General News & Information about Haakon,Mette-Marit & Family 1: July 2014 - June 2020


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Last week, the CP Family has been seen together outside in a boat.
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"Crown family followed its journey along with hundreds

Crown Prince Haakon and Crown Princess Mette-Marit had also made the trip out with the boat, along with the children and Mette-Marit's mother, Marit Tjessem. They seemed to enjoy themselves out in the skjærgården. When the sailing ships left town ..."

Unfortunately I cannot read more of the article, as you have to log in / be a member (?).
Kronprinsfamilien fulgte utseilingen sammen med hundrevis - fvn.no

The article is dated from July 28th, 2015.
 
If I understand it right, CP Haakon and CP Mette-Marit were at a concert of the Norwegian band Touchdown in the Angst Bar in Oslo yesterday.

https://twitter.com/stiansicky/status/632714845520068608
"You know the mood is real when the crown prince and Mette-Marit comes at Touchdown!"

https://instagram.com/p/6cGUoquFoA/
"And somewhere in there are the Crown Prince and Crown Princess and dance. On Anxiety. The little tavern on Strøget with light chains from Clas Olsen and plastic flowers from Nille. Great. Gedi Gent. Worthy end to an insane delicious week, thank you for your visit well people."
 
thanks fairy tale for the news. They love music.
 
 
The Dutch media write about -again- strong criticism on the Crown Prince and his spouse. No idea how serious this is. A translation:

OSLO - The Norwegian crown princely couple is under fire because of their family vacation on the luxury yacht 'Mia Elise', earlier this month. This ship can be rented for 250.000 Euros a week. It has become clear that Crown Prince Haakon and -Princess Mette-Marit did not pay themselves, but Mr Sveinung Rotevatn, member of Parliament for Venstre (Liberals) wants to know who paid for their trip then.

So far the Norwegian Court has refused to comment and turned away all questions: a vacation is private and what the crown princely couple does with their money is nobody's business. Mr Rotevatn however finds that disclosure must be given about the sponsor of this cruise on the Mediterranean as there may very well be something expected from the future King, in return. Mr Rotevatn gets support from Mr Bjørnar Moxnes, leader of Rødt (Socialists).

During the trip the crown princely family was photographed by paparazzi but only now this has lead to commotion in Norway. In a strong-worded commentary in the newspaper Dagbladet the crown princely couple was grilled. Most people learn from their mistakes and do not make these again, according to the newspaper, if not Haakon and Mette-Marit who have previously been criticized for their -in Norwegian eyes- extravagant and luxurious lifestyle.

There was fuss about expensive clothes worn by Crown Princess Mette-Marit, which often were loaned or donated by famous fashion houses. "The luxury life creates distance with the people and that does no good to the monarchy," stated the newspaper, which also calls for transparency. The Norwegian customs and values want that the royal family should behave like everyone else, and expensive cars, fast boats or lavish vacations do not fit in that.

That Crown Prince Haakon's grandfather King Olav occasionally took the streetcar (tram) - which would be impossible now, for security reasons alone - is etched in the collective memory. Sailing with a yacht on the Mediterranean does not fit into that picture.

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Note: Norway is one of the richest countries in the world... :whistling:
 
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^^^^^^^ I don't know the situation so can't comment on the content, but that's a really unflattering picture that the editors of the article (see the link posted) have chosen to use...
If magazines use pictures like these I always have a feeling that the writer/editor are trying to persuade the reader into a specific direction before even reading the article itself, I'm a bit allergic to that
(but that's just me, as said, I don't know the norwegian royal family well enough to comment on the content)
 
MARG said:
:previous: Why MM only?
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I think it is the mechanism for which I always warned when "commoners" marry in a royal family: "Girl, you are no Princess, you pretend to be a Princess". It is the mechanism that people of the own social group, who climb and stand out from the crowd, face extra critical scrutiny as a result.

When Crown Prince Haakon would have married Donna Beatrice Borromeo, to name someone, then the expensive lifestyle would be selbstverständlich: "What do you expect? It is a Borromeo...". It is just a mindset, a framework. We can see the same mechanism in British media, with Catherine Middleton facing a critical attitude as well. "Look at them, those upstarts" while the daughter from the Earl Spencer would have another framing. I hope I have expressed it well enough, it is difficult to explain.
 
