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Old 01-20-2020, 11:48 AM
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Piers Morgan in this piece reflects the current opinion of [I suspect] many millions of Brits -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ars-Harry.html
Iím no Piers Morgan fan, but I do have to agree that his speech came off as whiny and full of alligator tears,, and placed all the blame on the media and the royal family forcing them out.

This whole ďwe had no other optionĒ story has become almost farcical. I think what it comes down to is that they were both unhappy with their roles to some degree, and I think Meghan didnít like living in the UK. They wanted to be royals without all the constraints placed on royalty, and they wanted to do it from outside the UK. What they quickly learned is you canít pick and choose what kind of royalty you want to be in this family. Itís either all or nothing. They could have accepted that and moved on, but they didnít, and what it came down to was that they got nothing.
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Old 01-20-2020, 11:56 AM
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the same strength of bitterness.
At the Charity l volunteer with, [amongst Brits of African/Commonwealth and Native origin] I heard precisely this level of bitterness articulated this very Morning..There is a feeling of a 'Back being turned'..on us, and on the Queen.
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Old 01-20-2020, 11:57 AM
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I too agree with Piers in this one analysis. He nailed. Harry always playing a victim, little boy who lost his mother.

Itís shameful.
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:02 PM
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Piers Morgan is a deeply amoral hack.
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:13 PM
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I was dismissive of the media being a valid reason for Harry and Meghan not being able to live in Britain until I saw these most recent examples of cruel publishings by Morgan.
I can now understand how the constant nasty words would wear a person down. It is bullying at it's worst. How to counter such, I don't know?
I think only a slim minority of any society could stoop to attack a person so viciously.
Harry was always invested in his charity work so he is going to feel genuine sadness. If they are past being able to cope with the nasty press, how could they remain in Britain? Not everyone can block out to the same degree. Everyone's best is not equal.
However, I worry that the negative comments will not cease. What are the laws in Canada about publishing reports about a person's character etc.? Are the press bound to be less abusive and less intrusive?
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:15 PM
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Piers Morgan in this piece reflects the current opinion of [I suspect] many millions of Brits -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ars-Harry.html
And I suspect many millions of other Brits completely disagree with him (to put it mildly & in polite language).

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At the Charity l volunteer with, [amongst Brits of African/Commonwealth and Native origin] I heard precisely this level of bitterness articulated this very Morning..There is a feeling of a 'Back being turned'..on us, and on the Queen.
If we're being anecdotal, I belong to a nationwide group on social media & the recent comments are overwhelmingly supportive of Harry & scathing about the press - Piers Morgan's name was mentioned most in critical language of the highest order. Some people are saying critical things about Harry but not the majority.
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:28 PM
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Piers Morgan in this piece reflects the current opinion of [I suspect] many millions of Brits -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ars-Harry.html
I agree totally, there is even some more in the speech, Morgan did not mention.
Harry had better been quiet, but his speech follows the same structure as before,
him a victim and his mother's death to be exploited for anything going wrong in his life. Sad but this was his choice and hopefully he finds what he needs.
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:29 PM
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She will be in a very different position now that she and Harry need to eanr their own living...
Yes I know, but I still don't understand why that's all on her and why she would "do anything for fame and money". So far I haven't seen anything that supports that view.
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:33 PM
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I think it not be just Btits who have a say in this but those in Commonwealth countries and frankly they have looked for a way out and now they have so go ... IMO the speech was embarrassing the Disney pimping was disgusting I think Piers Morgan has written blunt but real account of what hs happened here
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:42 PM
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Buy what if. Just what if. It is all true. All parts but none as extreme. Yes the media. Yes wanting it their own way. Because the way I see it. It all happened but the nearest thing to actual truth lies in the nuance and the dynamics which have formed between invested parties.
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:44 PM
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Piers Morgan in this piece reflects the current opinion of [I suspect] many millions of Brits -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ars-Harry.html
Honestly, I agree with everything he said. Last night, I was moved to near tears when I read Harry’s statement, but:

He did blame the media
He is walking away
He’s not committed to a life of service

I believe one poster here had also taken him to take for referencing his mum (which he does a lot)....and thinking about that now, it’s interesting that he said “Diana’s second son”, not “Diana and Charles’ second son”. Now of course his mum was and still is far more popular than his “pa”, so Harry knows how to work a room
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:52 PM
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I agree totally, there is even some more in the speech, Morgan did not mention.
Harry had better been quiet, but his speech follows the same structure as before,
him a victim and his mother's death to be exploited for anything going wrong in his life. Sad but this was his choice and hopefully he finds what he needs.
I doubt that because I think he really doesn't know what he wants. He wants some hard to define sense of ultimate happiness which everyone else is supposed to deliver for him .
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:53 PM
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It's quite easy to agree on principle with Morgan. He ain't stupid. But his manner and the extremity of it is offensive at times.
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:58 PM
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Honestly, I agree with everything he said. Last night, I was moved to near tears when I read Harry’s statement, but:

He did blame the media
He is walking away
He’s not committed to a life of service

I believe one poster here had also taken him to take for referencing his mum (which he does a lot)....and thinking about that now, it’s interesting that he said “Diana’s second son”, not “Diana and Charles’ second son”. Now of course his mum was and still is far more popular than his “pa”, so Harry knows how to work a room
Did you listen to the whole thing...the part where he talks about being committed to service? It may not be the service others want to see but you can still do other service oriented things privately.


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Old 01-20-2020, 01:00 PM
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Yes I know, but I still don't understand why that's all on her and why she would "do anything for fame and money". So far I haven't seen anything that supports that view.
Harry has never had to worry about money before. he is used to having enough, having financial support from his father... and so on. He hasn't a clue, IMO how to earn a living or do business. The fact that the idea of their earning an income has come up, is down to Meghan. She does know how to earn money and set up a business and schmooze. So she will probably be the leader in their efforts to make a professional income...
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Old 01-20-2020, 01:02 PM
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Did you listen to the whole thing...the part where he talks about being committed to service? It may not be the service others want to see but you can still do other service oriented things privately.


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I read the whole thing. Youíre right, he can still serve ....we shall see how much of that he does.
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Old 01-20-2020, 01:04 PM
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I read the whole thing. Youíre right, he can still serve ....we shall see how much of that he does.
He will be based abroad, he will be busy with trying to make this professional income they talk about.. and he wont be in the UK that much to serve.
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Old 01-20-2020, 01:09 PM
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Piers Morgan in this piece reflects the current opinion of [I suspect] many millions of Brits -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ars-Harry.html
I am not a fan of his but he has certainly nailed it these two. The speech was disingenuous considering the reality of their actions. They have no one to blame but themselves and their unrealistic expectations. Obviously, they still don't get it.
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Old 01-20-2020, 01:10 PM
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It says a lot that this is *still* the headlines of all the main TV news programmes and the papers, but it can't stay that way for ever. Admittedly I think everyone is sick and tired of politicians and quite glad to be talking about someone else, but surely the talk'll start dying down once Harry leaves for Canada.
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Old 01-20-2020, 01:12 PM
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Piers Morgan in this piece reflects the current opinion of [I suspect] many millions of Brits -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ars-Harry.html

Like him or not, he nailed it
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