The Duke and Duchess of Bragança and Family: February 2008- December 2014 - Page 7

**Marengo** · #**121** 01-08-2009, 06:31 AM

Sorry for my ignoranc but what is the Réveillon?

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Thanks for the pictures Elsa, as always. The Duchess looks lovely, as usual.

royalist · #**122** 01-08-2009, 06:47 AM

Reveillon is the New Year party.

Elsa M. · #**123** 01-08-2009, 06:49 AM

From Wikipedia:

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réveillon is a long dinner and possibly party, held on the evenings preceding New Year's Day. The name of this dinner is based on the word réveil (meaning "waking"), because participation involves staying awake until midnight and beyond. In Portuguese-speaking countries, it is also a designation for the party preceding the New Year's Day.

Elsa M. · #**124** 01-09-2009, 03:40 PM

D. Duarte was interviewed for the news show "Nós por cá", on SIC:

YouTube - Entrevista a D Duarte no programa " NÃ³s por CÃ¡" 7 de janeiro de 2009, 1/4

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=oaR1zylW9lM

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=9yKvKc30bKA

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=0dHJtt3iIig

Regina · #**125** 01-09-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Carminha Stalker

I agree with you, Portugal, when you write why you don´t like Communism. I visited Portugal when they had the "revolução dos cravos" and I did see and hear the speeches of Alvaro Cunhal. He was a very fanatic man and the country especially Lisbon was a chaos. I never saw that city so dirty with grafitti marring its beautiful monuments.
Here in my country, there was an attempt at communism, just after Cuba´s revolution and we had to pay a dear price to stay out of it. Many criticize the military regime, but the other alternative was worse.
I think Dom Duarte is right in what he says.

Carminha, D. Duarte is not against communism. If you read his interview, you'll see he says Communism is a very patriotic regime. In other interviews he said he has many communist friends.

I agree 100% with you about communism

. The revolução caused many, many injustices and today we still paying the cost of it. I don't say Portugal should remain as it was before the 25 de Abril but the way this revolução was made... was just pathetic. But portuguese people tend to have a short memory. I have friends who are very conservative but they still support D. Duarte... they forget he said many years ago "I AM 100% with the revolution and our generals!"

I think Dª Isabel doesn't think like him at all. I've never heard her supporting communists and socialists as her husband does. Remember that her family had to leave Africa because of the Revolution of 1974 and start a new life in Brazil...

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Originally Posted by JSP

Unfortunately (or may be not

), none of our "first-ladies" would qualify for a queen.

I agree with you, J!

They all have a very pindérico (tacky) way of dressing and behave, right? Well, Maria Barroso was elegant ans chic all the time, but she was the only one, IMHO.

Elsa M. · #**126** 01-10-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Regina

I agree with you, J!

They all have a very pindérico (tacky) way of dressing and behave, right? Well, Maria Barroso was elegant ans chic all the time, but she was the only one, IMHO.

Actually, I think we can't complain much... it's more like fifty-fifty, I'd say. Maria Barroso is a true Lady, and so is Manuela Eanes. They're both classy women, with admirable ethics and engaged in many humanitarian causes.

Here's an interesting article about them:
Máxima - A revista feminina que lhe diz muito mais...

JSP · #**127** 01-10-2009, 02:06 PM

Maria Barroso a true lady

?
You must be joking

.
The woman was a second class actress who never dealt with the fact that the true actor in the family was her husband

.
She destilled poison when she spoke.
I never could stand her with her fake morals and her "let's visit the pobrezinhos in our mink and leopard coats and do some charity if the press is around".
For that purpose we have Lili Caneças.
Maria Barroso reminds the ladies from Movimento Nacional Feminino.

I know I can be a tiny bit partial

as I can't stand the whole Soares clan (well, the daughter doesn't bother me as she rarely shows up) but I find them a whole bunch of hypocrits.

Have you seen the interview Mário Soares gave to SIC Noticias this week ?
Laughable.
How worried he is about corruption !
Too bad nobody asks him how he got half Rua de S.Bento to install his "very important" Foundation at the time his son was the Mayor of Lisbon

.
Or about the lands he bought when Minister Jamais swore the airport would be in Ota.

