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Old 10-19-2015, 01:25 PM
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Sky News ‏@SkyNews 26m26 minutes ago
Prince William: "My ancestors were among those who had little concern about acquiring ivory" but times have changed
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/656135144818896896

Kensington Palace ‏@KensingtonRoyal 12m12 minutes ago
The Duke's rejection of ivory "not a judgement of past generations" but "an acceptance of ...the world I want my children to inherit."
I like how he made that connection, showing that he wasn't standing there trying to lecture anyone. Very clever
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Old 10-19-2015, 01:39 PM
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A speech by The Duke of Cambridge on the illegal wildlife trade for Chinese television
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Old 10-19-2015, 02:47 PM
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IMO it was wise of him to speak directly to the families that would be watching this speech tonight and to address the ivory trade of today and not the past. He acknowledges his own family's participation in the collection of ivory.
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Old 10-19-2015, 02:54 PM
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IMO it was wise of him to speak directly to the families that would be watching this speech tonight and to address the ivory trade of today and not the past. He acknowledges his own family's participation in the collection of ivory.
I agree. The whole speech was very well balanced!
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Old 10-19-2015, 03:43 PM
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The Duke of Cambridge has given a speech on the illegal ivory trade, broadcast on state TV in China, ahead of the arrival of the country's president in the UK on Monday evening for a state visit-

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Old 10-19-2015, 04:02 PM
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The Duke of Cambridge and Conservation Efforts

I love that William's speech was geared towards families, whether the ones who are hurt by the illegal poaching, or the ones who may have benefitted from it in the past. He was very passionate, and I think his point came across quite well.



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Old 10-19-2015, 04:20 PM
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Addressing the problem with families and consumers was a great move, as was highlighting the daily poaching and killing of rangers. Also, bringing up the tourism angle was good--what will happen to the people living in regions with endangered animals--this will be a world-wide issue one day very soon.
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Old 10-19-2015, 04:37 PM
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Addressing the problem with families and consumers was a great move, as was highlighting the daily poaching and killing of rangers. Also, bringing up the tourism angle was good--what will happen to the people living in regions with endangered animals--this will be a world-wide issue one day very soon.
I agree. The composing of this speech was exemplary. A speech that could be brought up to tech speech writing. It was personalized, it was clear statistics, it was powerful, not condecending or lecturing, it was easy to understand. A superb speech in my book, and a good delivery by William.
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Old 10-20-2015, 01:43 AM
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This speech .... and I believe this State visit... is a watershed moment for William. He was owning his future. I was in awe watching that speech - along with a very personal and passionate message - William has made great strides in his oratory skills - displaying a strong command presence... a significant step from the nervous fractured remarks on that first Canadian tour after the wedding. I couldn't help but thinking of those closest to him all watching make this speech from various vantage points and their pride... his wife, his father, his grandfather and of course his grandmother. In the past 5 years William has grown into a man, a husband, a father and a leader.
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Old 10-20-2015, 02:12 AM
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Old 10-20-2015, 05:07 AM
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This speech .... and I believe this State visit... is a watershed moment for William. He was owning his future. I was in awe watching that speech - along with a very personal and passionate message - William has made great strides in his oratory skills - displaying a strong command presence... a significant step from the nervous fractured remarks on that first Canadian tour after the wedding. I couldn't help but thinking of those closest to him all watching make this speech from various vantage points and their pride... his wife, his father, his grandfather and of course his grandmother. In the past 5 years William has grown into a man, a husband, a father and a leader.
I agree. It feels like he has arrived! He had such a presence! Very impressive!
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Prince William and Chinese President discuss illegal wildlife trade - ITV News
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:17 AM
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Today, The Duke of Cambridge attended the signing of a memorandum to help rangers fight poaching in Africa
https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/...87147945594880


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The Royal Foundation, @united4wildlife and Sanpower will work together to save a number of iconic species
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#CCTV1 #tonight 10:38 The Duke: “We are far from powerless in this struggle. We can turn the tide of extinction”

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Old 10-27-2015, 01:32 AM
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Appalling is the best word to describe William's performance.

William really should have educated himself before making his speech. His imperialist speech was both inaccurate, condescending and offensive.

Europeans are the main cause of endangered species. These species have been endangered long before a few people of color wanted to make a bit of money to support their families.

William should be talking to his own kind. Europeans who trophy hunt. They are the main reason animals are extinct or endangered.

