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Old 02-09-2007, 03:36 AM
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I think I saw on the television (Danish TV2) that from her 1.9 Million Kroner yearly allowance she will from now on have to pay 1.3 Million Kroner in taxes. And they said, even with a fairly well-paid husband, it could be difficult for her to keep her current high society level of living. She will have to take on some high profile chairmanship (like the Red Cross or the Refuge Aid) to make both ends meet. (their speculation)

Do they really strip her for that much money just in taxes ??

Anyway, I agree with Lasse, this position is better than the 'phase-out' princess / countess thing.

I'm puzzled that Martin is willing to take on this parenting stuff. I just hope he does it for love, not just because he wants a free ride with professional engagements based on his status, or because he feels guilty for his past and wants to make a mends with these boys.

His parental record so far doesn't exactly impress me.

1.9 Million Kroner ~ 300,000 US$
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:06 AM
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Do they really strip her for that much money just in taxes ??
Not only her - they strip all of us in this manner!
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:25 AM
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Not only her - they strip all of us in this manner!
I knew Danish taxes were high, but this is like 70%
So every time you earn a Million you only get to keep 300,000

In Sweden they stop the stripping at 55%.
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:55 AM
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I knew Danish taxes were high, but this is like 70%
So every time you earn a Million you only get to keep 300,000

In Sweden they stop the stripping at 55%.
In Denmark you pay the higher tax the more you earn!

The lowest rate is 40% for students and poor people. This is what all danes pay as a starting point. If you earn more than the low rate then your tax go up. So if you are really rich you often pay the top-tax around 60% (but then you are also able to subtract a lot of things so in reality you end up paying a lesser sum)...

But YES! - the danish tax is way to high!

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Old 02-09-2007, 04:56 AM
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she must love him very much,she is giving up quite a lot for him !
hope they both be very happy !
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:01 AM
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I knew Danish taxes were high, but this is like 70%
So every time you earn a Million you only get to keep 300,000

In Sweden they stop the stripping at 55%.
It's not just the top-tax they factor in, but the fact that she also have to pay VAT on everything now, as well as pay property tax, and other natural taxes that the rest of us pay. Considering that VAT (Value-Added Tax) is 25% on books, DVDs, etc. in Denmark, it is quite a bit.
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:03 AM
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Aha. I don't think it stops at 60%, does it?

You think she will have to pay taxes on her house and the soil it stands on? I've heard real estate taxes can be pretty massive too.

I wouldn't be surprised if we even get to see this former highness stamp a coupon card entering a public bus at some point in the future.
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:15 AM
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no matter what the people posted before me..i like alex and i like her becaus she always seems to do what SHE like..and thats great ..(everyone should act that way
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:32 AM
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I think if both of them are happy well let them get on with it.

My gran's second husband is 13 years younger than her and they are still married.

Most people wouldn't bat an eyelid if Martin was 13 years older than Alex. It is apparently more acceptable if the man is older than the woman but not the other way around (ie Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt and even Michael Douglas whose wives or partners are younger than them).

Although it does help that Alex doesn't really look 13 years older that Martin, she is still fit, healthy, thin and attractive. (Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher seem to be OK)
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:34 AM
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Aha. I don't think it stops at 60%, does it?

You think she will have to pay taxes on her house and the soil it stands on? I've heard real estate taxes can be pretty massive too.

I wouldn't be surprised if we even get to see this former highness stamp a coupon card entering a public bus at some point in the future.
Estate taxes can really hurt! Especially in the area she lives in now. But then there have been speculations in the media that the DKK 7m+ value of the estate probably have already risen to at least DKK 15m during the steep rise in property value in recent years - so Alexandra may do as all Danes seem to be doing - borrowing against the value of your property
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Old 02-09-2007, 08:15 AM
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Alex must love Martin very much so she would like to sacrifice her financial advantages being a Her Highness.
I hope that Martin also loves her so much.
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:13 AM
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Alex must love Martin very much so she would like to sacrifice her financial advantages being a Her Highness.
I hope that Martin also loves her so much.
This is a point well taken.
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:32 AM
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In Denmark you pay the higher tax the more you earn!

