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Old 02-14-2017, 11:52 PM
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I've read that Meghan's father Tom is either Jewish or of Jewish descent. Actually a while ago I also read a post from a mod on another forum who has contacts in show biz and she said that Meghan and her father were known at a certain synagogue in LA when she was much younger and living there. I put that out here at the time.

This was a few months ago, but I remember her stating that she (Meghan) participated in some cultural events there as well. Is that possible? As a non Jewish person I don't know whether Meghan would have been allowed to attend regular services at a synagogue if she wasn't converted, even if she was under her father's wing.

Whatever happened in LA, Meghan doesn't appear to be a regular worshipper at any Toronto synagogue, and her wedding, to a Jewish man, was non-denominational. Perhaps when Meghan was younger she was experimenting, and then settled down to no practising religion at all, following Buddhist philosophies or something else.

Whatever floats your boat as far as I'm concerned, as a Methodist who was baptised and confirmed into the C of E.
Judaism is matriarchal, in the family sense. You take your religion from your mother. That is why Jewish families would be more upset by a son marrying out if their faith. It would be expected if their son was married to a catholic, the child would be Catholic. Muslims are the opposite, children automatically take the religion of their father.

It would depend on the synagogue. The more fundamental/traditional may not welcome outsiders at sabbath. But certainly more liberal ones do. I have attended on occasion. I have friends who are, and I have attended Passover she Hanukkah at their home and have attended synagogue.

It seems to be more common in past decades for blended families to share bits of both traditions. It wouldn't be odd got Meghan to have attended synagogue with her dad and celebrate Hanukkah but church she Christmas with mom. Especially since her parents are divorced.
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Old 02-15-2017, 12:13 AM
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Isn't it up to an adult person to define their own relgious believes? I don't think that Meghan's religious believes can any more at the age of 35, be refined by her parents' religion. I've never read or heard her speak about religion, or her own believes. She may have, I just haven't read about it.
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Old 02-15-2017, 12:51 AM
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Isn't it up to an adult person to define their own relgious believes? I don't think that Meghan's religious believes can any more at the age of 35, be refined by her parents' religion. I've never read or heard her speak about religion, or her own believes. She may have, I just haven't read about it.
As an adult you can choose to convert. Or to be a non-practicing. But if you were raised Jewish, and haven't actively changed that, you'd be Jewish. Same goes with bring Catholic or Protestant. I was baptized Catholic, if I chose to attend Anglican Church, which did from time to time in England, it wouldn't make me Anglican. Technically I'd still be Catholic. Yes, as an adult, you make your jen decisions about religion. But you do have to make them.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:09 AM
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Reading over these posts discussing Meghan's possible religion, the one person that comes to mind that she may be like is Charles. Charles is most definitely a member of the Church of England and that is where he worships but when it comes down to religion, I think he's of a mind to embrace the fact that there is something beautiful in all religions and he respects and wants to know about all of them. Perhaps this is where Meghan is at 35.
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Reading over these posts discussing Meghan's possible religion, the one person that comes to mind that she may be like is Charles. Charles is most definitely a member of the Church of England and that is where he worships but when it comes down to religion, I think he's of a mind to embrace the fact that there is something beautiful in all religions and he respects and wants to know about all of them. Perhaps this is where Meghan is at 35.
Prince Charles has great respect for Christhian Ortodox Church, even helps... Am I right that Prince Philip iwas ortodox but converted?

Anyway, slow news these days ...
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:11 PM
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Perhaps a big outing by the couple would do some good.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:18 PM
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Prince Charles has great respect for Christhian Ortodox Church, even helps... Am I right that Prince Philip iwas ortodox but converted?

Anyway, slow news these days ...
Yes, Philip was baptized in the Greek Orthodox Church. He officially converted before the wedding, but he was never a practicing orthodox. He started attending Anglican service living with his Mountbatten grandmother and relatives as a child, and with his classmates. He is said to have always considered himself Anglican, just was made official when he married the future queen.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:23 PM
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My best friend married a jewish husband from Israel but were nor allowed to marry there and went to Cypresses but all 4 childrean are jewish no why they could be catholics...

