Princess Caroline & Prince Ernst August Current Events 1: Oct.2002 - Nov.2003


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www.ibl.se - Princess Caroline and Charlotte with Mr Friedman, chairman of Marionnaud sponsor of Charlotte. 09/04/2003. Princess Caroline and daughter Charlotte Casiraghi attend horse auction in Bois-le-Roi. © Alain Benainous / Gamma 743318

www.yahoo.com - Prince and Princess Ernst August of Hannover and Lilly zu Sayn-Wittenstein-Berleberg (sp) at the funeral of Prince zu Schaumburg-Lippe.

www.colourpress.com - Boeckeburg, Germany - Today was the funeral of Philipp Ernst Furst zu Schaumburg-Lippe in Boeckeburg. Princess Caroline of Monaco and husband Ernst of Hannover were presents. Photo: Euroimagen

IBL - Mandatory Credit: Photo By FRANK ROLLITZ/REX FEATURES Princess Caroline with Prince Ernst August von Hanover FUNERAL OF PHILIPP ERNST FURST ZU SCHAUMBURG LIPPE, CASTLE BUCKEBURG, GERMANY - 08 SEP 2003 427384/WSH
 

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Well what a way to spend public money....don't the people of Monaco fund the royal family? I mean Prince Ranier doesn't work or anything, does he? Does Caroline? Ernst? How would she have the money to buy an ISLAND?! My stars, I'd want my part back.
 
I know this much about the Grimaldi's money: They were basically broke coming into the 1950's. That's when Aristotle Onassis came up with the idea of turning Monaco into a casino resort for rich people (as I recall, from a book on Onassis that I read, Rainier wanted to turn it into a casino/resort for the masses, Onassis didn't want to have anything to do with the masses). Onassis controlled the "Societe des Bains de Mer" ("SBM") which owns a giant chunk of Monaco, the casinos, The Sporting Club, etc. It was Onassis who made Monaco into the money spinner that it is today. Rainier was able to ease Onassis out and gain control of SBM.

Rainer's money, therefore, has come in the last 4 decades. It comes from gambling and property development, and I suppose sales taxes and property taxes. Remember when you went into Jimmyz and the drink cost a fortune? A chunk was going into the Grimaldi coffers (SBM doesn't own Jimmyz, but the owner of Jimmyz has to rent the place from SBM for a medium size fortune). Why do you think Albert, Caroline and Stephanie have frequented the place so much over the past several decades? Because of the great clientele that Jimmyz attracts? (Not!)

By the way, here's a link to a review of Jimmyz. In particular, read the two scathing reviews by the two Monte Carlo residents, "J" and "Nancy".

http://www.worldsbestbars.com/city/Monaco/Jimmyz.asp

As for other money: I don't think there were any real "crown jewels" to speak of. I could be wrong, but I think most of the royal jewels have been gifts to the Grimaldis in the last 40 years.

As for buying the Croatian "islands" . . . . . . well . . . . the article WAS by "The Globe". We just don't know at this point, without further information. The "islands" could just be a single island, a small spit of land. They might only be renting it. On the other hand, they could have bought two islands, separated by 50 feet of water.

Think about it: if they had real money, they could afford proper bodyguards, i.e. ex-SAS types, who don't get in bed with the client (normally, if a bodyguard even tried close to doing that, he would be fired by his superior officer). And Stephanie wouldn't have opened that clothing store, or whatever it was, and worked behind the till.
 
Originally posted by moosey60@Sep 13th, 2003 - 8:27 pm
Well what a way to spend public money....don't the people of Monaco fund the royal family? I mean Prince Ranier doesn't work or anything, does he? Does Caroline? Ernst? How would she have the money to buy an ISLAND?! My stars, I'd want my part back.
Monegasques do not pay income tax. French that are resident in Monaco may have to pay French taxes, dependant on how long they have lived in Monaco or if they are married to a Monegasque. Estate taxes are low, and I think real estate taxes are low as well.

Don't worry, moosey60, the Monaco royals are not existing on the public purse. Rather, as authoriseduser (great name, by the way) pointed out, they make their money on expensive drinks. ;)
 
I am a little skeptical of the article as well. She couldn't have purshased the whole island chain, as its residents would probably be unhappy, as would the state, which would lose a national park in the transaction. I don't know that there would be an entire island for sale. I think she probably bought a holiday home on one of the islands.

Still, not a bad place to have a holiday home... B)
 
She couldn't have purchased it because she just doesn't have the money. Not even close.

