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Old 12-06-2016, 08:50 PM
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I don't get this, if he spent his money to do whatever on an off day why does it matter? William and Kate have taken off one or two days to do private events during a tour. If Meghan is with friends and Harry just shows up privately why should it matter?
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:58 PM
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Ya know, the fact that Harry has done all this tell me he is going to propose soon and he may do it over their one week vacation.

Suits has been renewed for a seventh season, which Meghan is likely under contract for. I wouldn't bet on an engagement until her contract with Suits is up as if she marries Harry she's not likely to continue acting.
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:05 PM
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the "problem" is two-fold

1. in 2004, because of an issue where P Andrew melded both public and private events together (ie going on an official tour and adding private event on the end) - this was queried and the National Audit Office (those who check that the royals are doing it right financially with public money) were told it would not happen again. Royal policy is that it will not happen again (that's like carving in stone).
However, it looks like that is exactly what Harry has done, plus the media were explicitly told he was NOT going to Canada but going directly home.

2. second problem is linked to the 1st. The media were asked the question re going to Canada and were told explicitly he was going home. They hate being lied to. So they will moan but this really isn't the main issue.

Main issue is it looks like a breach of Royal policy (not media policy) set out in 2004.

On its own I don't think its big, but a disgruntled media and some public complaining (cost of BP) adds up to a bigger problem.

People need to understand that Harry does not act on his own. Everything he does reflects on the Monarchy. That's what he meant when on the tour, he talked about his responsibilities as a royal
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:13 PM
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Suits has been renewed for a seventh season, which Meghan is likely under contract for. I wouldn't bet on an engagement until her contract with Suits is up as if she marries Harry she's not likely to continue acting.
I bet it does happen and soon! I also heard that there is no reason why she can't continue acting. So, we'll see.
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:15 PM
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I bet it does happen and soon! I also heard that there is no reason why she can't continue acting. So, we'll see.

She could also be written off the show pretty easily. Actors are all the time.


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Old 12-06-2016, 09:27 PM
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My memory isn't what it used to be and even sometimes goes missing in action. I do seem to recall something about being out of the country. Is it possible that with this trip to Canada on his way home from Barbados that it has been approved by HM, The Queen herself? I don't imagine it would be overly hard for Harry to phone his grandmother and ask for an OK to make a detour on the way going home. He probably sought approval also for his extended stay in Nepal after the tour was done.

Whatever happened, wherever he went and where he is now shows that Harry really is getting good at keeping things under the radar and out of sight of prying eyes.
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:37 PM
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My memory isn't what it used to be and even sometimes goes missing in action. I do seem to recall something about being out of the country. Is it possible that with this trip to Canada on his way home from Barbados that it has been approved by HM, The Queen herself? I don't imagine it would be overly hard for Harry to phone his grandmother and ask for an OK to make a detour on the way going home. He probably sought approval also for his extended stay in Nepal after the tour was done.

Whatever happened, wherever he went and where he is now shows that Harry really is getting good at keeping things under the radar and out of sight of prying eyes.
he would have to pay for it and the fares of his RPOs from his personal funds.
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:39 PM
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Welp it seems these two are crazy in love. If the palace seeks to force them apart, that clearly would not work. They need to draw her closer to the fold and start unofficial princess lessons. They need to be seen together to legitimize the relationship, perhaps at something Christmassy.
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:46 PM
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Welp it seems these two are crazy in love. If the palace seeks to force them apart, that clearly would not work. They need to draw her closer to the fold and start unofficial princess lessons. They need to be seen together to legitimize the relationship, perhaps at something Christmassy.
There is NO evidence of the Palace seeking to force them apart. Where did that come from?
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:49 PM
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In America there are some blind items saying The Palace does not approve, but that could just be untrue since they are blind items and American. Also the American tabloid press is running with the Palace not approving of this relationship story.
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:50 PM
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If some of the comments/approach that I have read on various sites from US contributers are anything to go by, there is a real lack of understanding about the mechanics of royal life.

On his v successful tour, Harry spoke about the enormous responsibility inbeing royal and how he has to earn the privileges that being royal brings him.

Any future wife has to understanding that, be willing to take it on, and really get to grips with the mechanics of how it all works.

Its been hard enough for British women having been brought up in the country, (QEQM turned down Bertie twice because of her concerns about royal life and she knew them well) but I think those not used it, possible used to celebrity but not royalty, it will take time. IM reminded of Grace Kelly who felt the restrictions at the time.

This is not a celebrity life where eventually you are not recognised in the street and can live yr ownlife. This is for all time, with every word, tweet, letter, passing comment, frown, laugh and sigh analysed and written about. Same applies to yr friends and family.

They need time and that is going to be very difficult. And fans (click bait) wont be helping.

Thank you so much for a great post I couldn't agree more. The life of a royal is no fairy tale with a fairy princess and happy ever afters




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Old 12-06-2016, 09:58 PM
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If Harry did not go to Toronto however, but instead chose to stay in Barbados for a couple of days with MM who flew in, and then he catches a plane back to the UK in order to perform his engagement on the 7th, technically the aide telling the media in Guyana that Harry would be going straight to London from Barbados, wouldn't be lying. It would just be another day, another time, another commercial flight!

