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I've never been a big fan of all the rings....especially when they are so prominent as they were today.
LaRae
LaRae
I didn't mean my post in a negative way toward Meghan so I was a bit taken a back by your negative reaction. Of course, you're entitled to disagree with me, but I would've preferred a more civil manner and simple correction. I don't mean to say that this isn't the first time or give false information, tastes differ, that's all. We can all share our opinions. What I meant was it's similar to the colour tones she often wears, not the style or design of the coat specifically.
Manolo is a London based business even though the designer is Spanish. In fact, he started designing shoes for other English designers first, and then launched his own brand.Coat: Bespoke Givenchy Navy Coat (French - head designer British)
Heels: Manolo Blahnik BB Pump in Navy Suede (Spanish)
Bracelet: Pippa Small ‘Herkimer’ Bracelet (British)
Ring: Pippa Small ‘Herkimer’ Ring (British)
Earrings: Pippa Small ‘Herkimer’ Earrings (British)
Dress: Bespoke Givenchy Navy Dress (French - head designer British)
Clutch: Givenchy Clutch (French - head designer British)
Hat: Bespoke Noel Stewart Navy Cocktail Hat (British)
LaRae
While Meghan might not read some of the things that's been said about her, she's not stupid. I'm sure she's aware that people would automatically feel she's Hollywood even if she's wearing similar level of flashy looks as other royals. There is a bias because she came from an acting background.I think Meghan looked elegant, appropriate and understated at Eugenie's wedding. But I just feel her dark color (black and dark navy) choices have been so prevalent that it seems as if she's making a conscious and concerted effort to be low key, safe and conservative. I definitely felt the same way about her choice of the black dress with V-bodice design and sheer sleeves for her solo museum exhibit appearance recently. Again, she looked elegant, safe and conservative, but not very memorable for that first solo appearance.
I get the feeling that Duchess Meghan is still evolving sartorially as a royal, and that right now she seems to want more of the emphasis to be on the events and people she and Harry are supporting than on what she's wearing. She seems to feel comfortable in her clothes, at least on the surface, and what she's wearing are surely beautifully made outfits. It always feels great to wear luxuriously made attire. So she's probably not fretting too much about what royal observers think. She's trying to fit in with her new family and is apparently not interested in giving any impression of trying to steal the spotlight. The high level interest in her is already there. By being safe and boring sometimes perhaps she can mute and downplay some of the frenzy.
Plus, she obviously feels that black, dark navy, blue/aqua and variant shades of green (with sometimes cream and white) are her best colors. I think she looks great in red too, but she hasn't worn red for quite awhile. And she likely wouldn't wear too much red at gatherings with the Queen and the other royal ladies. Meghan has worn burgundy twice (last September at the Invictus games opening, and reportedly last December at a Windsor staff Christimas party). We've seen her in bright yellow once, and in pale pink and a deep shade of pink twice this past summer. Plus the camel-colored coat at Sandringham with the dark plum-colored velvet dress underneath.
That said, I still think that the interest in Meghan and in her timeless, casual style is having an impact. Cara Delevigne wearing a tuxedo with heels and a top hat to Eugenie's (breaking royal wedding protocol) reminds me of Meghan unexpectedly wearing a black McQueen tuxedo with heels at the Endeavor Awards earlier this year, when many observers were expecting her to wear a dress.
I will wait to see with everyone else, the style and color choices Meghan will make during the upcoming tour to the South Pacific...
Coat: Bespoke Givenchy Navy Coat (French - head designer British)
Heels: Manolo Blahnik BB Pump in Navy Suede (Spanish)
Bracelet: Pippa Small ‘Herkimer’ Bracelet (British)
Ring: Pippa Small ‘Herkimer’ Ring (British)
Earrings: Pippa Small ‘Herkimer’ Earrings (British)
Dress: Bespoke Givenchy Navy Dress (French - head designer British)
Clutch: Givenchy Clutch (French - head designer British)
Hat: Bespoke Noel Stewart Navy Cocktail Hat (British)
LaRae
While Meghan might not read some of the things that's been said about her, she's not stupid. I'm sure she's aware that people would automatically feel she's Hollywood even if she's wearing similar level of flashy looks as other royals. There is a bias because she came from an acting background.