The Globe probably wrote that to sell more copies. The Globe regularly reports that JFK (Senior, not Junior) has been seen in a wheelchair, complete with gray hair . . . . or that some woman has given birth to a space alien (stillbirth of a severely malformed foetus), etc, etc, etc . . .
 
Brijuni National Park Website


Friday, July 4th, 2003
“Princess Caroline of Monaco entered port of Veli Brijun on the 36 meter long motor yacht “PACHA III”. She was sailing with her husband, princ Ernst August of Hannover, son Pierre and daughter Alexandra, and some closest friends. Even this summer Princess Caroline made a short visit to her favourite Archipelago, Brijuni which impressed her and her husband during their first visit to Brijuni in 2001."


Pictures from her visit:

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I couldn't find anything that said that she actually bought a place in Brijuni, but there are several articles that speculate on her intention to buy property.

Excerpt from Glamour and a whiff of gunsmoke
Times Online Travel, 13 July, 2003

"With enough of the folding stuff, you can. One of the reasons the region is a hit with the wealthy is a new law allowing foreigners to buy land, including islands. Princess Caroline of Monaco and her husband, Prince Ernst of Han-over, recently came shopping for one. And Francesca von Habsburg, Archduchess of Austria and one of Europe’s wealthiest women, has reputedly bought a tumbledown monastery on Lopud to use as a summer home."


Excerpt from "Is Croatia the new Cote d'Azur?"
Telegraph, 12 August, 2003

Croatia has been billed, with equal vapidity, as the "hottest new destination for 2003", "the new Med" and "the new Côte d'Azur". Celebrities are flocking there, we are led to believe, abandoning Tuscany and St Tropez faster than you can say Hvar, Korcula and Brac. Even Princess Caroline of Monaco is reported to be buying an island in the area (prices start at £1 million).


The Princess and the Sea
Sunday Herald, 31 August, 2003

Travel: Croatia's Dalmatian Coast is peppered with islands, including the small but bountiful Brijuni. Once a favourite of President Tito, the tranquil island is now a national park

It appeared suddenly one morning. A luxurious blue and white boat looming over the beach like a sky-scraper blocking what had been uninterrupted vistas to the Croatian mainland. Since arriving on Brijuni, I'd not seen anything bigger than the small boat that ferried me to the island so I was intrigued. The hunt for crabs was abandoned in favour of watching the endless buzzing back and forth of jet skis and small speed boats. Apparently this was Reverie, the boat belonging to Princess Caroline of Monaco, as according to local gossip, she has fallen in love with this piece of paradise.
But then Brijuni has long been a playground for the rich and famous. The Roman emperors had their summer holidays here and in the Eighties an Austrian industrialist snapped up the Malaria-stricken island and transformed it into an Adriatic Monte Carlo. Brijuni became the most glamorous health and recreation destination for the rich and talented. But when President Tito found it in 1947 he appropriated it for his cronies. From then on reputation, power and influence, rather than money, was the only passport to the island.

Now a national park, the natural beauty of Brijuni can be enjoyed by everyone although it doesn't really have the feel of a tourist resort. I arrived on the island during a spectacular Mediterranean storm to find no room at the inn apart from the President of Croatia's personal suite. As I steeled myself for a wet journey back to the mainland, a phone call was made, strings were pulled and I suddenly found myself in a palatial villa by the sea. It turned out to be one of the government apartments, but even so, as I stood under a steaming hot shower, I couldn't help but fantasise about who the previous occupants might have been -- maybe even Tito himself? The letter T embroidered on the towels is but one reminder of the former Yugoslav leader whose memory still looms large.

Tito's old Cadillac is the only car on the island -- unless you count the golf carts -- and for a few Kuna you too can ride in the open-top and pretend to be a benevolent dictator. However, I found hiring a bicycle the best way of exploring the island. By the harbour a Venetian fortress has been turned into a museum full of Tito memorabilia including photographs of him with the great and the good. During the summer months, Tito held court in Brijuni receiving numerous delegations from all over the world. It was here that Indira Ghandi, Neru, the Queen, President Nasser of Egypt, Hirohito, Sophia Loren, Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton, to name but a few, were entertained.

As well as notching up appearances with the rich and famous, Tito was a great animal lover and collected a variety of exotic species from this globe-trotting jaunts. He built a special zoo for them on Brijuni and the museum his a collection of his creatures, stuffed for posterity. A sign above the displays proudly states that even in death the animals are well looked after.

