The Duchess of Sussex's Charities and Patronages

[Pranter]

Originally Posted by QueenMathilde

Well I read it in the Guardian and the Times of London. I don't associate them with "unsubstantiated gossip".

Depends on what their source is. Sometimes these guys all report the story using the same source. IF the source is the DM or Sun etc...well.


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[Gawin]

Originally Posted by QueenMathilde

Well I read it in the Guardian and the Times of London. I don't associate them with "unsubstantiated gossip".

These are the only articles published by The Guardian or The Times on this topic. None state that "Meghan was no longer on the National Theater patronage."

The Guardian, February 19, 2020
“He [Rufus Norris, the director of the National Theatre] also denied reports of a rift between the theatre and its patron Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, saying there was “ongoing, very productive dialogue with the duchess and her team”.”
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2020/feb/19/national-theatre-boss-denies-being-part-of-left-of-centre-elite


The Times, January 11, 2020
“A spokesman for the National Theatre confirmed that the duchess would remain as patron and that the theatre was “very much looking forward to continuing our work with her”.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/anxious-charities-wait-to-be-told-if-support-will-continue-jjskxrzc9

The Times, February 19, 2020
“Last night it was reported that the duchess had promised the National Theatre that her work as patron would be “business as usual”. Rufus Norris, its artistic director, told The Daily Telegraph that the duchess and the theatre were exploring projects to use her “star reach”. “From our perspective, I don’t think it’s going to change anything,” he said.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/queen-orders-harry-and-meghan-to-stop-using-sussex-royal-brand-v9wz5vzs9

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

Harry and Meghan have no official standing in Canada. I suppose then that, if they get involved with any Canadian charity, it will be in a private capacity only.

But Meghan was seen visiting 2 charities a few weeks ago...

[BaiSoSo]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

Harry and Meghan have no official standing in Canada. I suppose then that, if they get involved with any Canadian charity, it will be in a private capacity only.

I'm not sure what the argument/discussion is...as of April 1, 2020 all of their involvement with ANY charities will be done in a private capacity.

[QueenMathilde]

Originally Posted by Gawin

These are the only articles published by The Guardian or The Times on this topic. None state that "Meghan was no longer on the National Theater patronage."

The Guardian, February 19, 2020
“He [Rufus Norris, the director of the National Theatre] also denied reports of a rift between the theatre and its patron Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, saying there was “ongoing, very productive dialogue with the duchess and her team”.”
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2020/feb/19/national-theatre-boss-denies-being-part-of-left-of-centre-elite


The Times, January 11, 2020
“A spokesman for the National Theatre confirmed that the duchess would remain as patron and that the theatre was “very much looking forward to continuing our work with her”.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/anxious-charities-wait-to-be-told-if-support-will-continue-jjskxrzc9

The Times, February 19, 2020
“Last night it was reported that the duchess had promised the National Theatre that her work as patron would be “business as usual”. Rufus Norris, its artistic director, told The Daily Telegraph that the duchess and the theatre were exploring projects to use her “star reach”. “From our perspective, I don’t think it’s going to change anything,” he said.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/queen-orders-harry-and-meghan-to-stop-using-sussex-royal-brand-v9wz5vzs9

Nope. I read it in both. Also USA Today and some Canadian paper. But we'll see if it's true or not.

[Gawin]

Originally Posted by QueenMathilde

Nope. I read it in both. Also USA Today and some Canadian paper. But we'll see if it's true or not.

Please post the links from The Guardian and The Times. Thank you.

[Jacknch]

Please note that posts attacking other members and subsequent responses have been deleted. Now let's move on please.

[ACO]

Originally Posted by QueenMathilde

Nope. I read it in both. Also USA Today and some Canadian paper. But we'll see if it's true or not.

What is suppose to be true or not? The actual director of the National Theater had an interview and said Meghan is their patron and the rumors circulated were not true. Can’t get more direct and factual than that.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by ACO

What is suppose to be true or not? The actual director of the National Theater had an interview and said Meghan is their patron and the rumors circulated were not true. Can’t get more direct and factual than that.

I thought that there was a story that someone in the NT had said that she was tehir patron but that she would have to "prove herself"..

[_Heather_]

Originally Posted by Denville

I thought that there was a story that someone in the NT had said that she was tehir patron but that she would have to "prove herself"..

