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No, Mette Marit wasn`t escorted by his father down the aisle
No, Mette Marit wasn`t escorted by his father down the aisle
Of course Diana and Sarah were walking down the aisle with their fathers! After all, they were English girls, marrying in England: They followed the English tradition. It would be strange to choose otherwise, wouldn't it? I am not sure if this giving away thing is traditional in Denmark (I doubt it, but maybe some Danish posters could clarify?). But as far as I know it is a tradition in France, where Marie comes from, and it certainly is in Mary's homeland Australia. So in these weddings the tradition of the bride's culture was honoured.That's what I'm saying. they should be free to choose what they want, how they want their wedding. Wasn't Diana, Fergie, Marie, Mary, Mette-Marit escorted by their fathers down the aisle?
Victoria and the Archbishop are disagreeing on whether King Carl Gustaf should walk her down the aisle. I don't see a problem with that, but since it is a tradition it is expected of her. I think the archbishop should give them what they want.
Victoria och ärkebiskopen oense om vigselakten | Svensk Damtidning
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Of course Diana and Sarah were walking down the aisle with their fathers! After all, they were English girls, marrying in England: They followed the English tradition. It would be strange to choose otherwise, wouldn't it? I am not sure if this giving away thing is traditional in Denmark (I doubt it, but maybe some Danish posters could clarify?). But as far as I know it is a tradition in France, where Marie comes from, and it certainly is in Mary's homeland Australia. So in these weddings the tradition of the bride's culture was honoured.
But my point is: Why should a Swedish woman, marrying a Swedish guy in Sweden follow a tradition which is completely un-Swedish? That would be as unusual as (hypothetically!) Kate insisting on walking down the aisle with William instead of with her father.
And Victoria is not just a normal Swedish bride who can have the kind of wedding she wants. Unfortunately for her, it is a fairly official state occasion. Actually I was quite surprised that she wishes to stray from the traditions of her beloved homeland, since she usually makes it clear that she makes Sweden her first priority, and that she honours the Swedish customs and traditions.
But another question: how do we know that she wants the king to escort her to the altar? I somehow missed this bit. Is this proven information, or might it just be another press-hype, trying to make some well-selling headlines?
Exactly. She is the great granddaughter of someone, who was leading his daughter and some of his granddaughters down the aisle.And Victoria is not just a normal Swedish bride...
With all the awful articles the press had written about the king not liking Daniel, this does seem like a nice gesture (which got ruined by the archbishop)It has a larger dimension, it is not a father leaving his daughter to another man. The symbolism is that the king is leading the country's successor to the altar - and the man who has been accepted, "said palace spokeswoman Nina Eldh to Aftonbladet.
One can read it out of the bishop´s statement and of the statements the spokeswoman of the court was making. She was though saying, it isn´t decided yet (I guess the court is keeping a backdoor, if the protests would get worse)But another question: how do we know that she wants the king to escort her to the altar? I somehow missed this bit. Is this proven information, or might it just be another press-hype, trying to make some well-selling headlines?
Of course Diana and Sarah were walking down the aisle with their fathers! After all, they were English girls, marrying in England: They followed the English tradition. It would be strange to choose otherwise, wouldn't it? I am not sure if this giving away thing is traditional in Denmark (I doubt it, but maybe some Danish posters could clarify?). But as far as I know it is a tradition in France, where Marie comes from, and it certainly is in Mary's homeland Australia. So in these weddings the tradition of the bride's culture was honoured.
But my point is: Why should a Swedish woman, marrying a Swedish guy in Sweden follow a tradition which is completely un-Swedish? That would be as unusual as (hypothetically!) Kate insisting on walking down the aisle with William instead of with her father.
And Victoria is not just a normal Swedish bride who can have the kind of wedding she wants. Unfortunately for her, it is a fairly official state occasion. Actually I was quite surprised that she wishes to stray from the traditions of her beloved homeland, since she usually makes it clear that she makes Sweden her first priority, and that she honours the Swedish customs and traditions.
But another question: how do we know that she wants the king to escort her to the altar? I somehow missed this bit. Is this proven information, or might it just be another press-hype, trying to make some well-selling headlines?
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The problem is that this is not a common wedding but an official state wedding. And moreover she is not simply a swedish princess but the crown princess.
Imo she should follow the tradition if this is what people expect of her, that's what they are paying for.
Why should a Swedish woman, marrying a Swedish guy in Sweden follow a tradition which is completely un-Swedish?
At the end of the day, if a crown princess of all people cannot be allowed to decide who walks her up the aisle with on her own wedding day, then I'm afraid there's no hope for any bride! I cannot imagine many Swedish people will take offence to Victoria's wishes, in the same way that few British people would take offence if, say, Prince William walked Kate up the aisle instead of her father - it would be different from what people are used to but most brides would still want their fathers to walk them up the aisle here. As for tradition, I think this is instilled in the actual marriage vows that couples make, rather than the technical aspects of the wedding.
