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Old 09-08-2008, 04:33 PM
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It is understandable that Queen Elizabeth can not have the same opportunities to visit Australia as CP Mary has. That dosen't make her a lesser Queen. I for one hold her in high regard. As far as I can understand from reading the tread about the CP Couples visit to Australia the Australien media have made a lot of fuss about it, which I think is only natural as CP Mary used to be an Austrailan commoner.

If Prince William went to visit Denmark my guess is that the Danish media would follow every step he took - and let us pretend he got himself a Danish girlfriend (a commoner) and later on married her - then my guess is that the Danish media would get overwhelmingly exhilarsted whenever she went to visit her Danish family...............
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:24 PM
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Some would disagree with you Lilla, that it doesn't make her a lesser Queen of Australia.

The Queen's last visit was in March of 2006 when she came to Canberra and then onto to Melbourne for the Commonwealth Games. Charles's last visit was in 2005, not all that long before he wed Camilla I believe (it was quite a short visit if I recall rightly and I think Mary and Frederik where here at the same time..don't quote me on it).

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One of the hassles of being a foreign monarch...

The British royals would certainly still get attention, more because they are members of the worlds most publicized family.

Mary gets attention because she's walked among as and has lived as one of us.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:42 PM
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Some would disagree with you Lilla, that it doesn't make her a lesser Queen of Australia.
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You are right Madame Royale, and I can certainly not speak on behalf of any Australian. I can only speak on behalf of myselfe and I do hold QEII in high regard.

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Mary gets attention because she's walked among as and has lived as one of us.
Yes, and for me, a Dane, she is the reason why Australia has become a nation very close to my heart.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:07 PM
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Do you think Mary and Frederik will still travel to Thailand in November given the country's recent political crisis? I know it is only a 2 day trip, but is it worth it?
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:00 PM
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Some would disagree with you Lilla, that it doesn't make her a lesser Queen of Australia.

The Queen's last visit was in March of 2006 when she came to Canberra and then onto to Melbourne for the Commonwealth Games. Charles's last visit was in 2005, not all that long before he wed Camilla I believe (it was quite a short visit if I recall rightly and I think Mary and Frederik where here at the same time..don't quote me on it).
You're right, they were in Australia at the same time, I remember watching a youtube clip where someone had put up some news reports and they commented on the attention (& appeal I think) of Mary vs. Charles.

Sorry I cant post a link, because I'm down to dial up (used up broadband allowance already) but it was called something like "Mary's Australian Visit" and there were a good 3 or 4 clips.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:39 PM
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You are right Madame Royale, and I can certainly not speak on behalf of any Australian. I can only speak on behalf of myselfe and I do hold QEII in high regard.
Oh of course. I entirely understand that it was your opinion, and one I happen to share myself...

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Yes, and for me, a Dane, she is the reason why Australia has become a nation very close to my heart.
Now that's a truly lovely thing to say. I think there are many Australian's who think very favourably of Denmark, too. All you have to do is look at how many of us have since started to visit your quaint and noble kingdom...
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:49 AM
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Hello, could please some Danish member translate. Are both articles the same history?
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http://www.berlingske.dk/article/200...tik/810060368/
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:47 AM
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Hello, could please some Danish member translate. Are both articles the same history?
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Folkeafstemning om tronflgerloven - Politik
Hi Paty - yes it is the same subject - the succession to the throne. A permanent change in the law of succession requires a change to the constitution - which is a long and rather bothersome process (the process is discussed at the SRMB The Scandinavian Royals Message Board). There has been very few changes to the Danish constitution because of the complicated process - the last one being in 1953 when then Princess Margrethe was allowed to succeed her father.

A change requires approval by two consecutive parliaments (of which the first has been given) and a national referendum where 2/3 of all eligible voters have to say 'yes' - this means that if you do not show up at the polls, your non-vote counts as a no vote. Now the goverment has decided that when we are to go to the polls on 7th June to vote for the European Parliament, we are going to vote whether we want gender-independent succession rights as well.

