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Old 04-26-2019, 11:49 AM
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Actually, I think Beatrice is set to have the best of both worlds at her fingertips. She can do as much charity works as she wants to and yet still call the shots on when, where, why and how without being on a rigid schedule from the "Firm".

Once married, perhaps raising a family and doing her charity work will be fulfilling for her. She's in the position now to make her life to be any way she wants it to be.
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Actually, I think Beatrice is set to have the best of both worlds at her fingertips. She can do as much charity works as she wants to and yet still call the shots on when, where, why and how without being on a rigid schedule from the "Firm".

Once married, perhaps raising a family and doing her charity work will be fulfilling for her. She's in the position now to make her life to be any way she wants it to be.
There is nothing to stop her doing charity work, if that is what she wants to do.. but she is nto required by the RF to be on the official roster.
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Old 04-26-2019, 08:15 PM
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There is nothing to stop her doing charity work, if that is what she wants to do.. but she is nto required by the RF to be on the official roster.
That was my point. She can call the shots and do or not do whatever floats her boat without having requirements. She could marry and move to the far reaches of the earth and teach belly dancing and raise her family in a yurt if she really wanted to.

To me, it also shows that the charity work that she does do is because she wants to do it rather than it being expected of her as her role of a princess. I do think she realizes this and being a member of the "Firm" isn't something she'd be overly vocal about being excluded from.

All of this discussion on Beatrice's private affairs go to show me that *not* being a full time royal working for the "Firm" actually is in her favor. Her private life is just that. Private. Whatever decisions she makes on just about anything to do with her life are hers and hers alone.
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Old 04-27-2019, 02:11 AM
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That was my point. She can call the shots and do or not do whatever floats her boat without having requirements. She could marry and move to the far reaches of the earth and teach belly dancing and raise her family in a yurt if she really wanted to.

To me, it also shows that the charity work that she does do is because she wants to do it rather than it being expected of her as her role of a princess. I do think she realizes this and being a member of the "Firm" isn't something she'd be overly vocal about being excluded from.
I don't know. I think maybe she and Eugenie did hope to be take on as Royal wrorkers..but I think now they realise its not going to happen. ANd Boht of them do a little charity work.. I don't know if it is because they have a particular interest in certain charities or because they feel it is part of being a Princess to take on some causes. But if either of them chose to be full time devoting themselves to causes, and not taking a paid job.. that would be fine provided they don't tread on the toes of any other royal.. and Im sure they have enough money to live independently and do not need to work at a job.
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:00 AM
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It seemed to come naturally to both Beatrice and her sister. Just like accompanying Granny to the Maundy Thursday Service and helping with the flowers when they were young. Once Zara was fully involved in riding and education she turned Christmas and Easter over to them as well.

When Louise was old enough they trained her and now even James has been known to help. It is something that is handed off to the younger Royals and Beatrice and Eugenie were the first I really noticed. And how faithfully they fulfilled that task.

They have carried those early lessons into adulthood and they both undertake work for their few Patronages but mostly they work in fundraising which is hard but worthy work and they have involved themselves at a Joe Blogs level, running in sponsored marathons, etc.
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Old 04-27-2019, 09:16 AM
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Few patronages? They both until a few recent editions, had more then Kate. And the visits that they make to their patronages are very much the same thing working royals do. The only difference is that they don't get any recognition for those visits or any paid staff to help.

Yes Beatrice has taken it one step further, and should be applauded for that. Not 'well she mainly fundraises' like that's a bad thing, or lower then the cutting ribbons her cousins do. As a founder of Big Change, she actively raises money through things like marathons, triathalons, climbs and such.

Eugenie mainly does the tours. But then again she also works a full time job at an art gallery. Beatrice does work as well, though her schedule is far more flexible.

Any comment on 'few patronages' or limited work should also remember this is not their job. Unlike their cousins, being patrons is not their full time work. They both balance jobs on top of their patronages.
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Old 04-27-2019, 10:42 AM
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Both Beatrice and Eugenie are patrons of charities that personally mean a lot to them like Helen Arkell Dyslexia Society and the RNOH as well as patrons of the charities their mother set up and have founded charities of there own. I think they actually do quite a bit for non full time royals but it often doesn't get reported on at all. Half the info comes direct from Eugenie's instagram.
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:35 PM
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Yikes!!! I poked the bear. Sorry guys didn't mean to make their charity work sound "less" in some real way than that of the working royals when the exact opposite is true. Leading from the front, as they so often do, motivates other young people to get involved with fundraising and let's face it, it takes a lot of donations to raise the required amount for specialised hospital equipment, etc. So no, I love that they are prepared to get down and get their hands dirty with everyone else whether running a marathon, scaling mountains or riding bikes. Their bubbly input is invaluable.

Beatrice has shared her learning disability in a real and painful way, sharing the difficulties and celebrating the wins, showing youngsters that dyslexia and other such learning disabilities are an obstacle that doesn't have to ruin their lives. Eugenie's wedding dress was the "cherry on top" of her work with scoliosis. What a stunning and elegant wedding gown, with its dramatic and amazing back, showed every young sufferer that surgery wouldn't make them look ugly.

I think over the years I have probably been taking their work for granted because they have done it for so long compared to their cousins, William and Harry. Their happily collecting flowers for 'Granny' with brilliant smiles when they were young is a 'duty' like any other but Beatrice and Eugenie just made it part of the event.