As to Manuela Eanes she was a little "saltless bread" with an irritating voice.
From all the First-Ladies post 74 may be she was the less bad

.
And I agree she keeps with a worthwile task.

From the pre 74, I would distinguish Bertha Craveiro Lopes.
She was the one who hosted Queen Elizabeth when she visited Lisbon for the first time in a true regal and dignifying way.

Graças a Deus we have D.Isabel de Herédia to raise the standards

.

Regina · #**128** 01-10-2009, 07:27 PM

[quote=JSP;877978]

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Maria Barroso a true lady

?
You must be joking

.
The woman was a second class actress

I also don't like the Soares clan but apart from political opinions, Maria Barroso is indeed a very elegant woman. I was very young when Mario Soares was President but I remember that his wife, was always so well dressed... Even nowadays I like to look at old Olá magazines just to look at her outfits. Once, I saw her on Versailles confetioner and she was just perfect.
She is still much more elegant than many european queens. You may not like her, I don't like her too, but she is a Lady, just like Elsa said.

Anyway, you should like Maria Barroso since she is one of Isabel's best friend

When Isabel de Herédia got married they were always together, attending many events. I remember to see the republican Maria holding the hand of the royalist Isabel... and giving her advices. Caras magazine loved to show pictures of these two talking with each other on parties and events...

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As to Manuela Eanes she was a little "saltless bread" with an irritating voice.
From all the First-Ladies post 74 may be she was the less bad

.

I like Manuela Eanes. I also admire her husband a lot. Both are great example.

There was a very pretty lady, friend of Salazar, who was Truly elegant. I can't recall her name... I have to ask my mother. I think it was Tita Pitta Cunha... (??). She was born on an aristocratic family.

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Graças a Deus we have D.Isabel de Herédia to raise the standards

J, since when Dª Isabel is an elegant person? You may like her for many reasons but IMO she never had a regal/regal look...
Princesses like Grace, Paola, Mary of Denmark, Mathilde of Belgium are elegant, regal and classy. But IMO Isabel de Herédia is very far from their standard. Very honestly, I don't see anything special on her look and posture, but of course everyone has different opinions. And love is always blind

About her behaviour in public, Isabel is a very shy woman. She may be sweet and lovely on interviews but when she has to deal with the public she becomes very insecure and doesn't contact with them. Duarte is more extrovert. She's quiet all the time. I don't think she would do better than Maria Barroso or Maria Cavaco Silva.

Portugal · #**129** 01-10-2009, 07:41 PM

In defense of D. Duarte it seems to me he does not want to take sides on political parties.He has said in the past a King does not have political affiliation with anyone party.

Communism in Portugal and of course Iberia is tolerated.If anyone speaks out against communism they are seen as "fascist" in Portugal which of course is ridiculous.I think D. Duarte does not want to speak out against communism because he will get a backlash of unwarranted viciousness.

If anyone remembers when the Austrian politician Jorg Haider won elections (sometime in the late 80's or early 90's) alot of people especially people of royal houses were invited to his party only D.Duarte from what I can remember turned him down.What this tells us,he is definitely not "ultra-conservative".

Elsa M. · #**130** 01-13-2009, 08:48 AM

Still a few more photos from the New Year's party, from Lux magazine:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5608/lux1js0.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/313/luxiivn4.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8328/luxiiibw7.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/230/luxivit9.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9136/luxvyr1.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/7245/luxvink3.jpg

Regina · #**131** 01-14-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JSP

Have you seen the interview Mário Soares gave to SIC Noticias this week ?
Laughable.
How worried he is about corruption !
Too bad nobody asks him how he got half Rua de S.Bento to install his "very important" Foundation at the time his son was the Mayor of Lisbon

.
Or about the lands he bought when Minister Jamais swore the airport would be in Ota.

So true, JSP! Don't forget João Soares. What was he doing in Africa when he suffered that plane accident? I think he never explained what really happened... did he?

Minister "Jamais"! LOL! I know he is known by this name but it was funy to read it here.
I am glad we agree, J.

