Pre-Abdication, Information and Musings’ thread

[Somebody]

I'm not sure there is much to attend for other family members. I guess they'll have some kind of private dinner on the day itself. Furthermore, I am curious who constitutes 'the royal family' that will attend a reception at Folketing (at least the royal couple with their children but who else, if any?) and the service in Aarhus one week later (that seems a great event for the wider family to attend).

 

[Moonmaiden23]

QMII was in mourning dress when she was Proclaimed as Queen. I suspect it will be day formal wear, like they have for Flag day

I remember coming home from seeing "Lady And The Tramp" at the cinema with my siblings that January evening in 1972.

I remember picking up the now defunct Los Angeles Herald Examiner and seeing the photo of the new Queen Margrethe of Denmark, dressed in mourning but smiling as she was seated with her ministers.

I remember thinking how pretty she was. I was always enchanted with Scandinavia, for me it was the land of Hans Christian Anderson fairy tales and Pippi Longstocking.

And now there was this beautiful young queen.?

 

[norwegianne]

Nikolai and Felix have been quoted as not invited, Marie has been said to be in Washington with the kids and won’t come.

 

[Archduchess Zelia]

Nikolai and Felix make sense. I'm not sure Isabella, Vincent and Josephine will be present either. I suspect it might be a working royals thing only – including Christian as the new Crown Prince.

Marie on the other hand... it seems like a very pointed decision for her to stay away. Certainly... a choice given that she is currently able to undertake not even a fragment of the engagements she undertook when she lived in Denmark. Joachim's absence can be excused with his job. Marie has no function in D.C. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...

 

[ricarda]

Today it was announced that after the abdication HM Queen Margrethe can step in as Rigsforstander when the King and the Crown Prince are out of the country.

 

[Stefan]

Today it was announced that HM Queen Margrethe can step in as Rigsforstander when the King Couple is out of the country. Queen Mary, Princess Benedikte and Prince Joachim can also act as Rigsforstander. Prince Christian is not mentioned yet.

Interesting that she cann still be. I think for example Princess Beatrix would not be able to be Regent if needed. But then it is a dfferent system in NL when there is hardly a Regent needed.

 

[lucien]

Interesting that she cann still be. I think for example Princess Beatrix would not be able to be Regent if needed. But then it is a dfferent system in NL when there is hardly a Regent needed.

Princess Beatrix would be very able,indeed,but,as you said,we have a different system.Our type Red Boxes are flown wherever the Monarch is,and an opening or a dinner can be planned after or before,or can wait a few days.

 

[muriel]

Today it was announced that after the abdication HM Queen Margrethe can step in as Rigsforstander when the King and the Crown Prince are out of the country.

That makes a lot of sense. So the only Rigsforstander's will be Mary, Margarethe and Benedikte. I preusme Christian will be appointed one in the not too distant future.

 

[Stefan]

Princess Beatrix would be very able,indeed,but,as you said,we have a different system.Our type Red Boxes are flown wherever the Monarch is,and an opening or a dinner can be planned after or before,or can wait a few days.

Would she. I think it was mentioned at the time that after her abdication she is constitutionally dead so to speak. and what when the Monarch is ill for a longer period of time like it was in Denmark last spring?.

 

[An Ard Ri]

Today it was announced that after the abdication HM Queen Margrethe can step in as Rigsforstander when the King and the Crown Prince are out of the country.

That's interesting and I had previously thought that was impossible post Abdication.

I've learnt something new!

 

[Blog Real]

The Royal House confirmed that Jane Stephens, Mary's sister, will be in Denmark on the day of the proclamation. Mary's father will not travel to Denmark.

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...onprinsesse-marys-far-det-kommer-ikke-til-ske

 

[Izzie]

The Royal House confirmed that Jane Stephens, Mary's sister, will be in Denmark on the day of the proclamation. Mary's father will not travel to Denmark.

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...onprinsesse-marys-far-det-kommer-ikke-til-ske

Prince Joachim will also be present on Sunday and for several events on Monday before returning to DC on Monday evening. This is also reported by Billed Bladet.

 

[Hans-Rickard]

Lovely to see that QMII will be able to stand in as Rigsforstander after abdication ?

I guess they are taking height as the new King and Queen will be expected to travel a lot, Christian will be busy with university/military/practising both inside and outside of Denmark over the coming years, Joachim lives in USA, and Benedikte lives in Germany even if she is often in Denmark… So the addition of QM to the pool of temporary regents is most welcome.

 

[ricarda]

As Crown Prince Christian would be Regent.
There was a bit of a confusion and therefore misunderstanding on my side because the announcement speaks of the time after the abdication but then refers to Frederik as the Crown Prince. Obviously someone has mentally not made the shift yet.