Of course Diana and Sarah were walking down the aisle with their fathers! After all, they were English girls, marrying in England: They followed the English tradition. It would be strange to choose otherwise, wouldn't it? I am not sure if this giving away thing is traditional in Denmark (I doubt it, but maybe some Danish posters could clarify?). But as far as I know it is a tradition in France, where Marie comes from, and it certainly is in Mary's homeland Australia. So in these weddings the tradition of the bride's culture was honoured.
But my point is: Why should a Swedish woman, marrying a Swedish guy in Sweden follow a tradition which is completely un-Swedish? That would be as unusual as (hypothetically!) Kate insisting on walking down the aisle with William instead of with her father.
And Victoria is not just a normal Swedish bride who can have the kind of wedding she wants. Unfortunately for her, it is a fairly official state occasion. Actually I was quite surprised that she wishes to stray from the traditions of her beloved homeland, since she usually makes it clear that she makes Sweden her first priority, and that she honours the Swedish customs and traditions.
But another question: how do we know that she wants the king to escort her to the altar? I somehow missed this bit. Is this proven information, or might it just be another press-hype, trying to make some well-selling headlines?
Absolutely. Victoria could roller skate down the aisle to "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing" by Leo Sayer and it wouldn't make a hill of beans difference, as long as the vows her and Daniel make to one another are heartfelt and loving.
Someone else put it well also; these "traditions" all start somewhere and most of them are either made up at the time and then become what they are now or are slight changes to already known behaviors. Take the white wedding dress, for example. Before Queen Victoria married Prince Albert in 1840, it was not the custom for brides to wear white. They usually wore their best dress, something they would wear to church on Sunday. However after Victoria wore a white dress for her wedding -- suddenly that became the thing to do. Every bride copied her by wearing a white wedding dress. She even brought the German tradition of a Christmas tree to England, which then got exported around the world. Now it's the exception to the rule for a bride to not wear a shade of white. Other cultures have their own rules, of course -- I know for Indian weddings, the bride usually wears red.
Walking the bride down the aisle NOWADAYS, as in TODAY IN THIS CENTURY doesn't mean what it used to. Some brides are escorted by both parents, some by a brother or a close friend....whomever they want. Continuing to bang on this drum that it means the bride is property the father is handing off to the husband, that it's a symbol of ownership.....it's bunk, pure and simple.
Thanks alot LadyFinn! I love the pictures. Victoria and Daniel look really happy. They make a very good-looking couple here, imo.A wedding interview with some nice photos:
Daniel: Victoria är en varm person - gp.se
With the 'who will Victoria walk down the aisle with" is not a debate on feminism, cultural clashes (Anglo-Saxon background people can't understand why it's such as issue for Victoria's father to walk her down the aisle. Europeans who never had this tradition see it as insulting in this day and age) but the debate is about church traditions and if you choose to marry in that church about being faithful to their traditions.
An analogy would be a Jewish woman who agrees to marry in the synagogue with the Cheif Rabbi as celebrant. That then same woman decides that she doesn't want to follow one of the Jewish wedding traditions in that ceremony.
Even if it is church tradition, religious officials do not need to make an issue over this. CP Victoria's decision to have her father walk her down the hall should not be made into a religious issue. If she were violating Scripture or breaking church doctrine, that's a completely different matter. The priests and archbishop should be focusing their attention on more important church matters.
I agree. To the best of my knowledge, the Swedish Lutheran Church is not like the Church of England, where the head of state is also the head of the church. Meaning, if Victoria chooses to walk down the aisle on her father's arm rather than Daniel's, she's not violating religious tenets by doing so and neither is her father. If it was written down somewhere that Carl Gustaf is head of the Swedish Lutheran Church and as such, part of Church doctrine is that the bride walks down the aisle with the groom, then yes.....they would be violating that. However I haven't seen anyone here, Swedish or otherwise, say that. Therefore, the fact the archbishop and priests are getting involved is rather ridiculous, to say the least.
As someone else pointed out, it's not common in the Bernadotte family for the bride to walk down the aisle with the groom. More times than not, the bride is escorted down the aisle by their father or another family member if the father is not alive. I know two of the King's sisters were walked down the aisle by their uncle as their father died when they were young. So if Victoria chooses to have her father walk her down the aisle, that's her family's tradition she is going with -- not necessarily what other brides in Sweden would do.
That´s new to me. As much as I know it´s just Monarch and heir(s)The others monarch and spouse, heir(ess)'s spouse) So while the monarch is not the Head of the Lutheran church they are required to members of that church.