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Old 04-04-2018, 10:56 PM
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I can’t link as I’m on a portable device @ the moment, but the Fail is reporting that 2 of the motorcycle officers escorting Charles and Camilla to the opening where involved in a crash and hospitalized - I wonder if the couple witnessed the crash, if so it might account for their somber expressions.
It's not just the Daily Mail that is reporting this. I think it would be strange if they looked chipper and cheerful after the accident (and can imagine the criticism).

The good news is that the injuries do not seem to be serious. I hope the officers recover soon.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/20...d-police-crash
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:59 PM
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The Queen, or rather the Uk government, have been constantly picking William over Charles for the “ Brexit charm offensive” ( France, Germany, Poland, Scandinavia) and official visits to key countries like China. That makes sense as, let’s be frank, William is far less controversial and less prone to diplomatic misgivings than his father.
Who did then send to Austria, Italy, Romania and Ireland for the Brexit charm offensive?

Charles and Camilla - at the insistence of the F&C Office - the same office that sent William and Harry.

Hardly 'constantly picking William over Charles - two tours each.

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William and/or Kate have also been to Commonwealth countries {Australia, New Zealand, and quite frequently in Canada). Polls show that they are far more popular in the realms than Charles and Camilla. As I said, though, William and Kate are about to have a baby in the next days or weeks. It is out of question that either one could go to Australia. And, I go back to my point, Charles wants to be seen as the Queen’s natural successor as Head of the Commonwealth and therefore has a vested interest in attending Commonwealth events.
William and Kate have been to Canada twice since they have been married. In the same time Charles and Camilla have been there at least as often (it was Charles and Camilla who were sent to represent the Queen at the 150th anniversary of Canada).

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My point was also that, when Charles and Camilla are on the throne in their mid to late 70s or whenever, they won’t be like the young Queen Elizabeth IIi traveling around the Commonwealth to open each realm parliament session as she did in the early years of her reign. There are limitations that an aging royal couple has and that is precisely why so many continental royals now abdicate in their mid to late 70s.
She opened each parliament session once. She has fewer opportunities now with only 16 realms.

This is one of the reasons, to me, that she should have abdicated about 20 years ago (making 70 the 'cut-off' date). Britain will have a succession now of old monarchs at their accession unless there is a tragedy - like George VI dying in his 50s.
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Old 04-04-2018, 11:11 PM
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The Queen, or rather the Uk government, have been constantly picking William over Charles for the “ Brexit charm offensive” ( France, Germany, Poland, Scandinavia) and official visits to key countries like China. That makes sense as, let’s be frank, William is far less controversial and less prone to diplomatic misgivings than his father.

Absolute rot. Since the Brexit vote, Charles and Camilla have visited Italy, Romania, Austria, Ireland, Malta, Canada, Singapore, India, Malaysia, Bahrain, UAE and Oman. They were welcomed warmly by both leaders and crowds. I think they were in Australia and New Zealand just before the vote.

William and/or Kate have also been to Commonwealth countries {Australia, New Zealand, and quite frequently in Canada). Polls show that they are far more popular in the realms than Charles and Camilla. As I said, though, William and Kate are about to have a baby in the next days or weeks. It is out of question that either one could go to Australia. And, I go back to my point, Charles wants to be seen as the Queen’s natural successor as Head of the Commonwealth and therefore has a vested interest in attending Commonwealth events.

This does not detract from my point that questions about Charles being head of the commonwealth arise from the changing political positions of members countries, not because of Charles himself.

My point was also that, when Charles and Camilla are on the throne in their mid to late 70s or whenever, they won’t be like the young Queen Elizabeth IIi traveling around the Commonwealth to open each realm parliament session as she did in the early years of her reign. There are limitations that an aging royal couple has and that is precisely why so many continental royals now abdicate in their mid to late 70s.


This is nothing more than ageism. A belief that human beings have a "use by date" and that once we reach a certain age we should be put out to pasture. This comes up time and again on this board with calls for the older royals to step aside to allow the younger royals. It will be fun to see the same calls made for drab, boring and middle-aged William and Kate to step aside or be bypassed so that a far more popular and youthful Prince George can succeed.