 

[Stefan]

The Royal House confirmed that Jane Stephens, Mary's sister, will be in Denmark on the day of the proclamation. Mary's father will not travel to Denmark.

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...onprinsesse-marys-far-det-kommer-ikke-til-ske

Intersting. don't think she will be at the actual abdication and certainly not at the proclamation. So i wonder why the far travel from Australia

 

[polyesco]

Here is the announcement, that Queen Margrethe Rigsforstander
https://www.kongehuset.dk/nyheder/h-m-dronningen-vil-kunne-indsaettes-som-rigsforstander

After January 14 Crown Prince Christian would be Regent if King Frederik is abroad.
If both King Frederik and Crown Prince Christian are abroad, a Rigsforstander will be chosen from Queen Mary, Queen Margrethe, Princess Benedikte or Prince Joachim

 

[Somebody]

That makes a lot of sense. So the only Rigsforstander's will be Mary, Margarethe and Benedikte. I preusme Christian will be appointed one in the not too distant future.

Joachim can also be appointed rigsforstander if he would be available (for example during the summer if the family is on holiday).

Isn't Christian automatically the regent if his father is abroad? If I am not mistaken, if the monarch is out of the country, the heir automatically takes over as regent. If both are out of the country a rigsforstander will be appointed.

Is there a possibility to appoint a rigsforstander while the Crown prince is in the country but unavailable because of other activities, such as military training?

 

[muriel]

Joachim can also be appointed rigsforstander if he would be available (for example during the summer if the family is on holiday).

Yes, thanks for flagging. I should have had Joachim on my list.

 

[polyesco]

Im glad Mary's sister will be there. At least one representative from Mary's family. I'm sure there will be private dinners/gathering that Jane will attend. And why not? The Donaldsons have always been very discreet and supportive.

Photos and videos of past proclamations, historical!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C17E_56tNR7/?img_index=1

Information on the Crown Jewels and other jewels of the DRF
https://www.kongehuset.dk/nyheder/kronjuveler-og-fideikommissmykker

The DRF are doing an excellent job rolling out information! Not only historical but for the day's events and changes. great job!

Nikolai and Felix make sense. I'm not sure Isabella, Vincent and Josephine will be present either. I suspect it might be a working royals thing only – including Christian as the new Crown Prince.

Marie on the other hand... it seems like a very pointed decision for her to stay away. Certainly... a choice given that she is currently able to undertake not even a fragment of the engagements she undertook when she lived in Denmark. Joachim's absence can be excused with his job. Marie has no function in D.C. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...

I hope we do see Isabella, Vincent and Josephine; as the new king's family. Hopefully.

and I agree about Marie. Personal issues aside, she is still Prinsesse af Danmark. And even more that Monday, January 15 is a federal holiday in the U.S., no school or work.
Im glad Joachim will attend.

 

[Izzie]

Im glad Mary's sister will be there. At least one representative from Mary's family. I'm sure there will be private dinners/gathering that Jane will attend. And why not? The Donaldsons have always been very discreet and supportive.

Photos and videos of past proclamations, historical!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C17E_56tNR7/?img_index=1

I agree. Jane is there to support her sister (and brother in law) as she becomes Queen. For all we know she may already be in Denmark and stay a couple of days after the change of throne. She seems to have become the defacto representative of the Donaldson family at big events and that makes sense.

I would not be surprised if she is at Christianborg on Sunday in the background watching the proceedings unfold.

Information on the Crown Jewels and other jewels of the DRF
https://www.kongehuset.dk/nyheder/kronjuveler-og-fideikommissmykker

The DRF are doing an excellent job rolling out information! Not only historical but for the day's events and changes. great job!

They really have been organized and rolling out information in a steady fashion. Kudos. Obviously took some pre announcement planning to be this ready.

And they posted some proclamation information also with some fantastic historical footage. Not only informative but educational.

 

[EML]

Eml

Im glad Mary's sister will be there. At least one representative from Mary's family. I'm sure there will be private dinners/gathering that Jane will attend. And why not? The Donaldsons have always been very discreet and supportive.

Photos and videos of past proclamations, historical!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C17E_56tNR7/?img_index=1

I agree wholeheartedly!

 

[Mbruno]

Here is the announcement, that Queen Margrethe Rigsforstander
https://www.kongehuset.dk/nyheder/h-m-dronningen-vil-kunne-indsaettes-som-rigsforstander

After January 14 Crown Prince Christian would be Regent if King Frederik is abroad.
If both King Frederik and Crown Prince Christian are abroad, a Rigsforstander will be chosen from Queen Mary, Queen Margrethe, Princess Benedikte or Prince Joachim

I know that is the law, but the idea of a 18-year-old High School senior serving as regent is a bit unsettling in this day and age.

