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Old 04-12-2021, 07:34 PM
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I think one of the funniest things between the two of them that I can recall happened once in a very ceremonial aspect (I can't find the reference to this so it's not verbatim and maybe I'm remembering a bit of it wrong) where the Queen was standing there and Philip was in full ceremonial uniform (the Queen's Guard with the bearskin hats?) and as they paraded past their Queen and Monarch, Philip was observed to have winked at the Queen and stated something along the lines of "Hey Babe! How 'bout a date?"

Then again, my memory isn't what it used to be.
That picture apparently turned into a meme the past few days. Apparently they were laughing because there was a swarm of bees attacking the people at the event.
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Old 04-12-2021, 07:58 PM
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Yes it's very common. You often see in newspaper announcements "Family flowers only please. Donations in lieu of flowers to ..."

I've heard the request many times on TV since Friday and you'd assume that the kind of people keen to leave flowers would be avid watchers of the TV coverage. Regardless of the Covid restrictions, this is a request I suspect the DofE made a long time ago.



Mail Online has an article saying due to covid they are quickly moving the flowers along with video of them hauling them away in vans.
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:01 PM
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Mail Online has an article saying due to covid they are quickly moving the flowers along with video of them hauling them away in vans.
Yes but I did read somewhere that BP is insistent that even though they are being removed quickly, the family intends to look at all of them, read the cards, etc. which is certainly nice for those who are leaving them. I’d not be at all surprised to find that a few temporary workers have been hired in the next couple of months to respond to condolence cards and letters.
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:03 PM
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Here is an explanation of who Prince Philip's sisters married.
http://www.tatler.com/article/prince...rman-relatives
Somehow it seems to gloss over the whole "Nazis" thing But I've come to think it's too simplistic a description of Philip's sisters and their families.

-Cecilie and Don of Hesse-Darmstadt were dead by the time the war broke out.
-Did Berthold of Baden ever join the party, given his family's leanings?
-And was it him, or Margarita's husband Gottfried who was injured very early on and invalided out?

- Christoph of Hesse-Cassel WAS in the SS. But he died. And they put his brother and sister-in-law in concentration camps, and Mafalda of Savoy died like every other Nazi victim: because they stopped viewing her as human. And Sophie was only 15 (!!) when she got engaged and 16 when she married him, which is almost as sobering. I'm not sure what her Hanoverian husband did during the war, but it was probably...less than that.

I guess what I'm saying is, I don't see a bunch of fanatical Third Reich supporters, and I'm not saying that just because their mother is Righteous Among the Nations. There's a bit more nuance than "oh, his sisters all married Nazis...PROMINENT NAZIS!"
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:24 PM
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Maybe James just didn’t want to go. He is old enough to stay home, I believe.
I have heard that originally it was supposed to be Charles and Camilla and Edward and Sophie but then Andrew wanted to go as it is his local church, where he goes most Sundays but they were only having four royals so Charles pulled out and Louise took up the fourth seat. The service also had a lottery type of process for the different groups who live/work on the Windsor Estate.

Someone earlier in the thread said something like they couldn't have both The Duke of Gloucester and Prince Michael and so neither should attend (or that is the way I read it).

I think the Kent's should all be there ahead of the Queen's relatives as they are actually relatives of Philip's in their own right. Princess Margaret's children and the Gloucester's are relatives by marriage while the Kent's are the children of Philip's own first cousin, Marina and it was at the wedding of Marina and George that Elizabeth and Philip had the first opportunity (of which we can be sure) to have met.
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:42 PM
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Hmmm- I never thought about why Philip was asked for DNA over Sophie. (Assuming that’s what happened.) I imagine he might have been the easiest to contact though. They sure knew where to find him.