The lowest rate is 40% for students and poor people. This is what all danes pay as a starting point. If you earn more than the low rate then your tax go up. So if you are really rich you often pay the top-tax around 60% (but then you are also able to subtract a lot of things so in reality you end up paying a lesser sum)...

But YES! - the danish tax is way to high!

Really rich??? Thats gotta be the joke of the day. Everyone earning more than 318.700 pays the "top tax"...That 40% of all working Danes....

So naturally that goes for Alex aswelll...
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:46 AM
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I don't think everybody deserves happiness, but I'm sure Alexandra does! Which is exactly why I worry about her choice.
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Well I won't touch the first part of that statement but I'm sure that Alexandra is a grown woman perfectly capable of taking care of herself.

If she makes the wrong decision with Martin, I'm sure she'll handle it with the same aplomb and self-assurance she handled the breakdown of her relationship with Joachim.

But since you speak of Fergie, I think there is an unspoken assumption that Alexandra wants to hold onto her royal status. I'm not quite sure that she does. If that's the case, I think that even if Martin turns out to be the wrong man for Alexandra for the rest of her life, he may still be just the right man for Alexandra at this time of her life. If by marrying her he is able to make it easy for her to make a break with the royal lifestyle and re-claim her own identity as a non-royal working woman, that may be his greatest contribution that Alexandra needs at the time.

Financially it will hurt but I'm assuming that most people in Denmark get along just fine without the financial advantages that Alexandra has enjoyed as a royal princess and I'm sure she will be able to survive also.

She also has the advantage (if I understand correctly) of not having to work for this money. Its hers whatever she does or doesn't do. So she can go back into the working world and draw a salary that make her income even higher.
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Old 02-09-2007, 11:54 AM
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40%!!!! And we people complain about the taxes here...
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Old 02-09-2007, 01:39 PM
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Congratulations to the both of them - I hope they'll be happy together.
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:11 PM
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Ysbel, I agree. There may be something to that - that Martin is a convenient husband for this time in her life. Frankly, women age faster than men and therefore to me a woman being 14 years older is not a recipe for long-term success.

Alexandra has an excellent deal from the Queen - a noble title, a stipend, and the Order of the Elephant which comes with significant perks. Now she moves to a situation where all she has - title, jewels, money - are sua juris, her own right.

I don't think much of Martin's dealings with his daughter, nor do I think the age difference can be glossed over with hope. But it seems that Alex is a determined woman and she moves now to having everything under her own steam. She may also dislike the royal tag. Certainly Prince Edward, for example, did not wish it on his daughter. Not everybody that's "been there", as you say, sees it as universally desireable.

I think I could probably struggle through with it though!
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:33 PM
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Denmark is a well-functioning country because of these taxes, I could imagine ..
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Old 02-09-2007, 07:36 PM
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Ysbel, I agree. There may be something to that - that Martin is a convenient husband for this time in her life. Frankly, women age faster than men and therefore to me a woman being 14 years older is not a recipe for long-term success.
Ah, that's an interesting thought, Frothy. I always thought of men aging faster than women. Guys certainly LOOK older sooner but I guess its because they lose their hair in their 30s and 40s (and sometimes even sooner)

I think an age difference is tough no matter who is younger. My sister married a man 13 years older and she told me people are teasing her husband that she's going to run off with another man anytime soon. It doesn't make things easier for them.

But Alexandra has always preferred younger men, right? Joachin was a few years younger, though not as young as Martin.

I think the only way I'd like a royal title is if I had a decent royal husband to go along with it. I imagine the royals are so isolated even when they mingle with non-royals. Its hard to treat a HRH the same way you'd treat a regular person you meet at a party. If I was going to be that isolated from the regular population, I'd sure want to have a decent and fulfilling relationship with the people who ARE royal to make up for it.
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Old 02-09-2007, 08:47 PM
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There is a nice little article on Ekstra Bladet where they have met Martin bringing Nikolai to school. He seems like a kind stepdad and he calls Felix for 'skat' - the danish word for 'darling'...
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