 

[Izzie]

I doubt that Christian would be allowed to run amock around Amalienborg if he had to be regent. I am pretty sure he would have an advisor right there with him or one of the other individuals on the list for Rigsforstander there to guide him. He is 18 and will have to learn his role and the best way to learn a role is by actually performing the duties of the role when called upon.

 

[Stefan]

Wondering how it was done after Crown Prince Frederik had turned 18.Was he always called to act as Regent when his mother was abroad or did sometimes Queen Ingrid step in even if Frederik would have been available (as beeing in Denmark).

 

[tommy100]

https://www.kongehuset.dk/nyheder/kronjuveler-og-fideikommissmykker

The Royal House has released info on the royal jewels...some key points

The crown jewels
The best-known pieces of jewelery are the crown jewels, which primarily consist of four large jewelery sets: a brilliant set, an emerald set, a pearl-ruby set and a rose stone set. The crown jewels belong to the Crown, i.e. the monarch and his queen. After the change of throne, they are therefore available to HM Queen Mary

Another group of striking jewelery is the jewelery from the Danish Royal House's Loose Trust Committee. These pieces include, among others, the Perlepoire set of tiara, necklace, earrings and brooches, the large diamond necklace, called the Rivière , and the diamond frame with royal portrait worn by the Queen at the gala......The Commission of Estates jewelery is worn by the sitting Queen and can be taken abroad for use at gala events.

In Queen Margrethe's collection, you will find, among other things, the palmette tiara and the sapphire set with necklace and earrings, which Frederik IX had made as a wedding present for his daughter, the successor to the throne, Princess Margrethe. Other important pieces of jewelery are the ruby ​​and pearl set, which was a silver wedding gift from Prince Henrik, and the Greenlandic gold diadem, the flower diadem Naasut - a gift from Greenland in connection with the 40th anniversary of the government in 2012.

In the future Queen Mary's jewelry collection, you will find the old Russian turquoise and brilliant jewelry that Queen Margrethe gave to her daughter-in-law on her 50th birthday in 2022, and a slender diamond tiara that can also be used as a necklace, and which the future queen herself has purchased at auction.

The most well-known of the privately owned pieces of jewelery worn by the future queen is probably the ruby ​​set, given to the future king by her maternal grandmother Queen Ingrid

 

[polyesco]

Wondering how it was done after Crown Prince Frederik had turned 18.Was he always called to act as Regent when his mother was abroad or did sometimes Queen Ingrid step in even if Frederik would have been available (as beeing in Denmark).

A small sample about a young Frederik taking care of his Regent duties while in military training can be read here
https://www.theroyalforums.com/foru...karin-palsh-j-2008-a-17134-3.html#post1356809
(Thank you Muhler for all the great info over the years)

 

[Somebody]

Having the crown prince sign laws while running makes a mockery of the whole process imho.

Maybe they could consider the option that king Willem-Alexander introduced. Digital signing when abroad (and resigning by hand when he returns if I am not mistaken).

 

[muriel]

https://www.kongehuset.dk/nyheder/kronjuveler-og-fideikommissmykker

The Royal House has released info on the royal jewels...some key points

A few observations:

> The Baden Palmette and the sapphires stay with Queen Margarethe

> Silent on the Floral Aigrette and the Turquoise bandeau

> Any idea what the "diamond frame with royal portrait" might refer to?

 

[Archduchess Zelia]

A few observations:

> The Baden Palmette and the sapphires stay with Queen Margarethe

And the Naasut

> Any idea what the "diamond frame with royal portrait" might refer to?

I reckon that's the frame in which QMII carries her father's Royal Family Order.

 

[polyesco]

Regarding Crown Prince Frederik signing laws while running, I see it as getting things done during a special time (Frederik being in the special forces and not getting special treatment).


On Sunday 14 January at 8pm, DR1 will broadcast a brand new portrait program 'Frederik X – King of Denmark', where prominent figures and people draw a portrait of Denmark's new king, Frederik 10.
Here Haakon gives some insights
https://www.instagram.com/p/C17da9Cq3PG/

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On Sunday 14 January at 8pm, DR1 will broadcast a brand new portrait program 'Frederik X – King of Denmark', where prominent figures and people draw a portrait of Denmark's new king, Frederik 10.
Here Haakon gives some insights
https://www.instagram.com/p/C17da9Cq3PG/

More from Haakon
"In the same interview, Crown Prince Haakon is asked how he thinks Crown Prince Frederik has grown with the task in relation to being heir to the throne.
- I think it has developed in a very positive way, because he is a warm person. An open person, open to the world, and he has lots of positive energy to contribute. So it is the case that it is wise to base your work, what you have to do, on your own personality and your own strengths. He's really good at that."

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...r-kronprins-haakon-sig-om-det-kommende-danske