Both have been gifted with wonderful natural smiles and that is their default expression. A smile is the ultimate icebreaker, helping them in many charities and causes and when I see the very rare photos of them doing their "second" jobs it always brings a smile to my face.
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Old 05-30-2019, 01:37 PM
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Lately we’re beginning to see more of Beatrice and Eugenie.
I know they won’t be full time royals, but i think it’s very likely that they’d be part time royals - something like Prince and Princess Michael of Kent.

I don’t know why, but as the Queen is aging, I see her giving some of her patronage’s to her York granddaughters
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Will Princess Beatrice step up and take on royal responsibilities?
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Will Princess Beatrice step up and take on royal responsibilities?
She hasn't been asked, as far as we know.
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Lately we’re beginning to see more of Beatrice and Eugenie.
I know they won’t be full time royals, but i think it’s very likely that they’d be part time royals - something like Prince and Princess Michael of Kent.

I don’t know why, but as the Queen is aging, I see her giving some of her patronage’s to her York granddaughters
Interestingly I think we are seeing less of them. They aren't doing as many things that would be associated with the family - charities etc as in the past. They usually attend about 5 - 10 official engagements a year between them and 2019 saw them do 8 (Beatrice 3 and Eugenie 5).

Eugenie is spending her time working and settling into marriage so we occasionally see some picture of her attending a restaurant with Jack or something similar but not at a 'royal' type event.

Beatrice also seems to be taking fewer 'holidays' (in other words she is going to fewer events overseas for Affiniti which the media dubs 'holidays' as well as actual holidays).

I do think we will see less and less of them, now that Andrew is no longer a working royal.

I am wondering whether the idea that not being a working royal equally no HRH as applied to Harry and Meghan will also extend to Andrew, Beatrice, Eugenie and the Michael's of Kent. If it does then Lady Beatrice and Lady Eugenie will be able to slip under the radar even more.
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Old 01-20-2020, 07:28 PM
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I agree. We have seen less of them, and that may be the natural order of things. Eugenie is married. Bea is engaged and charting a new path for her life.
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Would others agree that Beatrice, Eugenie, Harry, Meghan, and Prince and Princess Michael are all now in exactly the same situation when it comes to their official status in the BRF?
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Would others agree that Beatrice, Eugenie, Harry, Meghan, and Prince and Princess Michael are all now in exactly the same situation when it comes to their official status in the BRF?
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Interestingly I think we are seeing less of them. They aren't doing as many things that would be associated with the family - charities etc as in the past. They usually attend about 5 - 10 official engagements a year between them and 2019 saw them do 8 (Beatrice 3 and Eugenie 5).

Eugenie is spending her time working and settling into marriage so we occasionally see some picture of her attending a restaurant with Jack or something similar but not at a 'royal' type event.

Beatrice also seems to be taking fewer 'holidays' (in other words she is going to fewer events overseas for Affiniti which the media dubs 'holidays' as well as actual holidays).

I do think we will see less and less of them, now that Andrew is no longer a working royal.

I am wondering whether the idea that not being a working royal equally no HRH as applied to Harry and Meghan will also extend to Andrew, Beatrice, Eugenie and the Michael's of Kent. If it does then Lady Beatrice and Lady Eugenie will be able to slip under the radar even more.
Beatrice and Eugenia last year inbounded have continued to do a great deal if charity work. The only time it's gets Royal nod us when Andrew is involved or something like Ascot. With Andrew out of the picture that lowers its

Harry and Meghan are still HRH Duke and duchess, they simply can't use it in their business life. Well the HRH and for Harry the prince. In no way have they been demoted to lord/lady. No reason to think that Beatrice and Eugenie would be demoted to lady. Or Princess Michael, her and her husband have been private citizens from the start.

Beatrice still travels for work and pleasure quite a bit. The difference is there is no interest so the papers don't publish. All the focus is on Hary drama. The York girls can thank him for that as their fathet scandal woukd likely draw them into the press more and more.

Beatrice travels plenty. Only makes news when there is some way to spin it as a holiday. Eugenie as well for her gallery.

Other then the heir and heirs heir, royals only make the news when there is a dramatic spin to be had. Beatrice and Eugenie are becoming the boring married royals. Just like the wessexes and Anne, even when they do charity and if they pick up Royal work, likely will get little notice.
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Robert Lacey seems to think Beatrice and Eugenie are the natural successors to Harry and Meghan.....but, this seems pure speculation (logical, because help is needed). Would they want to step up? I imagine so - and I don't think people would hold their father's actions against them.

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“It’s quite clear that one of the consequences is that Beatrice and Eugenie will now be brought forward — if they’re willing to be brought forward,” said Lacey.

“If two go out, two have got to come in, and those two have got to be Beatrice and Eugenie. I’m sure they will step forward and be greatly welcomed. It’s what the family needs as it’s another 15 years before Prince George’s generation steps up. It’s ironic that Harry mentioned his cousins as models of how he wants to be.”
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Robert Lacey seems to think Beatrice and Eugenie are the natural successors to Harry and Meghan.....but, this seems pure speculation (logical, because help is needed). Would they want to step up? I imagine so - and I don't think people would hold their father's actions against them.



https://foxwilmington.com/headlines/...expert-claims/
I do not think BEatrice & Eugenie will be brought forward. Instead, IMO, Edward and Sophie will start to do higher profile engagements.
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I doubt they'll go "on the payroll" as working royals. All polls have shown for years that the British public want a smaller working group based on the core family so it would be madness to add two of the Queen's grandchildren. That's without getting into the risk of their mother exploiting every opportunity to expand her own profile. (I retyped that last sentence a few times to keep it polite - the British public won't be as restrained).
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