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Old 01-20-2011, 12:11 PM
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Thank you very much for the information Jewelinthecrown, i've been searching for someone to explain this new system to me.
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:50 PM
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Some noted astrologers discount this new zodiac as rubbish. They say the researchers who changed the order and added that new one is basing the new arrangements on the wrong thing. I don't know enough about Zodiac signs to argue one way or another.
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Yes, there are many heated debates about whether Ophiuchus is an "actual" zodiac sign. It has alot to do with the Mayan calendar I think but I have absolutely no idea really
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Old 01-20-2011, 01:50 PM
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Yes, there are many heated debates about whether Ophiuchus is an "actual" zodiac sign. It has alot to do with the Mayan calendar I think but I have absolutely no idea really
Thanks for your explanation, JewelintheCrown

The Mayans?!? Now I get completely confused.
Wasn't the Zodiac thing invented by the Babylonians?

And since that didn't happen yesterday, havn't the zodiac signs shifted a bit since then?
So are Elvis and Shirliey still Stenbuk = Sagittarius, even when you count twelve signs?
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:25 PM
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This "new" Zodiac has something to do with the Mayan calendar. I will try to find out more later.

Edited to say: sorry I answered so quickly without explaining properly, I was on my way out to the cinema to see The King's Speech - great movie!
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:32 PM
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The twins are Capricorns at the moment, under the 12 month calender aren't they?
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:59 PM
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Thank you, Muhler, for keep us updated so well! I have briefly entertained the idea of studying Danish just to follow M&F better. Does that make me obsessed?


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Elvis and Shirley will have their first official flag day in 2029, when the turn eighteen and as such are of legal age. - By then public (i.e. government, state and municipal) buildings are required to fly Danneborg.
What's this about?
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:04 PM
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A little translation from me - Billedbladet

A happy foursome
It was a deeply affected couple who stood Friday afternoon in the National Hospital lobby, each with a tiny twin in the arms. Happy and tired after a short week with the kids.
Mary held the boy, Frederick the girl, and while the two small slept soundly, wrapped in the soft, knitted blanket, they got the loving glances from their parents. For although the questions rained down on the royal couple, their attention all the time was with "little girl" and "Little Boy"as they call the twins. Several times Crown Princess Mary's eyes was filled with tears when she was talking about the birth, and when she described how nice it was to have Fred at his side, it was he who struggled with the tears.
For the royal couple it has been an overwhelming experience to become parents to a couple of twins. Mary used the word "enchanting" while Frederick said that "it has been very big. " That there is no greater happiness they can agree on.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:05 PM
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When the twins turn 18, the Dannebrog will for the first time be raised on public buildings
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:11 PM
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Thank you, Muhler, for keep us updated so well! I have briefly entertained the idea of studying Danish just to follow M&F better. Does that make me obsessed?

What's this about?
No, not at all. To me it just sounds like you wish to learn more, in this case about another culture and language. And that is always a good thing.

The flag days?

The birthdays of all adult members of the DRF are official flag days.
On flag days all public institutions, buildings and so must fly Dannebrog in the honor of the DRF member who has a birthday.
DRF members under the age of eighteen are not of legal age and as such they cannot act as regent (actually Rigsforstander as only the Crown Prince can be Regent), so no flags are flying in their honor.
There are of course other flag days through out the year.

Ordinary citizens and private businesses are not required to fly Dannebrog on a flag day. If they do, the legislation regarding flying the flag applies.
That legislation is pretty detailed and pretty strict!
Examples:
Dannebrog must not fly before sun up, or 06.00 in the morning. And it must be lowered no later than 18.00 or when the sun goes down, whatever comes first.
No flag, not even that of other nations is allowed to fly higher than Dannebrog. - With the exceptions of embassies, which tecnically speaking are located on foreign soil.
A discarded Dannebrog must be burned on a clean fire. Basically, you fold the flag and place it on a fire, in say the garden.
Failing to do any of the above is a breach of the law.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:33 PM
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I have translated a bit from Billedbladet.

