Into the memorial Chapel with her parents, Margaret and Philip.
State Funeral of HM Queen Elizabeth II: 19 September 2022
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Into the memorial Chapel with her parents, Margaret and Philip.
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So that there could be something private for the family. There's a difference between committing someone for burial and then actually burying them. One is still ceremonial and the other is personal.
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The public service at St George's, which ended with the committal was followed by a 'burial' down into the vault under the main chapel, same as Prince Philip. The subsequent private ceremony is to bury HMQ and Philip together under the small George VI chapel along with her parents, who are there with Princess Margaret's ashes. There wasn't room for Margaret's coffin so she asked to be cremated so she could be with her family.
Yes I agree it's a pity but I presume the naval party in 1952 travelled on the train carrying the late king to Windsor.
And the distance travelled by the late queen along the Long Walk was much further than her father in 52. I'm sure his cortege entered close to the very start of the Long Walk just as it ascends the slope to the castle.
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For many Kings that is their final resting place. The Queen herself brought her father up from there something like 15 years after he died.
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I hadn't realized the orb and scepter were basically screwed onto the coffin until they were removed and placed on the altar. A good way to keep them from falling off and breaking! Is that always how it's been done or did past bearer parties just have to be really, really careful? LOL
Good question!
The cross on the Imperial State Crown fell off during the lying in state of George v in 1936. The new King Edward viii said something along the lines of "C****t what's going to ****** happen next" or somesuch. I don't know the exact quote. But he wasn't happy!
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The cross on the Imperial State Crown fell off during the lying in state of George v in 1936. The new King Edward viii said something along the lines of "C****t what's going to ****** happen next" or somesuch. I don't know the exact quote. But he wasn't happy!
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I saw an estimate of 5.1 billion. Whatever the number, it is astonishing.
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What a ridiculous statement. They needed 8 people from one regiment of similar height, that narrows it down. If they were discriminating in any way it was against those not of the same height so feel free to moan about that.
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Even more ridiculous since it wasn’t even true
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-09-15...jian-pallbearers-proud-family-watch-from-afar
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Here is the ceremonial for King George VI's funeral (and his lying in state) 70 years ago, if anyone is interested in a comparison:
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/39575/supplement/3345
The ceremonial for Queen Elizabeth II's state funeral:
https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/files/media/state_funeral_of_her_majesty_queen_elizabeth.pdf
They were likely referring to the private burial service in the evening. Here is a quick summary of the various events of the day:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60617519
The presence of foreign royal families was mentioned in the order of service for the public committal service (attended by approximately 800):
https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/...sty_queen_elizabeth_ii_-_order_of_service.pdf
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/39575/supplement/3345
The ceremonial for Queen Elizabeth II's state funeral:
https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/files/media/state_funeral_of_her_majesty_queen_elizabeth.pdf
They were likely referring to the private burial service in the evening. Here is a quick summary of the various events of the day:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60617519
The presence of foreign royal families was mentioned in the order of service for the public committal service (attended by approximately 800):
https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/...sty_queen_elizabeth_ii_-_order_of_service.pdf
I was about to say. There have been soldiers of colour carrying her coffin at several points over the last 10 days. There were also clearly people of colour in the procession right beside the carriage and hearse today if we're counting. Not to mention Shemara Fletcher leading prayers and Baroness Scotland reading a lesson. And representatives of almost every faith in the UK present. It seems like they did take the opportunity to be inclusive and certainly will again for the coronation.
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They are both parts of the same service. The committal is the prayers etc before the body is lowered into the grave, which is the burial.
That made me laugh so much. I did keep thinking today about her falling off the gun carriage and the tongue and cheek joke about how it would have been easier to roll her up and down the queue every few hours then have the line be what it was.
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I watched the whole thing from 8am today, and I only teared up when HM’s coffin was lowered. But this evening as I’ve gone about my daily routine the thought of “the four of us” being together again, and her strength and stay being by her side caught me off guard. I was in tears at the thought that this is it, The Queen was the last of them and the era is over. I cannot get past this feeling of utter sadness.
Astonishing. We will never see her like again. I think we all know this has ended an era and the royal family two are not going to inspire what she did and will have to recalibrate. And reset who they are.
Yes, there was at least one person of color acting as pallbearer in Edinburgh, but not in London. It’s hard to believe a suitable bearer could not have been found. Racial healing occurs in various fashions, and representation at important events is one of them.
Missed opportunity.
I was fine until St George’s . Even down the long walk I was a bit: would you hurry up. Cried whole way through St George’s and now very very sad. What do we do now…what next. She has left a gaping hole in the psychology of the nation because even if you weren’t in support of the royal family and everyone was a Queenist. I know public opinion is huge for them now but that’s the backwash of affection for the Queen. They are heading into choppy waters now.
Sign of our 1 click times! Although that has made me laugh as well. I admit that whilst I realised everything was screwed on that I was nervous about the Orb rolling off on several occasions. And as I said up thread, the instruments of state being returned to the high altar and the Lord Chamberlain breaking his staff were the parts that got to me today. Even though all of it was emotional and well done.
Whatever the number of viewers was it seems to be over half the globe saw some of it which is incredible.
Camillas sister (and probably family, too) was seated next to Thomas Hooper, Lady Alexandra Hooper and The Countess Mountbatten of Burma (Penny) on the left side just before the Choir-Section ended and the part with the Royals and BRF started. Maybe someone can explain it better. They sat rather in the corner.
Ah thanks. And here is a photo of the Middletons sat next to Cam’s family and the Duke and Duchess of Fife. (Descended from Elizabeth’s grandfather George V’s sister Louise)
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/...on-at-the-state-funeral-news-photo/1243351118
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Was Lady Saltoun there?
Camillas sister (and probably family, too) was seated next to Thomas Hooper, Lady Alexandra Hooper and The Countess Mountbatten of Burma (Penny) on the left side just before the Choir-Section ended and the part with the Royals and BRF started. Maybe someone can explain it better. They sat rather in the corner.
Ah thanks. Here is a photo of the Middletons next to Camilla’s family and the Duke and Duchess of Fife, descended from Elizabeth’s grandfather George V’s sister Louise.
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Scratching my head trying to think of a naughty word, “C****t”.
Christ.
Some people might take offence & see it as taking the Lord's name in vain. It's a common expression of frustration in Britain.
Maybe next time we should have the Gurkhas do it!
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They were all in the parade
I agree about the sadness. If we feel this way heaven knows how her family must feel.
I heard this somewhere earlier today, it's quite well known of course but very fitting:
And, though God hath raised me high, yet this I count the glory of my Crown, that I have reigned with your loves.
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Inclusiveness for the sake of inclusiveness is offensive too. People of color know when they're being used as tokens or political props or to make a statement, and they abhor it just as much as anyone else would. There weren't any Black guards in the bearer party because there weren't any to be had, not because there were, and they were passed over in favor of white guards.
Trying to make this racial when it isn't is really beyond the pall. Yes, the British Empire, such as it is today, has a lot of amends to make for its role in colonialization, but the way to go about doing that is not shoehorning a political statement into someone's funeral.
Trying to make this racial when it isn't is really beyond the pall. Yes, the British Empire, such as it is today, has a lot of amends to make for its role in colonialization, but the way to go about doing that is not shoehorning a political statement into someone's funeral.
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