussexes no favors at all. Someone ought to tell them this.

 

[Sunnystar]

I'm in agreement with Granada about the tide of US public opinion starting to turn against the Sussexes. I caught some discussion about them (and the Wales' Boston visit) on Fox News' "Outnumbered" (discussion show similar to The View, but with 4 women & 1 man on the panel - not always the same panelists - there are 3 "permanent" female hosts who sometimes all appear, or just two or sometimes just one). While the Wales' received mostly positive comments (with the exception of one panelist who was just very anti-monarchy in general), the Sussexes were roundly panned.

There just seems to be very little sympathy left, at least in the media, for Harry & Meghan at this point. They've really screwed the pooch, IMO. We'll see how things go with the Netflix series and then Harry's book next month, but I'm not sure how they come back from where they are unless they actually stop the attacks on the BRF and start doing something substantively good and positive.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

With all due respect Fox News is probably not the most reliable source from which to gage American public opinion on the Wales.

Their hosts and even more so their audience tend to lean very conservative/right.

But after perusing a variety of online commentary and news/entertainment sources I agree that Americans are becoming more and more indifferent to Harry and Meghan. The novelty has worn off.

Which means the couple, to their ultimate detriment, will need to result to more fire and fury type publicity gambits via Netflix or some other outlet in order to feed the beast.

This, as they begin to enter middle age in our notoriously youth obsessed society. Half my coworkers are not old enough to even remember Harry's iconic mother.

The clock is running out for the Sussexes.

 

[duchessrachel]

Well I saw a story that caught my eye about backlash starting from surprising places regarding the Harry and Meghan Reality Series.
It seems it was a topic on The View and not seen as especially favorably. They played a clip of the Trailer and mused how it dropped while William and Kate were in the States.
One of the panel Anna Navarro said she was sick seeing them as victims......"every time I see Harry and Meghan I wish they weren't crying and wiping away tears AND THEY WOULD BE GIVING ME SOMETHING POSITIVE ". Ouch.
Then there was cross talk, and another panelist brought up the racism allegations and Joy Behar said that was "hearsay" and there was "no proof".
WOWZA.
Then the suspicious timing of the Video Trailer was brought up and that was debated as a vehicle for maximum publicity. With the comment
then over the cross talk of Anna Navarro saying 'I thought they wanted privacy " ?

Then Joy came back with the dismissive "Do we really care " ?
Never a good then when you are being openly mocked.

All in all, certainly did not seem like a positive discussion for the actions of the Sussex's. Whoopie Goldberg wasn't there to participate, but I will say that I find this conversation very telling.
"The View" Audience is exactly the market that The Sussex's are going for. AND if this is feedback The Sussex's are getting now, it just shows that their "Victim Card" of the big bad Royal Family seems to be expiring !

If H & M have alienated the ladies on The View, they are in pretty deep trouble. I have a very low opinion of The View because they support almost anything woke. If H & M have lost them, they are truly on the outskirts.

I don't believe it's as bad as all that. Robert F. Kennedy is an American icon and was a childhood hero of mine. But let's just be honest. A visit to the JFK Library to be hosted by the surviving child of President Kennedy is THE ultimate in prestige events....trumped only by a visit to the White House itself, or even the JFK Profile in Courage Award recently won by Liz Cheney.

Just Google a list of Profile In Courage Award winners vs. Ripple of Hope winners to catch my drift.

The Ripple Of Hope Award might seem more flashy because...well...it is.

But the substance event goes to the Wales, and even Kerry likely knows a visit to her late Uncle Jack's Presidential Library hosted by her ambassador cousin Caroline holds more gravitas.

That's not even taking into account that the sitting US President took time out of his schedule to greet the Wales. I am not sure he has ever done that for Harry and Meghan despite their nearly 4 year US residency.

The Sussexes might have won the battle. The Wales win this particular war imo.

Exactly. H & M don't understand that the Monarchy knows how to play the long game and will win the war.