I think there is no doubt that the vast majority wants equal succession rights - the dangerous thing is to attach it to an EU vote which always has poor voter participation compared to national elections. In this way the non-voters may carry the day.

Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the Prime Minister, wants this vote to be a vote on the principle of equal succession and not let it depend on a person. Since we know that Christian will once succeed his dad, some politicians wants this lengthy procedure done with in good time before Christian has children of his own.
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Old 10-06-2008, 09:57 AM
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I thought that the Danish constitution already has equal succesion right, as Queen Marghrette is succes to his father.

Also I think its very unfair that the non-voters counts as No vote, why? They must count as no-voter
I agrree with you, also in Spain the Europeans ellections has always very poor voters.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:04 AM
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I thought that the Danish constitution already has equal succesion right, as Queen Marghrette is succes to his father.

Also I think its very unfair that the non-voters counts as No vote, why? They must count as no-voter
I agrree with you, also in Spain the Europeans ellections has always very poor voters.
No, the addition to the constitution in 1953 allowed Margrethe to succeed to the throne only if she had no brothers - which she hadn't. The present system still favours a younger brother over an elder sister.

With regard to the non-voters I suppose it is because it is stipulated that changes to the constitution must be approved by 2/3 of all Danes entitled to vote. By this logic everyone who does not vote yes (or just does not show up at the polls), votes no.

I wonder what they will do to encourage more voters to appear at the polls for this election.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:07 AM
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In Holland people who don't vote, vote "blanco". Strange that they count your "non vote" as a no in Denmark. Not really democratic if you ask me. If I bothered to vote "no" I would have made a trip to the polling station, wouldn't you?
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In Holland people who don't vote, vote "blanco".
Same thing in Spain. Not very democratic.

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No, the addition to the constitution in 1953 allowed Margrethe to succeed to the throne only if she had no brothers - which she hadn't. The present system still favours a younger brother over an elder sister.

With regard to the non-voters I suppose it is because it is stipulated that changes to the constitution must be approved by 2/3 of all Danes entitled to vote. By this logic everyone who does not vote yes (or just does not show up at the polls), votes no.

I wonder what they will do to encourage more voters to appear at the polls for this election.

Oh, yes...I forgot that they are only three sisters.
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:02 AM
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In Holland people who don't vote, vote "blanco". Strange that they count your "non vote" as a no in Denmark. Not really democratic if you ask me. If I bothered to vote "no" I would have made a trip to the polling station, wouldn't you?
Also, if the vote is about a change to the constitution?

A non-vote in an 'ordinary' election does not count as a no vote. But - as already stated - in this particular instance of taking a vote on a constitutional change it does.
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Old 10-06-2008, 04:16 PM
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Wow! That is very strict. What do they do for elderly people, or people who are travelling and unable to get to the polls?
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Old 10-06-2008, 04:42 PM
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Wow! That is very strict. What do they do for elderly people, or people who are travelling and unable to get to the polls?
They can vote by post. Futhermore if a person is severely disabled, socialworkers can provide whatever assistance/aid is needed for this person to be able to exercise his/her democratic right to vote.
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Old 10-06-2008, 04:49 PM
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Thank you for the answer, Lilla. I was wondering how and if accommodations were made.
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Old 10-09-2008, 04:28 AM
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Most important princess

You will love this: Princess Mary was voted most important european princess by BUNTE , a german yellow press magazine. Why? I have no idea..:
BUNTE – Das Heft Nr. 42: Inhaltsverzeichnis - BUNTE
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I wonder what their interpretation of "important" is.
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Old 10-09-2008, 05:17 AM
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Unfortunately there was no reason or explanation given on their site. You have to buy the magazine. Does anyone know more about that article?
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Old 10-09-2008, 05:34 AM
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What does that mean, exactly?
When it comes to gentlemenness Fred isn't the first man on earth that comes into my mind. If you're his wife/girlfriend don't expect too much...Well he never had to work on that , there never was a problem of getting a new girlfriend, the girls were there anyway...
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