Does this not show precedence? http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=83154
kelly9480 said:There is nothing in Scotland that absolutely requires the monarch's presence. There's not a State Opening of Parliament. She's not likely to be asked to address Holyrood every year, or anything like that. She's not asked to open the General Synod in person, but is allowed to delegate that. Other than a garden party, and the Thistle ceremony, she isn't desperately required there. If something in Scotland absolutely had to be done by her, she'd be there. But she doesn't feel that she is absolutely required. And perhaps that's simply her perception of things, but it's not like Scots are in the streets demanding to see their Queen. Would it be nice if she were there more often? Yes, of course. But approval ratings seem to indicate they are perfectly happy with the job Anne is doing, and perhaps also Charles. They may like to see EIIR, but they may not be making that clear enough to her, her staff or the press.
Scotland is not a kindgom. It's part of a kingdom, but in no way can it be considered on par with Canada or Belize, independent kingdoms who also happen to share a monarch with the UK. She isn't Queen of Scots. She isn't even Queen of Scotland. She's Queen of the UK, which includes Scotland. She has never officially called herself Queen of Scots. To hold her to some standard as Queen of Scots, when she doesn't consider herself that is to ask for disappointment time and again.
In terms of workload, the Windsors are easily the greatest. They carry out more engagements than any of the others, though I would suspect Belgium and Spain compete for number 2. In terms of grandeur, they are the greatest, easily. No other monarchy in Europe can claim something like Windsor castle or the Coronation ceremony. In terms of being one of the ppl, they fall into the middle of the pack, depending on the family member. It depends on what a person is basing "greatest" on to say whether or not the Windsors are first.
ElisaR said:This is true. But he was a king. No reigning monarch has died since then (Rainier was a prince). Perhaps she would attend the funeral of a reigning king or queen.
Reina said:I kind of don't agree-they bring tourists (money) and make the UK and make the UK and other countries interesting.
I can see some random girl just going to Britain thinking that she will meet Prince William or Harry (somehow ), and it will be love at first sight, and they'll get married, and she'll become a Princess. Ok that's a little far fetched, but I was reading a biography about Grace Kelly and the author mentioned girls going to Monaco thinking they'll just pick up Prince Albert at a bar, and they'll all end up as the next Princess Grace.Sean.~ said:However, one could argue (and I don't necessarily subscribe to this position) that the tourists will still come & even more so if the RF wasn't there. They would most likely have access to all the palaces, historical sites, works of art, etc. Look at France and Russia. How many travel to those countries to Versailles, the Winter Palace, etc. ?
But I do agree that they do make things more interesting. At least for those of us who are interested in such things.
EmpressRouge said:I can see some random girl just going to Britain thinking that she will meet Prince William or Harry (somehow ), and it will be love at first sight, and they'll get married, and she'll become a Princess. Ok that's a little far fetched, but I was reading a biography about Grace Kelly and the author mentioned girls going to Monaco thinking they'll just pick up Prince Albert at a bar, and they'll all end up as the next Princess Grace.
More info please.kelly9480 said:she and Badouin reportedly had issues in the 1950s and 1960s
Well, Frederick actually went to Mary's homeland, but I see your point...Guess you really can pick up random princes at bars.Sean.~ said:Hey, it worked for Mary. ;-)
kelly9480 said:Badouin wouldn't attend her dad's funeral because Belgian protocol said he shouldn't go to a country until he'd been on a state visit in the country beforehand, but he'd just come to the throne months before her dad died. EIIR reportedly took umbrage at Belgium's lack of a representative and it simmered. Then he refused (like most other royals) to attend Margaret's wedding because of who she was marrying and EIIR got her own back by sending Margaret (and Tony) to his wedding.
Queen Elizabeth was just making a point.kelly9480 said:EIIR got her own back by sending Margaret (and Tony) to his wedding.
I understand why the Queen did not attend the funeral of Hirohito, but why she stayed away from the funerals of uncontroversial Scandinavian kings?Sean.~ said:I wouldn't bet on it. King Olav was also a reigning monarch at the time of his death, as was Furst Franz of Lichtenstein, but HM did not attend their funerals either. Nor did she attend those of King Frederick, King Gustav Adolf, King Paul, Emperor Hirohito etc. (to name a few).
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