As someone who prefers their animals alive, I cycled to the zoo at the far end of the island to see what was left of this eclectic collection -- a few bison, zebras, llamas, giraffes, elephants and even a holy cow. One of the few exotic birds remaining is a cheerful multi-lingual parakeet called Cocky. He keeps children amused for hours imitating their every word or in a screechy voice asks himself how he is -- Kako se Cocky? Elsewhere on the island I came across peacocks and tame deer. These usually lurk at the back of the restaurants on the hunt for scraps of food and will even nibble things out of your hand.

On Brijuni, vegetation is almost as curious as the wildlife. Although mainly Mediterranean with pines, oaks and laurels, the land has been tamed into English-style parklands and there are exotic tangerine groves -- another of Tito's legacies. However, it is the crystal clear sea that is irresistible, dazzling the eye and tempting you at every turn. What's more, every inch of the island's stony coastline is a potential private beach. After Princess Caroline's arrival, my little crab beach didn't quite have the same allure so I cycled round to the public one. It has a restaurant and an ancient blue slide which whizzes you into the water at great speed. The sea is always warm -- around 22¡C to 25¡C but sometimes the heat can be too much of a good thing. If I was a golf fanatic I'd be tempted to have a round on the island's magnificent course, but instead I decide to explore the various ruins. Around the corner from slide beach is what's left of the Temple of Venus opposite an ancient wool mill, Roman villa and what looks like an early spa pool. The most impressive and spectacular ruins are those of the Byzantine Castrum, a walled town by the sea inhabited until the 16th Century. I wonder if it was here that James Joyce celebrated his 23rd birthday back in 1904. He was staying in nearby Pula and visited Brijuni briefly before fleeing to Trieste in the wake of spying allegations.

Joyce's spirit also lives on in the form of the Ulysses Theatre company who put on several open-air shows during the summer, a la Ricky Demarco, on neighbouring Mali Brijuni. I decide to check out their version of Shakespeare's King Lear and make the short ferry trip back to Fazana on the mainland to catch the boat for the island.

During Austro-Hungarian occupation, several fortresses were built in the area, and the one on Mali Brijuni is impressive -- a perfect backdrop for Lear's realm. Used for storing ammunition, the castle-like structure has a railway line that runs from the harbour right inside the building winding its way up through dark tunnels to the top. Here an amphitheatre with its sweeping sea views, makes a spectacular setting for the closing scenes of the play.

There was a rumour that Princess Caroline was going to attend the performance, but she doesn't show up. Maybe she was still trying to chose which part of Brijuni she might acquire for her island kingdom. For the sake of everyone who enjoys this island paradise, I hope she stays on her boat. If she did build a holiday home on Brijuni, the island would probably revert to rich and famous status again which would be a great pity. Or perhaps she had looked at the weather forecast.

That night a Bora swept the island along with lashings of rain and groaning thunder. The next morning Reverie was gone and crab beach looked quite desolate. Indeed, the boat had became so much a part of the scenery I wondered if Princess Caroline was stalking me. On the way home via Trieste, I strolled down to the harbour before dinner only to find the Reverie tied up at the wharf. If I'd known she was heading in the same direction, I would have hitched a lift. Maybe next time.

31 August 2003
 
I would not want to be on the same road as Ernst when he is driving! 211 km/h -- YIKES! Doesn't the car shake at that stage? I know mine would!
I drove 200 kmph once near Berlin. While at that time, I was noting myself to have a bit of anxiety, everything thereafter with highway travel appears to be very slow to me.

I suspect Ernst drives a Geman car that has been designed to travel 240 kmph. American cars in my experience with a few exceptions are just not built as well (un)fortunately.

Posted on Aug 27th, 2003 - 7:55 pm  ..... a reporter asked him about being married to the Princess of Monaco ... problem
Another view, is that Ernst is doing a good job of deflecting media attention away from Caroline?
 
galisteo
Posted: Aug 27th, 2003 - 7:55 pm
.... 'She is married to ME.' So, this headline probably doesn't help his low self-esteem problem...
Also,
Galisteo I've heard Princess Caroline is worth (way) more than Prince Ernst August. Something in the order of $1 Billion versus ~$100 million.
(some) Men have a real problem with that ..... you know, eons of breeding about being the provider can't be shaken off overnight. :innocent:

Haakon2
 
That's what he gets. He deserves to get his butt in trouble in some way. Maybe he wont do it again.... yeah right!
 
Is this a monthly thing with Ernst? I wish they would just take his licsence away and get it over with... that man is dangerous on the road


raven
 
So, you're allowed to go 240 kmph in Germany, and then you hit the border ..... hard to slow down.