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Originally Posted by Regina

There was a very pretty lady, friend of Salazar, who was Truly elegant. I can't recall her name... I have to ask my mother. I think it was Tita Pitta Cunha... (??). She was born on an aristocratic family.

She was not Tita, but Maria Amélia Pitta e Cunha, wife of Paulo Cunha (Salazar's Minister of Foreign Affairs). She was a real "princess" of the time.

Elsa M. · #**132** 01-18-2009, 11:10 AM

Elsa M. · #**133** 01-24-2009, 02:00 PM

O Ribatejo - Canais - Ultima Hora - Causa Real assume-se como movimento político[drop_edicao]=0

The president of the Portuguese Federation of Royal Associations, Paulo Teixeira Pinto, presented the Monarchic Council, assembled today in Santarém, with a proposal to convert the Royal Cause into a national political movement.

D. Duarte Pio, who attended the Lunch of the King, sponsored by the Royal Association of Ribatejo, welcomed this idea.
Meanwhile, the Duke of Bragança took the opportunity of his visit to close, at the Municipal Library and at Santa Casa da Misericordia de Lisboa, two exhibitions about captain Júlio Pinto da Costa (the private secretary of Queen D.ª Amélia).

Here's a link about the exhibition:
http://www.cm-santarem.pt/santarem/N...osta+Pinto.htm

Elsa M. · #**134** 01-28-2009, 02:29 PM

Sapo - Portal Fama - Magia e emoção na festa de D. Vicente da Câmara

D.ª Isabel and some friends attended the concert that Vicente da Câmara performed at Tivoli theatre, to celebrate his 60th carrear aniversary. D. Duarte didn't accompany her, due to a conjunctivitis.
D. Vicente Maria do Carmo de Noronha da Câmara is an aristocratic fado singer, who descends from the Marquises of Ribeira Grande, the Counts of Torres Novas, Redondo, Vila Franca and Paraty.

Photo:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1293/sapoku7.jpg

**Marengo** · #**135** 01-28-2009, 05:15 PM

Isn't Mr. de Camara ultra-catholic and with Salazar sympathies still? That is what I heard anyway. I suppose his voice is that counts of course.

Regina · #**136** 01-28-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Elsa M.

O Ribatejo - Canais - Ultima Hora - Causa Real assume-se como movimento político[drop_edicao]=0

The president of the Portuguese Federation of Royal Associations, Paulo Teixeira Pinto, presented the Monarchic Council, assembled today in Santarém, with a proposal to convert the Royal Cause into a national political movement.

Do you know if they will be taking part on the next Elections?

Alison20 · #**137** 01-28-2009, 07:53 PM

I have just, belatedly, caught up on this family's latest pictures. The children are growing up very nicely. I always think Donna Isabella has such a lovely face, so pretty and smiley. (What is it with Portuguese ladies - it is much the same with the new Dss d'Anjou and her sister Alexandra!).

I was surprised, though, to read in the report of an interview for Da Isabella's 42nd birthday that she was not ruling out another baby. At her age I think it would be much better if she settled for the 3 lovely children she has. The risk of a handicapped child is much greater when the mother is older, and pregnancy is more draining on the mother. We also have more than enough people in the world as it is!

However, I wish them all the best for 2009.

Elsa M. · #**138** 01-29-2009, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Regina

Do you know if they will be taking part on the next Elections?[/left]

I believe this "political movement" is not intended to be a "political party", so I suppose not... but I guess Nuno da Câmara Pereira's Monarchic Party will.

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O regresso do rei - Expresso.pt

D. Duarte and D.ª Isabel attended yesterday the closing session of the regicide's centenary, organized at Universidade Católica, under the patronage of the D. Manuel II Foundation .

Keith · #**139** 02-04-2009, 08:22 AM

Is there some growing popular support for the monarchy that prompted this proposal?

Elsa M. · #**140** 02-04-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith

Is there some growing popular support for the monarchy that prompted this proposal?

Not really... only the same as it ever was.
It's just that they want now to give coherance to the royal cause, by joining the various local associations into a national unity, with an agenda, etc.