part 1 It was enchanting
It was a brilliant and confident CP Mary, together with CP Frederik that showed off their newborn twins. Wearing black pants, black loose fitting jacket and a beautiful pink silk blouse, she came out with her newborn son in her arms while Frederik in blue suit and mauve shirt walked beside with his daughter in his arms. From the ceiling of the National Hospital vestibule hung a sea of red and blue balloons, and although television cameras rolled, photographers snapped and reporters asked a lot of questions, "Little Girl" and "little boy" slept like babies from all the commotion.
CP has speculated what the little ones should be called "but we have not quite decided that yet, " said Mary.
That is not done before the baptismal font, said the proud father.
One of the first questions to CP Mary was how she experienced the birth of 8 January where her little son was born at 10.30 and his sister half an hour later.
It's hard to put into words but I had support from both my husband and my little boy to get her to the world. It was enchanting, said Mary while her eyes filled with tears. A few days before Fred had told how he stood with his little son in his arms so close to Mary that she could hold the boy's hand while she gave birth to twin number two.
It was a great moment said the Crown Prince moved.

CP was also asked if they are already experiencing the difference between the twins.
"She's actually a little more calm than he is but he is searching for her when they are together."
"Yes they are sleeping together. They are good at it" said Frederik.
We work hard to get them synchronized and they are actually now. But we can already see the differences but also how they are similar. I think it's something incredibly special we are allowed to experience. A great privilege to experience the relationship that exists between twins, "said Mary.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:49 PM
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I have translated a bit from Billedbladet.

part 2 It was enchanting

How did Prince Christian and Princess Isabella received their younger siblings?

Very good it sounded consistent from CP.
It was a great experience to see the two little - no, now they're the two small-but to see Christian and Isabella welcome the twins. They were so proud and so happy. Isabella began very quickly to put the quilt down on them. We have taken some amazing pictures of the four of them. Christian and Isabella are looking forward to receive them at home said Mary.

Do they intend to take maternity leave CP Frederik?
It has since occurred to me said Fred with a big grin.

What is the biggest challenge for them now?
To come home and get a new family with four children to work. We look forward very much to show the twins their new home. To get into a daily rhythm replied Frederick.

Although CP Mary's hairdresser and stylist had her look adorable, the fatigue that is a natural result of a birth is not completely hidden and Mary confessed indeed that it was not very coherent sleep she had had since the twins arrived.
No it has lacked a little. There is much breast-feeding to do she said with a smile.

What do you most look forward to when you come back to Amalienborg?
To get the whole family together and working together. Now we are six. It will be a great experience, said the CP Frederik going out of the hospital.

How are you right now CP Mary?
Oh it's hard to put into words. I'm just so ... so happy. And proud.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:09 PM
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Thank you, Muhler, for keep us updated so well! I have briefly entertained the idea of studying Danish just to follow M&F better. Does that make me obsessed?
No more than some of the rest of us! I've learned a little Norwegian/Danish/Scandinavish (only a little) because I love the Norwegian and Danish royals. I could never read a whole article or offer a halfway decent translation, but I can read some simple sentences or headlines and I can often get a vague idea what an article is about. And of course it's always nice to know a little bit about another language and culture.

Muhler and Benedikte, thanks for the updates and translations. I love hearing about the little twins. And Muhler, I particularly appreciate all the extra information you always give, like the stuff here about the flag. I've learned a lot from you, not just about the royals but about Denmark as a whole.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:51 PM
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I have translated a bit from Billedbladet.

part 2 It was enchanting

How did Prince Christian and Princess Isabella received their younger siblings?

Very good it sounded consistent from CP.
It was a great experience to see the two little - no, now they're the two small-but to see Christian and Isabella welcome the twins. They were so proud and so happy. Isabella began very quickly to put the quilt down on them. We have taken some amazing pictures of the four of them. Christian and Isabella are looking forward to receive them at home said Mary.

Do they intend to take maternity leave CP Frederik?
It has since occurred to me said Fred with a big grin.