But anyway, that question will be solved easily if they decide to marry...
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:46 PM
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Going by that Meghan didn't have a religious first wedding, it would seem that she isn't super religious. If you were so hardcore Catholic, that you need to marry a British prince who Grandmother, Father and Brother are the future head of the Church of England in a Catholic Church, then you aren't going to get married on a beach in Jamaica with beer pong as part of the wedding activities. The same thing if she was Jewish.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:09 PM
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Oh wow I was'nt aware that one had to be super Pious inorder to marry into the royal family. Poor Meghan how will she ever be pure enough for these super perfect and pious people. For shame.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:12 PM
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American religion focuses alot on redemption....while it seems British religion is all about status and privilege and perfection. So if someone plays beer pong they are always bad or if someone has a wild night in Vegas they are always that image. Americans like the concept of reinvention. So someone who starts out bad can redeem themselves, set their lives straight and be respected for that. England is not about redemption but just born status.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:31 PM
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We're talking religion here folks and last I heard, it never is a "one size fits all" kind of thing. It just doesn't seem right to me to classify, put labels on or denote a way of personal worship as being stereotyped. Each person finds their own path that suits them and maybe are part of an organized religion as a part of a bigger grouping of like minded souls.

Religion isn't a topic that is really encouraged here so I think perhaps we should maybe move on to another aspect of Harry and Meghan's relationship? Just my thoughts.
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I was just saying if you want your royal wedding to be something other than an Anglican wedding like a Catholic wedding, you have to some strong religious beliefs and that would probably would have been the same for an earlier wedding. I didn't say that only perfect pious people can marry the BRF.

However it doesn't seem that a discussion can be had on this thread. I won't bother looking at it anymore.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:44 PM
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I was just saying if you want your royal wedding to be something other than an Anglican wedding like a Catholic wedding, you have to some strong religious beliefs and that would probably would have been the same for an earlier wedding. I didn't say that only perfect pious people can marry the BRF.

However it doesn't seem that a discussion can be had on this thread. I won't bother looking at it anymore.


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Old 02-15-2017, 06:34 PM
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American religion focuses alot on redemption....while it seems British religion is all about status and privilege and perfection. So if someone plays beer pong they are always bad or if someone has a wild night in Vegas they are always that image. Americans like the concept of reinvention. So someone who starts out bad can redeem themselves, set their lives straight and be respected for that. England is not about redemption but just born status.


Wow I can't believe I'm reading this , religion is the same where ever I wouldn't be taking the high ground especially these days.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:12 PM
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I was just saying if you want your royal wedding to be something other than an Anglican wedding like a Catholic wedding, you have to some strong religious beliefs and that would probably would have been the same for an earlier wedding. I didn't say that only perfect pious people can marry the BRF.

However it doesn't seem that a discussion can be had on this thread. I won't bother looking at it anymore.
Don't worry Skippyboo, I know what you meant and I understand perfectly
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My best friend married a jewish husband from Israel but were nor allowed to marry there and went to Cypresses but all 4 childrean are jewish no why they could be catholics...

But anyway, that question will be solved easily if they decide to marry...
Your friends kids either 1 were converted to Jewish or 2 belonged to reformed Judaism.

Converting Infants and Children - My Jewish Learning

By rabbinic law, there is two ways to be Jewish. One is to be born to a Jewish woman, and the other is to be a righteous convert. If you are born to a Jewish father but a gentle mother, you are a Gentile.

The main sects of the Jewish church do not recognize children of gentile mothers as having Jewish heritage. In order for them to enter the faith, they must convert. Even if they have been raised in a synagogue, and have no other religion. They don't have the concept of baptism.

The reform sect thohgh is different. a child with a Jewish father can be recognized as Jewish. But they would need to be raised only within that faith.