Is there a separate thread for the Ripple of Hope Event on Tuesday ?
Since Meghan likes mentioning "Stakes" I think the Stakes got raised in the last 24 hours.
William and Catherine beautifully recovered from the racism bombshell claim dropped on them upon their Boston arrival.
Yesterday, as was Thursday was pitch perfect for them. Just Perfect.
And now the ball is in The Sussex's Court.
What will they say upon receiving The Award ?

I thought it was just appalling and disgraceful when Omid injected The Sussex's docu series Trailer into the Wales Earthshot Award Boston mini Tour.
Saying, "If tomorrow is Williams Superbowl, here is your Halftime Show".

It is appalling, but if Omid really thinks about what he said, no one really cares as much about the Halftime Show as they do the Super Bowl.

 

[soapstar]

The Hope awards and the popularity of various royals is off-topic. Please stick to discussing the Netflix docu-series.

 

[Sunnystar]

With all due respect Fox News is probably not the most reliable source from which to gage American public opinion on the Wales.

Their hosts and even more so their audience tend to lean very conservative/right.

With all due respect, the tenor of Fox News during their daytime line-up is NOT "very conservative/right". At best, it can be characterized as "center-right" and the best informed news anchor about the BRF on any US network at this moment is Martha McCallum, who is so well-informed about the nuances and "rules" that I've half-wondered if she doesn't read/follow this forum.

As far as whether or not it's a reliable gage of American public opinion - consider how evenly split the country is politically as well as its ratings (which far outpace other cable news networks) [.....]

 

[Sionevar]

I’ve never seen such hilarious trolling on a trailer posted in Youtube, ever. And it’s not bots, these are people just creatively taking a piss out of the couple. And the number of dislikes, geesh.

Just had a look, and all I can say is OUCH. I expected dislike or disapproval, but the level of mockery going on there is breathtaking.

 

[ACO]

Harry and Meghan will have a lot of people divided. This was also said yesterday on US media.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1599015515703300096

Clearly very much in support. It will be interesting to see the overall reaction and viewing figures. Next week will be quite the follow. I wonder if they will drop another trailer this weekened.

 

[Erin9]

Well I saw a story that caught my eye about backlash starting from surprising places regarding the Harry and Meghan Reality Series.

It seems it was a topic on The View and not seen as especially favorably. They played a clip of the Trailer and mused how it dropped while William and Kate were in the States.

One of the panel Anna Navarro said she was sick seeing them as victims......"every time I see Harry and Meghan I wish they weren't crying and wiping away tears AND THEY WOULD BE GIVING ME SOMETHING POSITIVE ". Ouch.

Then there was cross talk, and another panelist brought up the racism allegations and Joy Behar said that was "hearsay" and there was "no proof".

WOWZA.

Then the suspicious timing of the Video Trailer was brought up and that was debated as a vehicle for maximum publicity. With the comment

then over the cross talk of Anna Navarro saying 'I thought they wanted privacy " ?



Then Joy came back with the dismissive "Do we really care " ?

Never a good then when you are being openly mocked.



All in all, certainly did not seem like a positive discussion for the actions of the Sussex's. Whoopie Goldberg wasn't there to participate, but I will say that I find this conversation very telling.

"The View" Audience is exactly the market that The Sussex's are going for. AND if this is feedback The Sussex's are getting now, it just shows that their "Victim Card" of the big bad Royal Family seems to be expiring !

It’s definitely not good for Harry and Meghan if shows like The View are over them. And- Whoopi already is- dating back to earlier complaints from Meghan.

Here’s the thing imo- Americans (trying not to generalize- we’re very diverse) have a limited appetite for constant whining, complaining, playing the victim. Doesn’t matter whether they’re conservative or liberal.

That’s what the View was saying: I don’t care anymore. MOVE ON.

What would be interesting to me is (and we’ll probably never really know): how many people watch episode 1, how many watch to episode 3, how many bother to pick it up a week later. And how many actually watch the whole thing.

 

[Durham]

Harry and Meghan will have a lot of people divided. This was also said yesterday on US media.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1599015515703300096

Clearly very much in support. It will be interesting to see the overall reaction and viewing figures. Next week will be quite the follow. I wonder if they will drop another trailer this weekened.

But this woman is incoherent. It's like listening to an atheist criticising the Papacy. The lack of understanding of Britain & it's monarchy in this clip is embarrassing.