What is the biggest challenge for them now?
To come home and get a new family with four children to work. We look forward very much to show the twins their new home. To get into a daily rhythm replied Frederick.

Although CP Mary's hairdresser and stylist had her look adorable, the fatigue that is a natural result of a birth is not completely hidden and Mary confessed indeed that it was not very coherent sleep she had had since the twins arrived.
No it has lacked a little. There is much breast-feeding to do she said with a smile.

What do you most look forward to when you come back to Amalienborg?
To get the whole family together and working together. Now we are six. It will be a great experience, said the CP Frederik going out of the hospital.

How are you right now CP Mary?
Oh it's hard to put into words. I'm just so ... so happy. And proud.
Thanks Benedikte . I like your objective translations. No manipulation. Just translation.
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The twins are Capricorns at the moment, under the 12 month calender aren't they?
Yes, that's correct

The current zodiac calendar says that

22 November - 21 December = Sagittarius
22 December - 21 January = Capricorn

Sometimes you see the dates of the zodiac cusps vary by one day (depends on the astrologer maybe?) but as the prince and princess were born on January 8th they are safely in the middle of the Capricorn sign..... until further notice
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No, not at all. To me it just sounds like you wish to learn more, in this case about another culture and language. And that is always a good thing.

The flag days?

The birthdays of all adult members of the DRF are official flag days.
On flag days all public institutions, buildings and so must fly Dannebrog in the honor of the DRF member who has a birthday.
DRF members under the age of eighteen are not of legal age and as such they cannot act as regent (actually Rigsforstander as only the Crown Prince can be Regent), so no flags are flying in their honor.
There are of course other flag days through out the year.

Ordinary citizens and private businesses are not required to fly Dannebrog on a flag day. If they do, the legislation regarding flying the flag applies.
That legislation is pretty detailed and pretty strict!
Examples:
Dannebrog must not fly before sun up, or 06.00 in the morning. And it must be lowered no later than 18.00 or when the sun goes down, whatever comes first.
No flag, not even that of other nations is allowed to fly higher than Dannebrog. - With the exceptions of embassies, which tecnically speaking are located on foreign soil.
A discarded Dannebrog must be burned on a clean fire. Basically, you fold the flag and place it on a fire, in say the garden.
Failing to do any of the above is a breach of the law.
Ah, I see. Very interesting. How many royals get this sort of treatment? Monarch + descendants + monarch's siblings, but not the siblings' kids? Just guessing here.
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Yes, that's correct

The current zodiac calendar says that

22 November - 21 December = Sagittarius
22 December - 21 January = Capricorn

Sometimes you see the dates of the zodiac cusps vary by one day (depends on the astrologer maybe?) but as the prince and princess were born on January 8th they are safely in the middle of the Capricorn sign..... until further notice
No, I'm not having any of this... I will forever be a TAURUS. On another note, when will we get official pictures of the little ones?
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:37 PM
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I am a Taurus either way even if the signs change haha.

Hopefully we will see the official pictures tomorrow or sometime this weekend. Somehow I think that we may have to wait until Crown Princess Mary's birthday, since they may just release the pictures then.
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Ah, I see. Very interesting. How many royals get this sort of treatment? Monarch + descendants + monarch's siblings, but not the siblings' kids? Just guessing here.
That's right.
The Monarch + Spouse.
Siblings of the monarch.
Children of the monarch, who are in the line of succession. (Prince/ss to Denmark). + Spouses.
Children of the crown Prince/ss.

- I'm far from certain Joachim's children will have their own flagdays when they grow up. Let alone their spouses.

That would mean eleven-twelve flagdays in twenty years time, just for the DRF. That's a lot! So I think they cut down on the numbers.
So in twenty years from now (assuming the Regent Couple is gone) we'll have.
Frederik.
Mary.
Joachim.
Marie.
Christian.
Isabella.
Elvis.
Shirley.
That would be more manageble in my opinion.

Thanks JewelintheCrown.
So the twins will remain Capricorns.
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