It must have been a strange trip indeed.
Back to the DNA question:
Not all DNA is created equal. Males have both mitochondrial (female) DNA and Y chromosome (male) DNA representing both their maternal and paternal ancestry. Females, only have mitochondrial DNA, so can only trace maternal ancestry. Philip's DNA allowed for a more complete sample, both maternal and paternal when identifying the Russian family.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:10 PM
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I think the only grandchild’s spouse there will be Kate. I just don’t think Edo/Jack have had a meaningful relationship with Philip— at least one more meaningful than Princess Margaret’s children. Mike and Autumn might not be there either.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:21 PM
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I'm not supporting Andrew in the slightest, but he can't win. People are inclined to disdain anything he does, with very good reason, and he just doesn't have the presence or manner to change it.
I thought Prince Andrew did just fine, and he has as much right to say his piece as his siblings. I cannot condone what he may or may not have done, and that disastrous trainwreck of an interview on TV, but he is still a grieving son.

But what really interested me, after all this time away, and put him in different clothes and disregard his voice, he's just not familiar any more. If he were on the street, saying nothing, and wearing jeans and a jumper, he would just blend in with any other middle aged man.

Didn't Lady Louise look so grown up?

I had thought Prince Philip would make it to his 100th, but really, it was only his very strong will that was keeping him alive this past year, but so sad. I feel so much for The Queen, having loved him for 80 years. The (royal) world will be less without him in it. RIP.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:21 PM
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This is what makes the most sense to me too, Eskimo. Limit the attendees to Philip's actual relations and not include the in-law spouses of grandchildren at this time. I wouldn't be surprised that if restrictions are lifted further as we head into summertime in the UK, there will be a larger, more grand service of thanksgiving and remembrance perhaps at Westminster Abbey on what would have been Philip's 100th birthday with those that could not attend the actual funeral, be invited to be part of.

It's sad to think we were actually talking about how Philip may celebrate his 100th. We didn't expect it to be this way.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:24 PM
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I thought that the Wessex children are grandchildren, not great grandchildren, they are the same as William, Harry, Zara and the York sisters? or am I missing something.
You are correct. Louise and James are the children of the DofE’s youngest son Edward, making them his grandchildren. They are just younger because Edward is younger :)
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:28 PM
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Didn't Lady Louise look so grown up?
She did. But then again, she has looked increasingly more grown up each time we’ve seen her over the past year or two. I’ve said for quite some time now that I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she, along with Beatrice and Eugenie, step in to perform an occasional engagement. I rather hope they do. I’ve always had a soft spot for the three of them and while Beatrice and Eugenie have certainly blossomed into wonderful, accomplished, and capable young women, Louise appears to be very much becoming a lovely cross between her mother and HM. I can’t wait to watch her step a little further into public life over the next few years.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:52 PM
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This is what makes the most sense to me too, Eskimo. Limit the attendees to Philip's actual relations and not include the in-law spouses of grandchildren at this time. I wouldn't be surprised that if restrictions are lifted further as we head into summertime in the UK, there will be a larger, more grand service of thanksgiving and remembrance perhaps at Westminster Abbey on what would have been Philip's 100th birthday with those that could not attend the actual funeral, be invited to be part of.

It's sad to think we were actually talking about how Philip may celebrate his 100th. We didn't expect it to be this way.
I initially had hoped that would be possible but the earliest that they will allow large crowds will be June 21st so not possible for what would have been his 100th sadly. https://assets.publishing.service.go...Easy_Read_.pdf

If all goes well step 4 will start on Monday 21 June. We hope to remove all the remaining rules that are stopping people from getting together. Nightclubs will open and large events will be able to take place.

Up until then only 30 people at weddings, funerals or services to remember someone.
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Old 04-12-2021, 11:26 PM
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PBS is currently showing a Prince Philip special here in the US tonight. Watch live on Monday, April 12 at 9 p.m. EDT/8 p.m CT/10 p.m. PST

To commemorate the death of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, PBS NewsHour presents “Prince Philip: A Royal Life.” The special explores Prince Philip’s life, legacy, and his influence within the royal family, across the United Kingdom and around the world.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/w...wshour-special

Or stream on UTube https://youtu.be/j9lL4XXaY0s
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Old 04-12-2021, 11:30 PM
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PBS is currently showing a Prince Philip special here in the US tonight. Watch live on Monday, April 12 at 9 p.m. EDT/8 p.m CT/10 p.m. PST