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And what alternative is there to the British monarch as ceremonial head? A rotation system, a following of the alphabet, 'oh it's so and so year, it must be 'N' New Zealand's turn. Their PM will be pleased!'?
Why not? The European Union seems to manage with a rotating presidency.
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Old 04-04-2018, 11:17 PM
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It's not just the Daily Mail that is reporting this. I think it would be strange if they looked chipper and cheerful after the accident (and can imagine the criticism). The good news is that the injuries do not seem to be serious. I hope the officers recover soon.https://www.9news.com.au/national/20...d-police-crash
Wow! That would make anyone distracted methinks.
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Old 04-04-2018, 11:20 PM
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It's not just the Daily Mail that is reporting this. I think it would be strange if they looked chipper and cheerful after the accident (and can imagine the criticism).

The good news is that the injuries do not seem to be serious. I hope the officers recover soon.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/20...d-police-crash


I expected them to be following what was happening and be interested. I think people using that as excuse are really going to far

It appears no one was hurt it didn’t delay anyone
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Old 04-04-2018, 11:23 PM
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Who did then send to Austria, Italy, Romania and Ireland for the Brexit charm offensive?

Charles and Camilla - at the insistence of the F&C Office - the same office that sent William and Harry.

Hardly 'constantly picking William over Charles - two tours
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Italy and Romania were closer to private trips than diplomatic missions actually. and the Austrian dudn’t even show up on the radar. Charles was in Italy primarily to receive an award in Florence. William’s missions to France and Germany (the two main countries in the EU), could be genuinely described as part of the “Brexit charm offensive”.

Look, Charles may have merits of his own, but he is seen as eccentric, detached and a little bit of a loose canon. That is a fact and HMG is fully aware of that.
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Old 04-05-2018, 12:50 AM
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Here are some first photos of day 2, April 5:


** rex gallery **


** dailymail: Charles and Camilla show off table tennis skills on tour of athletes´ village **


** gettyimages/zimbio gallery: Prince Of Wales And Duchess Of Cornwall Visit Queensland - Day 2 **
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Old 04-05-2018, 01:16 AM
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Picture of them at the beach

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhLP1_DBMIX/

video of their arrival to reveal a plaque at broadbeech

https://twitter.com/newsguyanthony/s...49295312351232

Cute kids ready to greet the couple with homemade Anzac biscuits

https://twitter.com/lucymurray53/sta...45528663715840

Picture with the governor of Queensland

https://twitter.com/ClarenceHouse/st...03379310309376

The dog is Gavel, the vice-regal dog. He was a police dog unit drop out, who had been fostered by the governor, so he adopted him. He now is an official member of the governor's household. He participates in a number of official engagements, including greeting Charles and Camilla.
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Old 04-05-2018, 03:56 AM
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Italy and Romania were closer to private trips than diplomatic missions actually. and the Austrian dudn’t even show up on the radar. Charles was in Italy primarily to receive an award in Florence. William’s missions to France and Germany (the two main countries in the EU), could be genuinely described as part of the “Brexit charm offensive”.
Not sure how you can describe C&C's trips to Italy and Romania as private trips, when they were at the request of the FCO, and were packed with public engagements. As for Austria not showing up on the radar, well I guess we know which radar might need some re-tuning!
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Old 04-05-2018, 04:01 AM
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Daily Mail is also covering the visit - from a toilet-seat angle: Prince Charles discusses carrying his own toilet seat with him to Australia | Daily Mail Online

As you know it was said in a recent book that Charles brings his own toilet-seat when he go somewhere.
And someone appeared to have asked him directly whether that was true, which he denied, taken somewhat aback.

Good grief, how could anyone even ask that question in the first place? - And secondly it's not possible for him to bring his own toilet-seat. Toilets are not made to the same standard, so it most likely wouldn't fit anyway.
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Old 04-05-2018, 07:21 AM
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Daily Mail is also covering the visit - from a toilet-seat angle: Prince Charles discusses carrying his own toilet seat with him to Australia | Daily Mail Online

As you know it was said in a recent book that Charles brings his own toilet-seat when he go somewhere.
And someone appeared to have asked him directly whether that was true, which he denied, taken somewhat aback.

Good grief, how could anyone even ask that question in the first place? - And secondly it's not possible for him to bring his own toilet-seat. Toilets are not made to the same standard, so it most likely wouldn't fit anyway.
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I like his response : Don't believe that cxxx
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Old 04-05-2018, 07:38 AM
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It appears no one was hurt it didn’t delay anyone
Thankfully no one was seriously hurt but two police officers were taken to the hospital. I truly hope it wasn't serious and they recover soon.