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Duc_et_Pair said:
I think it is the mechanism for which I always warned when "commoners" marry in a royal family: "Girl, you are no Princess, you pretend to be a Princess". It is the mechanism that people of the own social group, who climb and stand out from the crowd, face extra critical scrutiny as a result.

When Crown Prince Haakon would have married Donna Beatrice Borromeo, to name someone, then the expensive lifestyle would be selbstverständlich: "What do you expect? It is a Borromeo...". It is just a mindset, a framework. We can see the same mechanism in British media, with Catherine Middleton facing a critical attitude as well. "Look at them, those upstarts" while the daughter from the Earl Spencer would have another framing. I hope I have expressed it well enough, it is difficult to explain.
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Never leaving out the opportunity to promote your very own specific ideas of that "unequal" marriage thing!:ROFLMAO:
I do not believe one second that the norwegian people would be more tolerant when a Beatrice Borromeo as a norwegian Crown Princess would lead a luxurious jet set life only because she´s some obscure italian comtessa or something.
And I haven´ t heard, read or seen anything like "Those upstarts" in relation to the Duchess of Cambridge! Never! These are your very own projections and have nothing to do with reality.
Yes, you did express it well enough! We know only too well what your 19th century ideals are!
 
I am not promoting anything at all. I am only assessing the question "Why is the press so on Mette-Marit?" with a very regular social phenomenon which happens in all layers of society and every day.

A colleague who has always worked with fellow workers on a floor and is suddenly promoted to be a manager, will face more scrutiny from his former fellow colleagues than wider in the organization. "Who are you to think you are more than us?"

A woman from a normal neighbourhood suddenly marrying "well" and then visiting her family back in her original neighbourhood, but now with a Mercedes and telling about her second home in the Provence, will face the same critical attitude. "Look at her, Madame, puh! She must not think she can stick her nose in the air!"

So my assessment why Mette-Marit, wearing couture and sailing on expensive yachts, faces a remarkable critical attitude from her fellow Norwegians is directly connected with the phenomenon I described above. But anyone with another guess is as good as it is. After all this forum is free for different viewpoints on a situation.
 
We went through this with Sweden just last month. It makes not an iota of difference with 21c constitutional monarchies if you're royal born, noble born or a car mechanic. If you screw up the press will call you on it.

Do we really think if Haakon married Beatrice Borromeo the Norwegian press would just shrug its shoulders and say so what she's a Borromeo what do you expect?

If the Norwegian press is anything like the British press it wouldn't. Princess Beatrice jets all over the world and she is crucified for it in the press.

No free pass just because you have 'of York' after your name.
 
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Kronprinsesse Mette-Marit i trafikkuhell

Translated by me. I hope all of you understand it.

Crown Princess Mette-Marit in traffic accident

Crown Princess Mette-Marit has been hit in the car and had to drop a reception at the UN women's organization on Tuesday.

The incident occurred on Tuesday morning.

- She was hit in the car. It was a minor traffic accident and completely undramatic, says communications manager at the Royal Palace, Marianne Hagen.

- Because she previously have had problems with her neck, she chose to take it easy yesterday. Today has progressed as planned, she said Wednesday afternoon.

Crown Prince Haakon attended the event on Tuesday night instead of his wife.

The Crown Princess was operated for neck problems in 2013. Then she had struggled with the problems since 2008 when she fell during a visit to Ukraine.
 
:previous: Oh dear, I hope MM is alright. I remember when she had problems with her back (I think she took quite a long break from royal duties?) so I hope it's not injured or in pain.
 
HereditaryPrincess said:
:previous: Oh dear, I hope MM is alright. I remember when she had problems with her back (I think she took quite a long break from royal duties?) so I hope it's not injured or in pain.
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I hope so too, but I admit when it was announced earlier this year she decided not to camp overnight w/the rest of the Family during their annual camping weekend due to neck pain, alarm bells started going off. Seeing the runners instead of flat shoes like Victoria wore for the more Formal part of the Climate event also had me wondering. Those shoes would have more of a grip on that cobblestone street after all.