And yes, the less they focus on her clothes, the more they focus on her work. One of the things I'm really impressed about the Together project. She was dressed like a normal person, and people weren't overly focused on her clothes, but rather the project itself and the women of Hubb Community Kitchen.
I remember that Diana was known for wearing British designers.
Was it before her a big deal if a royal wore British or foreign designs?
I think the previous generations of royals did not buy. They use to have their own designers lime the queen still has Angela Kelly. So there was no risk to end u with the same outfit worn by two ladies. Like it happened many times with the actual royals. Very often among Belgian and Nassau. Especially because of NathanI remember that Diana was known for wearing British designers.
Was it before her a big deal if a royal wore British or foreign designs?
If the WhatMeghanWore.Net is to be believed, the gloves were Prada as well.
Anyways, spin as you will, but it is essentially a few British accessories and a hat to compliment her Givenchy (as French as they come!) ensemble.
Manolo is a London based business even though the designer is Spanish. In fact, he started designing shoes for other English designers first, and then launched his own brand.
I'm going to chime in here. One of the reason to wear 'British' is to expose British brands, and also to hopefully generate some income in hopes that the public will shop at these brands. I've said this before, but I think it's worth restating. There is no way in he.. the normal person is going out to purchase every high profile outfit any members of BRF wears, especially if it costs more than 1,000 Pounds. What sells the most are the accessories, the items that are more readily available (shoes, handbags, sweaters, etc.). I don't know any 'normal' person, the majority of the public who would go out and buy an Erdem, an Expensive Burberry dress or suit, McQueen or even Givenchy just because any member of the BRF wears it.
There is this expectation that if the DoS were to all of sudden begin 'wearing' British brands that revenues would increase, which is not always the case. I also put 'wear' in quotes because let's face it, she does wear British, however there are some who think that her accessories don't count. What sells the most are her coats, jewellery, handbags and shoes. And these are precisely the items where she wears British. That's where the revenue is generating from.
Personally, from my perspective, if the DoS was to all of sudden be seen in majority British brands, I cannot imagine what would be said of her and I can just imagine the comments. Right now, she is doing a mixture a both, and I don't expect to see a swift change from that to mostly British. I think that we will continue to see a mixture of Commonwealth, British, American and of course her trusted Clare Waight Keller for the foreseeable future. And that is alright with me.
I think she could do a better job of promoting British brands. And I think it does a disservice to British fashion when everyone confuses what is considered British or not. Even if everyday people don’t wear some of the high end items there is a definite boost to the industry when royal women wear British fashion. I don’t think everything has to be British. I don’t think Muriel is saying that either but it is fair point to say that she could wear more and that Manolo and Givenchy don’t count. Also British accessories are nice but I’d like to see British clothing some too.
Whether "normal" or supra-normal people wear British fashion, is not for me to debate. What is clear to me is that it is a big industry in this country. The sector made a direct contribution of £28bn to the UK GDP last year, and employs around 55,000 people in the UK. Not all of it is purely at a high price point. Dresses by Reiss and LK Bennett contribute to the success of the sector just as much as those by McQueen or Stella McCartney.
Exposure to British designers provided by the ladies of the BRF can be invaluable in helping expand "Britain PLC". As I see it, it is a real shame that Meghan repeatedly fails to support British business and continues to provide her custom to the international fashion houses instead. In the time she has been married, I would be surprised if she has worn dresses or clothes by British designers more than 2-3 times. Perhaps she will eventually see the error of her ways in time.