Motorcades are never delayed for accidents, if anything they speed up. Keep in mind that accidents may be diversions created by terrorists for the purpose of delaying or diverting motorcades. The driver and protection officer in the car, as well as the other protection officers are well trained on how to handle these situations.
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Old 04-05-2018, 12:34 PM
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Here's a short video of HRH The Prince of Wales and HRH The Duchess of Cornwall soak up the sun on Australian beach.

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Old 04-05-2018, 05:40 PM
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I think Camilla is utterly brilliant to step out of her shoes and walk the sand authentically. JMO.
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Old 04-05-2018, 06:00 PM
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As you know it was said in a recent book that Charles brings his own toilet-seat when he go somewhere.
And someone appeared to have asked him directly whether that was true, which he denied, taken somewhat aback.

Good grief, how could anyone even ask that question in the first place? - And secondly it's not possible for him to bring his own toilet-seat. Toilets are not made to the same standard, so it most likely wouldn't fit anyway.
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This is truly hilarious

My favorite photos:
Charles all proper in a suit and shoes and Camilla relaxed and barefoot:
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/C...Om6j_b9DYx.jpg
Posing with the 2018 Commonwealth Games mascot, Borobi:
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/C...bslXPNjSwx.jpg
Camilla’s koalas:
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/C...i-x5y-yQdl.jpg
Playing table tennis during a visit to Athlete's Village:
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/C...FYVhXd5ovx.jpg
And this is what a ‘’relaxing’’ stroll on the beach looks like for a royal on official tour:
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/C...qbM01wiP_x.jpg
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Old 04-05-2018, 06:04 PM
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Charles is always perfectly dressed in the most amazing tailored suits. He's also always had really great sunglasses game and seems to have a pretty nifty new pair.
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Old 04-05-2018, 07:49 PM
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This is truly hilarious

And this is what a ‘’relaxing’’ stroll on the beach looks like for a royal on official tour:
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/C...qbM01wiP_x.jpg
Yes, this is what people don't think about--too many think there is just a random photographer or two--but there is usually a pack.
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Old 04-05-2018, 07:54 PM
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Yes, this is what people don't think about--too many think there is just a random photographer or two--but there is usually a pack.
Yes, and this is for a relatively unpopular royal like Camilla. For someone like Kate or soon Meghan it’s much worse.
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Old 04-05-2018, 08:19 PM
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My point was also that, when Charles and Camilla are on the throne in their mid to late 70s or whenever, they won’t be like the young Queen Elizabeth IIi traveling around the Commonwealth to open each realm parliament session as she did in the early years of her reign. There are limitations that an aging royal couple has and that is precisely why so many continental royals now abdicate in their mid to late 70s.


This is nothing more than ageism. A belief that human beings have a "use by date" and that once we reach a certain age we should be put out to pasture. This comes up time and again on this board with calls for the older royals to step aside to allow the younger royals. It will be fun to see the same calls made for drab, boring and middle-aged William and Kate to step aside or be bypassed so that a far more popular and youthful Prince George can succeed.
Which is a pretty normal practice in the workplace. At some point people deserve to reduce their workload; especially if they are no longer able to fulfill their tasks with the same energy and ability as before. They can still contribute in many other ways but remaining the 'top dog' is not necessarily in their best interest nor in that of their work environment (in the short and or long term). It could even be seen as quite cruel to still expect them to keep up with the same pace; and if they don't, the country (and heir) would benefit from a retirement in time.

If someone believes that staying on the throne is their moral obligation, I wouldn't suggest that they abdicate but in all other cases it is much healthier in the long run to have monarch in the prime of their lives (and let's take the broadly: preferably late thirties or forties (so they have some life experience and hopefully had some time to raise their family) until their late sixties or seventies).
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Old 04-05-2018, 08:43 PM
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I think we can both agree there won’t be a next time if it’s true she doesn’t travel well don’t think she will do it again.
I'm not aware. Can you elaborate? I find it odd that if travel is impacting her health she would choose to fly out and then fly back so soon. Wouldn't that exacerbate whatever problem she is dealing with?
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