I really do hope The Crown Princess' neck problems haven't come back. Dealing w/Chronic Pain day in and out is something I wouldn't wish on anyone, as it is not fun believe me, but for it to be in the neck...I just can't imagine.


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Duc_et_Pair said:
I think it is the mechanism for which I always warned when "commoners" marry in a royal family: "Girl, you are no Princess, you pretend to be a Princess". It is the mechanism that people of the own social group, who climb and stand out from the crowd, face extra critical scrutiny as a result.

When Crown Prince Haakon would have married Donna Beatrice Borromeo, to name someone, then the expensive lifestyle would be selbstverständlich: "What do you expect? It is a Borromeo...". It is just a mindset, a framework. We can see the same mechanism in British media, with Catherine Middleton facing a critical attitude as well. "Look at them, those upstarts" while the daughter from the Earl Spencer would have another framing. I hope I have expressed it well enough, it is difficult to explain.
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Duc et Pair then why does the media criticize Princess Beatrice? Why does the media criticize Princess Madeline? The negativity and complaints around these two is so extreme. Why doesn't your little theory apply to them if they are not commoners. I have never seen anyone say "what do you expect? They are princesses..." instead they get criticized for working very little and bringing bad publicity to their royal houses.
 
I think Duc et Pair makes an interesting point.The comparison with Catherine Middleton I feel is especially valid.The british press has been very nasty to her family in the past and much of it extremely petty and sounding like the dressing down you get for " reaching above their station". Her family have wealth but not rank. I think his example with Beatrice was just trying to say that perhaps it would have been a way of life she was used to and not aspiring to.We don't hear the press chastising Caroline for her clothes and way of life but they do express comment when Mette or Catherine ( think Mustique) enjoy parts of the lfiestyle. Remember these are just things I have noted they are not hard fact.
 
Princess Pris said:
Duc et Pair then why does the media criticize Princess Beatrice? Why does the media criticize Princess Madeline? The negativity and complaints around these two is so extreme. Why doesn't your little theory apply to them if they are not commoners. I have never seen anyone say "what do you expect? They are princesses..." instead they get criticized for working very little and bringing bad publicity to their royal houses.
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I think you are correct. The commoner theory only adds a little fuel to the fire. If they are perceived to work very little and not seem to take their duty seriously, and seem to only take the Perks, good without the bad, they are in trouble. Also, national culture has something to do with it, lifestyle in Monaco vs Norway is quite different
 
Carl XVI and Queen Silvia = success story. Very much respected. The Queen was, back in the 1970s, the only hope of the then troubled swedish monarchy. She always was one of the most respected persons of the royal family
Harald V and Queen Sonja = success story.
Willem Alex. and Queen Máxima/ Netherlands= Highly successful, loved and respected royal couple.
Ragnhild of Norway and Erling Lorentzen = marriage lastet for 60 years until the Princesses death
Astrid of Norway and Martin Ferner = successful marriage for more than 5 decades by now. Very much respected.
Christina of Sweden and Tord Magnusson = successful marriage for 40 years by now.
Leopold and Uschi of Bavaria = long lasting, successful marriage.
Pavlos and Marie-Chantal of Greece = firm and longlasting, loving marriage for 20 years by now.
Frederik and Mary of Denmark= highly respected and loved, very successful partnership.
Richard of Gloucester and his danish born duchess = long lasting, successful marriage; both calm, dutiful and dignified.
And so on...

Prince Bernard of the Netherlands= highly controversial, many scandals.
Margaret of Great Britain = controversial and scandalous life
Philip of Gr. Britain, Pr. of Greece = controversial, scandalous in early life (affairs), marriage only lasted by the "tolerance in abundance" of his wife.
Charles and Diana of Wales = sigh....
Juan Carlos of Spain = similar like Prince Philip; highly controversial figure in later life.
Carl Gustaf of Sweden = Well, no words needed...
Henrik of Denmark (born Count) = not very respected (rather accepted) in Denmark after half a century in that country.
Albert and Paola of Belgium = highly troubled marriage, affairs, in earlier life

...and so on and so on... All of them had very bad press! Of course there are also successful, long lasting marriages of couples which consist of both royal partners and born royal people who created no scandals, acted dutiful and dignified all their lifetime! But the reason for this is not their royal birth, but personality and good role models they experienced as children - exactly the same as commoners who grew up in a loving environment and a good education.
When I look at my list I wonder if many (commoner born) royals act more in a classic royal way than those born to it.
 