It's true that Meghan wears British or UK based accessories, but the headline is never "Duchess of Sussex attends Trooping wearing Pippa Small earrings!" Aside from a dedicated fandom, most people neither know nor care what handbags, jewelry or underwear the royal ladies may be wearing. What is noticed and reported on in general is the largest and most visible item of clothing, be it dress, suit, coat or gown. That's why it matters when any of the royal ladies is consistently is choosing not to highlight British labels. None of the BR ladies wear everything British except possibly HMQ, and it doesn't seem to be expected. With the DoS, it's becoming fairly obvious that she is choosing not to give her business to British labels, and it's inevitable that this is going to be noticed, commented on, and will be resented by some. She can and will do what she wants, of course, but all of the choices she is making will be noticed, and over time will affect the way she is perceived. I'm still hoping that over time she'll find some British designers who suit her aesthetic, and who she can develop a great relationship with. Adding them into the mix, even occasionally, would be smart PR.
You are correct, however, there is publicity and there is the bottom line. Her clothes will garner the headlines, but it's her accessories that sells. It's the same for almost any royal, especially if the McQueen is 5000 Pounds, the Givenchy 6,000 Euros or the Ralph Lauren is $2,000. Unless it's a coat, no normal person is going to drop money like than on a dress they wear maybe once a year, and 2-5 times in their lifetime. Accessories, coats, shoes, bags, etc all have lasting appeal and you wear most often if you choose the right silhouette or if you're Princess Anne.
I tend to agree with you that, in general, Meghan is doing well to wear more sober and demure clothing as she settles into her new role. This allows her to get comfortable in her new role, and for the focus to be on her work and the event they they are supporting rather than her sartorial choices. All of this, to me, displays a good "EQ" level.
Given this "understanding", I find Meghan's unwillingness to wear British fashion even more baffling, and frankly, unedifying. Posters may argue that she is wearing the odd British accessory here or there, but what is clear is that since the wedding, she has hardly ever worn British designers.
The bolded is so true, and in that case you wear it for the next 40 years!
I don't disagree with what you are saying about the wearability and accessibility of the handbags, shoes, etc. It's a good point. I think the problem is that we are essentially talking about two different things. What I, and I think some others who bring it up on this thread are talking about is that when DoS married into the BRF she took on a whole series of jobs, some of which are very visible, and some of which are ill defined, subtle and largely symbolic. "Dressing British," or "flying the flag" has always been part of that role, and not doing that is going to get pushback.
It’s funny before Meghan everyone knew and accepted British royals for the most part wore British brands. There was no debate over what made a brand British.
But it seems with the arrival of Meghan, the definition of a British brand is being stretch to include fashion that clearly isn’t.
I’m not one writing the headlines. Meghan’s been called on it by not just tabloids like the DM, but by broadsheet newspapers like the Telegraph and the Times.
That's because no one made a big deal of BFR women wearing non-British brands until a British Prince choose to marry a non-British woman, and some started showing their hypocrisy. You can't lambast someone for doing something, while excusing others because..., well because whatever your reasonings are.
Or was it more a case that this was never an issue previously? All the ladies of the BRF have largely worn British brands. I am not suggesting that they have not, on occassion, worn foreign designers, but by and large, you seem them in clothes by British brands. No hypocrisy here, its just the same standard being applied to Meghan.
The issue is that there is no evidence of her trying British fashion since the wedding at all. And it is not that she had a close working relationship with Hgivenchy for years before her wedding.Actually it's not the same standards. The DoS wore tons of British brands during her engagement, and some won't give her credit. After her wedding, she chooses to TRUST her wedding dress designer to dress her for big events while sprinkling British, American and Commonwealth designers, and some want to crucify her for it, although it hasn't even been 6 months.
The excuses, 'well they're British, so the rule doesn't apply, or they have been a royal for years.' Can we afford the DoS then to be given time to build those relationships and trusts needed to garner support from one or two British courtiers to be her second go to? Personally, I love what CWK does for her, and I think the DoS should definitely stick with her whether she chooses to stay at Givenchy or another fashion house or create her own line.
The issue is that there is no evidence of her trying British fashion since the wedding at all. And it is not that she had a close working relationship with Hgivenchy for years before her wedding.