To commemorate the death of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, PBS NewsHour presents “Prince Philip: A Royal Life.” The special explores Prince Philip’s life, legacy, and his influence within the royal family, across the United Kingdom and around the world.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/w...wshour-special

Or stream on UTube https://youtu.be/j9lL4XXaY0s
I do hope it’ll be available to stream on Netflix or Amazon Prime. It’s already 10:30 here so I’ve missed it for tonight but I’d love to watch it.
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Old 04-12-2021, 11:31 PM
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I'm not supporting Andrew in the slightest, but he can't win. People are inclined to disdain anything he does, with very good reason, and he just doesn't have the presence or manner to change it.

However if he didn't have such a cloud over him, he might possibly come across as more dignified and Edward as more fumbly. Perception is everything.

Tl;dr People like Ed and Sophie so they will like what they have to say and sympathize. People despise Andrew, so they won't.
I agree with this. I thought that, like William and Harry’s statements, the differences between Andrew and Edward’s comments were more of style than substance.. they were expressing very similar ideas.

They were both commenting on a very emotional subject, and Andrew had the added stress of knowing people would pick apart whatever he said. It would be hard for anyone to strike exactly the right note under those circumstances.
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Old 04-13-2021, 12:16 AM
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None of the children of princess Margarita is still alive; and the only daughter did not marry, so no female line descandants.
Margarita's second son, Georg Andreas is still living :) There are also three other de Waela children. Two are boys, so they can't pass it on, but the youngest is a girl, Rubi. Also, Marina of Windisch-Grätz has two daughters, Reka and Sophia Jakabffy, and Sascha Harman has a younger sister, Pascal.
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Old 04-13-2021, 12:28 AM
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Yes, I'll look now. it was at an American visit I think. He was speaking to the press or press association type group whose name escapes me now. Queen Margrethe spoke to them once on one of her visits too.

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https://twitter.com/HowardMortman/st...87027804811268

this tweet has the part you mention from a meeting with the National Press Club in DC
HRH could have done stand up comedy in another life. He was really a very funny man.
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Old 04-13-2021, 12:33 AM
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This is what makes the most sense to me too, Eskimo. Limit the attendees to Philip's actual relations and not include the in-law spouses of grandchildren at this time. I wouldn't be surprised that if restrictions are lifted further as we head into summertime in the UK, there will be a larger, more grand service of thanksgiving and remembrance perhaps at Westminster Abbey on what would have been Philip's 100th birthday with those that could not attend the actual funeral, be invited to be part of.

It's sad to think we were actually talking about how Philip may celebrate his 100th. We didn't expect it to be this way.
Depending on bubble arrangements though, that may mean that Bea / Eugenie / Zara may have to sit alone at the funeral which would be very sad. They may decide that those that loved him most (eg grandchildren) should have someone with them to support them in lieu of extended relations. I also think they should treat them the same - if Mike isn’t invited then Kate shouldn’t be either.
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Old 04-13-2021, 12:43 AM
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We had a whole weekend of tv showing snippets of the Dukes life and a great many annecdotes from people who knew him or met him. Lots of laughs were had and that's what the Royal family will miss the most I believe, is the laughter.
Over 700,000 young Australians participated in the D of E Awards scheme and 8 million worldwide. I believe Prince Edward his youngest son, the Earl of Wessex has taken the Dukes place as President now.
I admit I don't know much about Lady Louise, but you could have knocked me over with a feather when they said she had taken up carriage driving. I just didn't picture her in my mind doing that. I think it is wonderful for her.
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I do hope it’ll be available to stream on Netflix or Amazon Prime. It’s already 10:30 here so I’ve missed it for tonight but I’d love to watch it.
Ack, too late...I didn’t see this until nearly 1 am in NY. Sigh. Fortunately, it’s being repeated tomorrow night and Wed. Morning, at least in NY

Just out of curiosity, what network/s will my American friends be watching the funeral on?
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