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Kronprinsparet får klimakjeft | ABC Nyheter

This is translated by me, because these google translations are so poor.

Haakon and Mette-Marit is being criticized again.

A few hours sailing with the luxury yacht the Crown Prince family used this summer, is equivalent to the greenhouse gas emissions to a passenger car during one year. The organization Future in Our Hands is reacting.

According to Dagbladet, everything suggests that the Crown Prince and Crown Princess were on board for five days, from the yacht traveled from Positano on the Amalfi Coast on August 2 to the docked Corsica outside France on 7 August.

Calculations that has been conducted by engineer Jo Alexander Gjerpe on behalf of the newspaper shows that five days aboard is equivalent to greenhouse gas emissions to between 4.8 and 6.5 households within a year.

Both the Crown Prince and the Crown Princess has been strongly committed to environmental issues and has also encouraged people to use less water and to reduce power consumption.

- It provides an aftertaste when the Crown Prince couple chooses to take an vacation aboard a boat that gives soaring greenhouse gas emissions, while they have a strong commitment to climate and often emphasizes that individuals have a responsibility to preserve the environment, says manager Arild Hermstad in The future in our hands.

The palace has not wanted to comment on the matter to Dagbladet.

Earlier this week Mette-Marit refused to answer questions about luxury holidays when she was attending kindergarten conference:

I hope it was readable.


I see that some previous posts in this thread says that there has been strong criticism of Haakon and Mette-Marit, but this is incorrect. It's just the newspaper Dagbladet (which is known for and write the most ridiculous things) who is being their usual noisy self.

It's not even Haakon and Mette-Marit who paid for it.

Both Harald, Sonja, Haakon and Mette-Marit also uses the royal yacht (who is operated by the Navy on taxpayers money) to holidays, and there is no one who cares about that, not even Dagbladet.
 
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Princess Pris said:
Duc et Pair then why does the media criticize Princess Beatrice? Why does the media criticize Princess Madeline? The negativity and complaints around these two is so extreme. Why doesn't your little theory apply to them if they are not commoners. I have never seen anyone say "what do you expect? They are princesses..." instead they get criticized for working very little and bringing bad publicity to their royal houses.
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Just a little comment but I think the media and the public in general judge harshly royals like Princesses Beatrice, Madeleine and CP MM whose life and work balance are, well, not balanced. The public has to feel like someone deserves what they have, otherwise there will be jealousy. People are much more forgiving and tolerant on those who seem to work hard--Princess Mary for instance, wears a lot of couture but since she is known to be a hardworking royal, it's all money well spent.

I don't know where I heard it first but someone once said, in relation to one's image at the office, that working hard is less important than appearing to work hard. :D
 
Kronprinsen om luksusferie: - Besøkte en venn - NRK Kultur og underholdning - Nyheter og aktuelt stoff

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''- I've seen that there has been great interest in this. For us it was an invitation from a friend of ours. We were visiting for a few days. There has been much speculation about it.

- I do not think he has any special interests in Norway at all. We were visiting one of the owners of the boat. I don't think he owes us something, or that we owe him something, said the crown prince told reporters.''

And now the press is looking for who this friend is.
 
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:previous: Thanks for the photos. :flowers: I am adding this party to the list of royal events I'd like to have been a fly on the wall on - seeing Estelle interact with Haakon and MM's children would be sweet.

I had no idea Guillaume and Stephanie were friends with Haakon and MM, though they must be quite close.
 
:previous:It's a surprise to me as well, mostly because there is a bit of a gap in the ages of the two couples and they seem to have different interests.

But Guillaume and the NRF have been close since before his wedding to Stephanie. Remember that he seriously dated a niece of Queen Sonja. He seems particularly close to Mette-Marit.
 
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