I believe I read something similar. Basically stating that for now she is their patron but indicating that patience was running short and that she would need to prove that she both wanted to and could remain active and involved in order for the arrangement to continue to work. I think what I read said that if by Easter the administrators of the NT felt that they were getting short shrift then they would seek to change the arrangement. Again, though, it appears that this wasn't any official statement but rather someone from the NT providing his thoughts and opinions on the situation.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by _Heather_

I believe I read something similar. Basically stating that for now she is their patron but indicating that patience was running short and that she would need to prove that she both wanted to and could remain active and involved in order for the arrangement to continue to work. I think what I read said that if by Easter the administrators of the NT felt that they were getting short shrift then they would seek to change the arrangement. Again, though, it appears that this wasn't any official statement but rather someone from the NT providing his thoughts and opinions on the situation.

yes I realise that it was not an official announcement.. but all the same, I am not so sure that someone living mainly abroad is going to be welcome as a patron for a charity/organisation in a far off country. Even if they are not expected to make frequent visits...

[_Heather_]

Originally Posted by Denville

yes I realise that it was not an official announcement.. but all the same, I am not so sure that someone living mainly abroad is going to be welcome as a patron for a charity/organisation in a far off country. Even if they are not expected to make frequent visits...

I don't disagree. Frankly I'd be floored if this patronage or some of the others were continued through the rest of this year, let alone following the 12 month review. That said, I was just pointing out that it wasn't actually an official statement by someone authorized to speak on behalf of the NT but rather the thoughts of someone within the NT.

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by Denville

yes I realise that it was not an official announcement.. but all the same, I am not so sure that someone living mainly abroad is going to be welcome as a patron for a charity/organisation in a far off country. Even if they are not expected to make frequent visits...

Far off country? This isnt a hundred years ago when it would have taken months to travel back and forth. Royals have managed to represent organizations in other countries easily enough for years.

The reality is that royals only visit their patronages a few times a year for events often enough. There is no problem with Meghan doing so when she is in the country.

Love how when the Director of the National theater makes a statement that Meghan will continue people's response 'well its not an official statement from the palace so who knows'. But when some random west end producer not involved in the theatre and its running says 'she has to step up or she is out' the response is 'Well there it is, proof she is going to get kicked out.

The theatre has said that Meghan will continue with their patronage. How about we try believing the official statements that have been released, until they are proven false.

[ACO]

Originally Posted by Denville

I thought that there was a story that someone in the NT had said that she was tehir patron but that she would have to "prove herself"..

No that wasn't anyone with the National Theatre.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/110178...ional-theatre/

Frankly she has a right to her opinion but what she thinks really means nothing as long as the director and all those involved with the National Theatre are fine with the arrangement. What she thinks means as about as much as I think.

And again Rufus has went on record with his opinion and that is the one that matters.

[Osipi]

I think what it will boil down to will be the decisions of the patronages and the charities and incentives themselves. We saw this after Andrew's disastrous interview that it was the organizations themselves that removed and distanced themselves from Andrew. Perhaps the same will happen with any of the Sussex patronages? I don't know. Depends on if they want Meghan, herself, or that it was Meghan being royal that was the draw in the first place.

Time will tell the stories.

[soapstar]

The discussion about Meghan and the National Theatre is going around in circles. Let’s move on from the topic, please.

[Curryong]

Don't know whether this should go in this thread, but there is a new collaboration between Smart Works and the shirt designers who helped with Meghan's fashion capsule collection for Smart Works last year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ing-brand.html

Clothing brand loved by Meghan Markle announces collaboration with her patronage Smart Works and will mirror the royal's first fashion collection by donating a shirt to the charity for every item sold
Meghan Markle, 38, is patron of Smart Works and has often worm WBU shirts
Shirt brand announced collaboration with charity for International Women's Day
Revealed for every shirt bought, a second shirt would be donated to Smartworks
Project is almost identical to the Duchess' Smart Set collection in September
By HARRIET JOHNSTON FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 04:05 AEDT, 3 March 2020 | UPDATED: 08:31 AEDT, 3 March 2020

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[Lumutqueen]

That’s fantastic for Smartworks, their initiative deserves all the support people can offer.

[BaiSoSo]

Originally Posted by Curryong

Don't know whether this should go in this thread, but there is a new collaboration between Smart Works and the shirt designers who helped with Meghan's fashion capsule collection for Smart Works last year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ing-brand.html

Clothing brand loved by Meghan Markle announces collaboration with her patronage Smart Works and will mirror the royal's first fashion collection by donating a shirt to the charity for every item sold
Meghan Markle, 38, is patron of Smart Works and has often worm WBU shirts
Shirt brand announced collaboration with charity for International Women's Day
Revealed for every shirt bought, a second shirt would be donated to Smartworks
Project is almost identical to the Duchess' Smart Set collection in September
By HARRIET JOHNSTON FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 04:05 AEDT, 3 March 2020 | UPDATED: 08:31 AEDT, 3 March 2020

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The ripple effect that Meghan spoke about last year. Love to see it in action!

[ACO]

Meghan was at the National Theatre yesterday.

https://www.standard.co.uk/fashion/m...-a4380231.html