There are a lot of lovely places to hide out in Barbados, or surrounding small islands, deserted beaches, private chalets, sunshine....
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Old 12-06-2016, 10:01 PM
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he would have to pay for it and the fares of his RPOs from his personal funds.
That pretty much is a given that Harry would finance having a layover (isn't that really what it was? Kind of a like a flyby visit?) in Toronto. My thinking was along the lines (after reading so much on royal protocol and procedures brought up recently here) that he would have to keep the monarchy informed of his plans and his movements. He may be able to disappear off the radar of the public and the press but never under the radar of Granny and The Firm.
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Old 12-06-2016, 10:15 PM
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If Harry did not go to Toronto however, but instead chose to stay in Barbados for a couple of days with MM who flew in, and then he catches a plane back to the UK in order to perform his engagement on the 7th, technically the aide telling the media in Guyana that Harry would be going straight to London from Barbados, wouldn't be lying. It would just be another day, another time, another commercial flight!

There are a lot of lovely places to hide out in Barbados, or surrounding small islands, deserted beaches, private chalets, sunshine....
It sounds like I'm being bloody-minded but I'm not. He can laze around with his girl which is good and be happy - however...

He would still be in breach of the royal policy ( ie doing exactly what P Andrew did which caused the problem way back when)

and less importantly IMO, he didn't fly directly to London as told to journos. I don't worry about this but the first is a concern.

Lots of people ready to give Harry a pass cos its Harry and he's in "lurve".
I don't - I go with what he said about being responsible and earning his privileges.

I'm done with this cos I've stated my view. But he really is going to have a hard time relationship wise cos neither his "fans" or the media will give him a break. Poor devil.
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Old 12-06-2016, 10:24 PM
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I bet it does happen and soon! I also heard that there is no reason why she can't continue acting. So, we'll see.

You aren't going to see Meghan continue acting if she and Harry were to marry. They will be expected to work full time for the family business.

He's not a minor royal who gets pulled out couple times a year for an event. He's never going to be one...until maybe George becomes King. Even then as uncle to the King..no small thing.


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Old 12-06-2016, 10:27 PM
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I bet it does happen and soon! I also heard that there is no reason why she can't continue acting. So, we'll see.


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She could also be written off the show pretty easily. Actors are all the time.


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If the show wanted to write her off they could, but if she's under contract they're under no obligation to do so. Typically actors are written off when shows continue and contracts aren't renewed. Sometimes actors under contract can be fired, but it's rare for an actor under contract to quit as they risk being sued.

I believe contracts are typically 5-7 years for a new show. Gina Torres left Suits at the mid-season finale when her contract was up, and the show's creator signed a 2-year contract with the network before this season started airing. That to me kind of implies that a number of contracts were up for renewal before season 6 started filming, and renewals were probably for 2 years (covering season 6 and a possible season 7). I wouldn't be surprised if Meghan is under contract for another season.

There is no legal requirement that Meghan cease acting if she marries Harry, but it is incredibly unlikely. For starters, Harry is based out of the UK and his housing and security is paid for by the British taxpayer. Any wife of his is going to require the security... but the British tax payers aren't likely to be wanting to pay for full time security in Canada (and the Canadian taxpayers certainly won't; they made a fuss about having to pay for the Prime Minister's nannies).

Second of all, there would be a huge conflict between being an actress who has to do talk shows and interviews and answer press questions to promote her show, and the Princess who has to have a very carefully guarded relationship with the press. Meghan Markle, Suits star is going to have to appear on talk shows. The Duchess of Sussex, however, is probably someone the BRF does not want appearing on talk shows. And that's not even taking into consideration whether or not the BRF wants the Duchess of Sussex filming romantic scenes with a costar. Meghan is the female romantic lead in Suits, which airs on cable TV. I don't think there's been any actual nudity on it, but there have definitely been sex scenes and scenes where Meghan is scantily clad. All fine and dandy while she's Meghan Markle, but when she's HRH The Duchess of Sussex... different story.
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:10 PM
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Prince Harry stays with her one more day?

Prince Harry extends controversial vacation with Meghan Markle | Page Six


Does this mean Harry is staying with Meghan an extra day in Toronto?
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:12 PM
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You aren't going to see Meghan continue acting if she and Harry were to marry. They will be expected to work full time for the family business.

He's not a minor royal who gets pulled out couple times a year for an event. He's never going to be one...until maybe George becomes King. Even then as uncle to the King..no small thing.


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Old 12-06-2016, 11:26 PM
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Aron Korsh, the creator of suits, gave an interview with Collider earlier this year and said all cast members were under contract through season 7. I too doubt that Meghan the Dutchess would be able to keep her acting career, but what about Meghan the fiancée? IF Harry and Meghan were to become engaged in the near future, would there be any issues with her finishing out her contract through season 7?
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:32 PM
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Prince Harry extends controversial vacation with Meghan Markle | Page Six


Does this mean Harry is stay with Meghan an extra day in Toronto?
I don't believe Harry's in Toronto, I believe he's enjoying a break in Barbados with MM. Nevertheless, I don't think a site that has other offerings like 'Kanye's out of hospital but not living with Kim' and 'Anthony Weiner too broke to stay in sex rehab' is exactly a credible source. I think Harry will turn up to his engagement in London in the 7th, wherever he is.
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