She states that "the monarchy colluded with the British media" when it "hunted & caused the death of princess Di".

Is this level of analysis of a foreign institution normal on US TV? This can't possibly be a serious news/discussion programme surely?

 

[Moonmaiden23]

I hope not. God help us all

I was the biggest Diana fangirl you ever saw...but it was Diana herself who "colluded with the media " and contributed to the chaotic circumstances that led to her death.

 

[Sionevar]

I'm in Canada, watch a lot of Canadian and American shows, and I've learned to mute or change the channel when a piece about the BRF comes on. Not because I don't want to hear it, but because I know it will be so full of inaccuracies, I'll end up wanting to throw my mug of tea at the telly.

Even CNN's coverage of the Queen's funeral, where they had a line-up of 'experts' on hand, was pretty cringeworthy at points.

 

[Hallo girl]

I hope not. God help us all

I was the biggest Diana fangirl you ever saw...but it was Diana herself who "colluded with the media " and contributed to the chaotic circumstances that led to her death.

Same here.

 

[Granada]

I think the docu-series will generate big numbers. Initially.
But after 3 or 4 episodes of Meghan and Harry "truth bombs" allegations-grievances, I think interest will fade.
Reminds me of a 1960's song "Is that All There Is? " by Peggy Lee.

I think lots of People are getting disillusioned by the constant refrain of the Sussex's being Victims. Rich, attractive and privileged People. Yes, some aspects of their life had challenges, but WHO Hasnt ? Both were much loved and in both cases coddled by their families to achieve the best outcomes in life for them.
Lots and lots of People don't have the blessings in life they enjoyed even prior to meeting each other.

Their constant complaints and strange need for revenge does have a 'Shelf life'. Its getting old and boring. I think one of the panelists on The View even alluded to it on the View, saying we heard this before....on Oprah.

I also think that the last episode will be some kind of cliffhanger too.

 

[Hallo girl]

But this woman is incoherent. It's like listening to an atheist criticising the Papacy. The lack of understanding of Britain & it's monarchy in this clip is embarrassing.

She states that "the monarchy colluded with the British media" when it "hunted & caused the death of princess Di".

Is this level of analysis of a foreign institution normal on US TV? This can't possibly be a serious news/discussion programme surely?

You have said what I was thinking. Could somebody tell me why an American TV person is so bothered about the British Monarchy. The USA didn’t want the monarchy and got rid of it, fair enough, so why are they so bothered about it.
I think there is an element get your own house in order before telling other countries how to live.
Or is this another example of a nobody looking for their 5 minutes of fame.

 

[Erin9]

You have said what I was thinking. Could somebody tell me why an American TV person is so bothered about the British Monarchy. The USA didn’t want the monarchy and got rid of it, fair enough, so why are they so bothered about it.

I think there is an element get your own house in order before telling other countries how to live.

Or is this another example of a nobody looking for their 5 minutes of fame.

Honestly- I listened to a few seconds of the clip- made it right to the part where she showed her cluelessness about Diana and had to turn it off. Lol I have no idea who this woman is tbh. She certainly isn’t known to me.

This is more like soap opera drama to Americans. “Bothered” is, I think, an overstatement to how many people really care.

 

[ACO]

This is more like soap opera drama to Americans. “Bothered” is, I think, an overstatement to how many people really care.

Now this I agree 100% with. Yes people are curious as we see with anything royal but overall most do not care. We saw locals in Boston flat out not care just as we saw some very excited. People will check out the series out of curiosity but will they want the whole thing? Maybe, maybe not. I have my doubts.

Overall the soap opera is what has us talking mostly. The recent events in the news has brought more eyes to the issues constantly brought up about the monarchy. Obviously The Crown series is newly in minds and both Diana's sons have been all over the news.

But outside of that -- it will be in one ear and out the other.

 

[tommy100]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-f...ntary-will-contrast-treatment-princess-wales/

Apparently part of the "documentary" will see the programme compare coverage of Meghan and her sister in law to see how it was different and why they had no choice but to leave.

I'm obviously not their target audience but I can't imagine that is going to be thrilling watching!