Its just like speeders in our countries ... you take a risk. You try to get away with it, and sometimes you get caught.
 
here are more from barbizon 2003
 

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Polfoto 10-10-2003 © ABACA. 51031-7. Monaco, October 10 2003. Princess Caroline of Monaco opens the Gynecologic-Obstetric Conference at Grimaldi Forum in Monaco.
 

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Gynecology, eh? Is she the head of that organization?

Alex looks very cute and happy. :flower:
 
moosey60  Posted: Oct 13th, 2003 - 3:33 pm

Alex looks very cute and happy
And the "apple of everybody's eye", and probably has the personality to boot, of being spoiled rotten. :)
 
yeah, there's no doubt she HAS to be spoiled but she's still precious!!!
 
Well, she's the "baby" of the family...at least 12 years younger than all her siblings. She seems to have a great sense of humour.. :flower:
 
(Telegraph News) "Princess Caroline of Monaco, frequently pictured in continental tabloids, will ask the European Court of Human Rights next week to prevent people from photographing her in public. So what are princesses for?"
 
montecarlo  Posted: Oct 30th, 2003 - 9:19 am

Princess Caroline of Monaco, frequently pictured in continental tabloids, will ask the European Court of Human Rights next week to prevent people from photographing her in public.

Interesting question. What are private rights - and how far do they extend - in a public place?
 
Interesting request Caroline is taking up, one that is very much a slippery slope where public figures are concerned. In univeristy, I wrote a paper on the right to privacy by public figures for my media ethics class. My point of view then, as it is now, was that when an individual is out in public performing a public duty, he/she is fair game; take all the pictures you want. But if they are out in public, say shopping or dining with family members or friends, they are entitled to their privacy.

But in the case of royals, who are supported financially predominantly by tax payers, can they be argued that all princes and princesses everywhere are "public property?" Hence, the public has the "right" to know what they are doing whether they are attending a public function or running personal errands.

The case might be simpler to define for say celebrities. When they are attending a movie premiere or promoting their new movie or CD, etc. it is pretty much a free for all where the media is concerned in my eyes. But again, if they are having dinner with their family or friends, even if it is in a restaurant, privacy rights of the individual should take precedence. The slippery slope though regarding celebrities is that they use the press to their advantage (promoting their work) as much as the press can be a disadvantage to them (revealing an affair or private information).

Privacy is a big issue for me. As a journalist, it's my job to "dig up the dirt" so to speak on public figures; to reveal information about them that they might not want to be revealed. But as a citizen, I would hate such an infringement on my privacy.

Caroline, her children, siblings and father are very much hunted in the press. Whether it was the glamour of Grace and her tragic death that has made this family such steadfast headline-grabbers, or the individual scandals that intrigue the public, is hard to discern. (No doubt Caroline's husband Ernst garners the couple much unwanted attention with his numerous comments and public incidents and brawls.) But Caroline is certainly a tabloid seller, and if I were her I'd be pretty annoyed and ticked off too, to find photographers following my evey step. Good for her for taking a stand on this situation. Though I doubt she'll get very far with the courts, and this battle will probably just fuel more unwanted press, good for her doing something about the situation. It might not help Caroline or her older kids, but maybe it will make a difference in the life of little Alexandra's public life.
 
Alexandria  Posted: Oct 30th, 2003 - 10:50 am

Good for her for taking a stand on this situation. Though I doubt she'll get very far with the courts

I recall that Ernst August put a similar request to the German courts not too long ago. Does anybody know what the outcome there was ?
 
Originally posted by Alexandria@Oct 30th, 2003 - 10:50 am
But in the case of royals, who are supported financially predominantly by tax payers, can they be argued that all princes and princesses everywhere are "public property?"
Citizens of Monaco have traditionally never paid income taxes, so the royal family is not supported by their people. Thus, they are "not" public property. :flower:
 
So how does the royal family support themselves if the tax payers don't? Where do they get their income from for clothes and to maintain their various estates?
 
Alexandria  Posted: Oct 30th, 2003 - 9:50 pm

So how does the royal family support themselves if the tax payers don't? Where do they get their income from for clothes and to maintain their various estates?
I imagine Prince Rainier, Prince Albert and Princess Stephanie live off the earnings of the casino (seeing that the latter is owned by the RF).

Princess Caroline might receive a partial earning, and in the remainder is supported by her husband? I've read she's worth $1 billion .... probably stocks, bonds, real estate and paintings .... some of which spits out monthly dividend cheques?
 
Ernst, if you want people to treat you with respect then, behave respectively!
 

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