Animals are extinct or endanger because of Westerns. Take a look at western museums, they are filled with animals. Then visit the zoos and sea parks, until recently nearly every animal in a zoo, park, or circus was acquired from the wild.

In the 1800s and 1900s, Westerns killed millions and millions of animals for their collection. Some were place in museums, others in private collections or homes. Below is a sample from two museums in Chicago. Every major western city had several museums with massive amounts of dead animals. The Field Museum is ranked 5th or 6th in number of dead animals. The British museums were the top trophy hunters.
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The Field Museum has 26 million artifacts and specimens, only 1% of which are on public display.
https://www.fieldmuseum.org/science/...h/area/animals
https://www.fieldmuseum.org/science/...nimals-history
https://www.fieldmuseum.org/theodore...rmit-roosevelt

The museum has 19.5 million zoological specimens from around the world.
Approximately 4.1 million pinned insects and 8 million specimens of insects and other arthropods.
Over 278,000 amphibian and reptiles
500,000 bird eggs
500, 000 bird specimens
1.7 million fish
209,000 mammals

In 1924, the Roosevelts, collected over two thousand specimens of small mammals, bird and reptiles, along with seventy large mammals.
In 1928, the Roosevelts, collected forty big mammals, two thousand small mammals, six thousand birds and reptiles, and amazingly the giant panda.

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The Chicago Academy of Sciences was founded in 1857 so nature aficionados and amateur scientists could study and share the specimens they collected. The scientific collection grew exponentially in both size and importance. So much so, that by 1870 the Academy had one of the most significant museum collections in the entire nation.
13,800 birds
11,100 bird eggs and nests
5,100 mammals
22,800 amphibian and reptiles
68,500 insects
109,200 mollusks

The British museums and zoos were filled with animals from Asia and Africa. They were the top trophy hunters. Note the map of where most of the collection comes from.
The NHM in London has 29 million animal specimens.

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William can take note that trophy hunters did not stop a hundred years ago, but continued even through the first and second world wars.
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Old 10-27-2015, 05:06 AM
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William was talking about what has to be done now and in future to protect wildlife - he can't change the past.... only regret it - and that he did.
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William was talking about what has to be done now and in future to protect wildlife - he can't change the past.... only regret it - and that he did.
Exactly. He even mentioned that his own ancestors where the ones involved with it.
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Old 10-27-2015, 11:36 AM
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Way back in the early stages of colonizing the Americas, the plentiful amounts of forest land provided much needed wood to the countries and peoples of Europe who had, over the years, severely used up their resources as the need increased. Over time, mankind through research and development were able to find solutions for diseases that killed too many such as smallpox, influenza and polio. A lot of things that were needed and acceptable then, are a danger to not only ourselves but our entire ecosystem now. We learn as we progress. We cannot ever change what has happened in the past but we're intelligent enough to realize that sometimes things need to be done to preserve and protect things that we may no longer have unless we actively do something now.

This is basically William's message. Unless something is done now, endangered species most likely be only viewed in museums as the dinosaur is today. The past actions only got us to the point where things are now and its now that we make the choice how it plays out in the future.

Think of it this way. About 40 some years ago, aerosol spray deodorant was used on a daily basis by a large percentage of people. It was after we realized that these sprays are harmful to our planet's ozone layer that steps were taken to ban aerosol sprays in all countries in 1978.

Its not what we did to cause the problem, its what we decide to do to eliminate the problem that has meaning.
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Old 10-27-2015, 05:30 PM
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William tried to distance himself by stating 'until a 100 years ago my ancestors'. His ancestors were killing big game more recently so this was a lie.

William was mute when the German killed a large elephant and the American dentist killed the lion.

He is silent when trophy hunters, like himself, do the killing.

A dead elephant is one less elephant regardless if it was killed for a trophy for the game room or for ivory or ground up for 'medicine'.
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Old 10-27-2015, 11:01 PM
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100 years? I take it he was referencing George V's slaughter of Indian wildlife during the Delhi Durbar tour of 1911 - 39 tigers, 18 rhinocerus and 4 bears in 10 days. However he is conveniently overlooking his grandfather shooting a tiger in India in 1961. (An interesting sidenote is that the Queen had requested a calf be provided to be used as bait, but Nehru turned her down, declining to give permission for any animal to be sacrificed for that purpose.) Philip nevertheless potted the tiger, and there is a fine photo of him and HM and the rest of the party proudly standing behind the dead tiger. I don't believe William is not aware of that incident.
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