The likelihood Meghan is Jewish, is slim to nun. Her father would have to be reform, and she would have only been able to attend synagogue. Seems unlikely she didn't attend church at times with her mother.

It is highly likely Meghan is neither. She may never have been baptized in her mothers church. She may have attended both synagogue and church with her parents.

It could also explain why her first marriage is secular. Unless married by a reformed Rabi, who recognized Meghan as Jewish, the wedding would be considered interfaith. And it is not easy at times to fund rabis willing to perform an interfaith. If they wanted a destination wedding, may have been even harder.


If she wasn't comfortable with the thought of being Anglican I font see her ever dating Harry. At her age, if you want to marry one day, you look for certain qualities in who you date. Like if they want kids or not. Or religious beliefs.
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Old 02-15-2017, 10:25 PM
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Your friends kids either 1 were converted to Jewish or 2 belonged to reformed Judaism.

Converting Infants and Children - My Jewish Learning

By rabbinic law, there is two ways to be Jewish. One is to be born to a Jewish woman, and the other is to be a righteous convert. If you are born to a Jewish father but a gentle mother, you are a Gentile.

The main sects of the Jewish church do not recognize children of gentile mothers as having Jewish heritage. In order for them to enter the faith, they must convert. Even if they have been raised in a synagogue, and have no other religion. They don't have the concept of baptism.

The reform sect thohgh is different. a child with a Jewish father can be recognized as Jewish. But they would need to be raised only within that faith.


The likelihood Meghan is Jewish, is slim to nun. Her father would have to be reform, and she would have only been able to attend synagogue. Seems unlikely she didn't attend church at times with her mother.

It is highly likely Meghan is neither. She may never have been baptized in her mothers church. She may have attended both synagogue and church with her parents.

It could also explain why her first marriage is secular. Unless married by a reformed Rabi, who recognized Meghan as Jewish, the wedding would be considered interfaith. And it is not easy at times to fund rabis willing to perform an interfaith. If they wanted a destination wedding, may have been even harder.


If she wasn't comfortable with the thought of being Anglican I font see her ever dating Harry. At her age, if you want to marry one day, you look for certain qualities in who you date. Like if they want kids or not. Or religious beliefs.

I just read the last few posts. What does this have to do with Harry and Meghan??
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:20 PM
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Do we know absolutely that Meghan's first wedding was 'secular'? The groom was Jewish and her father was as well.
I've seen one photo of the couple in the chair dance at the reception. I haven't seen any photos of the ceremony itself to see whether it was under the chuppa or if the groom smashed the glass at the end - things I've seen at every Jewish wedding I've attended.
In any event, if the couple does get married I'd lay odds that Meghan converts to Anglican - as I recall Princess Anne's DIL Autumn converted from Catholicism to Anglican prior to her wedding to Peter. Another similarity is that Autumn is from Canada and Meghan is currently based in Canada.
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:13 AM
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I just read the last few posts. What does this have to do with Harry and Meghan??
Just read back a bit further, American Observer. The question of religion is important to the BRF as the Queen is the Supreme Governor of the Church of England. Some of us have been discussing Meghan's possible religion as an adult and whether she would need to convert if and when she marries Harry.

I observed for example in an earlier post that Meghan is believed to have had a non-denominational wedding to a Jewish man. She also attended an RC girls school and a mod on another forum observed that she was known to have attended an LA synagogue earlier in her life. (I didn't get the impression btw that this was solely in childhood as the mod said 'several years ago'. Did she try and reconnect with Judaism again during her time with Trevor before their marriage? ) Meghan has never discussed her religious background as far as we know, but I believe the subject is relevant.

Are Jewish wedding ceremonies extremely short? One wedding guest reportedly said the ceremony part was all over in about 15 minutes then everybody headed to the reception and then the party. (It all took place on the beach.) I think if it had been a religious ceremony it would have taken Some time.
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