Until there is more information coming out the public is going to be treated to these tidbits
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Beatrices-18th-birthday.html#comments-7439679
The press is determined to taint the whole House of York on this scandal one way or the other. If evidence comes out that Andrew did know about Epstein's crimes before the arrest the questions will be how could you expose your daughters to this monster? The 400000.00 for the birthday party is an extra stick to use.
Until there is more information coming out the public is going to be treated to these tidbits
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Beatrices-18th-birthday.html#comments-7439679
The press is determined to taint the whole House of York on this scandal one way or the other. If evidence comes out that Andrew did know about Epstein's crimes before the arrest the questions will be how could you expose your daughters to this monster? The 400000.00 for the birthday party is an extra stick to use.
You have the right of it. There is no way either Andrew or Sarah would ever have exposed their beloved daughters to a paedophile.Andrew would not have invited anyone whom he thought would abuse his daughters.
I'm inclined to believe his story that he hadn't seen Epstein involved in crime and possibly Epstein was a very successful and charismatic financial adviser.
How bright is Andrew?
Wow, Virginia Giuffre, and other Epstein accusers, gives an interview and she describes Prince Andrew having sex with her-
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...scribes-having-sex-Prince-Andrew-aged-17.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline
He will just it or say he didn't know she was 17 at the time.
I hate to say this but I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that she could have walked out and into a police station or back to her family at any time.
Then you don't understand the power of brainwashing on a very young girl who, most likely, had a difficult childhood. This girl was abused by powerful people and probably felt she did not have choices. From your standpoint, just getting up and walking away appears easy but, trust me, it's not that way when you're on the inside. Maybe she didn't have family; maybe she didn't trust the police. I don't know, but it's not all that easy. She was getting food and shelter from these people. Maybe her only other choice was living on the street.
I hate to say this but I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that she could have walked out and into a police station or back to her family at any time.
I accept and understand what you say. And, as I said, I have a hard time with this. I am not excusing his behavior nor his association with some a heinous man.
It's a very similar phenomenon to the one where individuals stay in an abusive relationship: lack of self worth, fear of what the abuser will do to them if they are caught, desire to please the abuser, lack of awareness of options, lack of a support group, lack of money (resources), nowhere to do.....The list goes on. Add to this the reality that Epstein had the money to make problems disappear, and apparently did so successfully for quite a few years. All of the victims would have known that. How comfortable would most ordinary people be in taking on someone with Epstein's money and contacts? He had a prince and other well-known and influential people as friends.
He will just it or say he didn't know she was 17 at the time.
I hate to say this but I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that she could have walked out and into a police station or back to her family at any time.
Think of the case of kidnapped victims staying with their abusers even if the door is unlocked and they are no longer chained. It is that Stockholm syndrome effect. Desperation, fear, and complete lack of self worth will do a lot to one's mental state. This is why a lot of people stay with their abusers knowing it will never end.
The whole scénario is irresponsible and shows poor judgement. A prince of the blood should be 'squeaky clean' in all that he does.
As somebody that has been through an abusive relationship to a much lesser degree than Ms. Guiffre, I can attest to these facts. Self esteem and self worth are very low and it seems like there is absolutely no way out that one can survive in and one sometimes looks outside oneself to find different ways of "coping" and pushing what is so wrong to the far recesses of the mind. It takes a lot of strength and courage and a good support system sometimes to even gain a backbone strong enough to walk away and say "no more". I was one of the lucky ones.
I, personally, would not hold Andrew responsible at all for the use and abuse these girls went through as he was, more or less, an outsider and perhaps even an infrequent visitor. The blame falls solely on Epstein and those that aided and abetted in procuring these girls. Still, if Andrew actually knew what was going on and didn't say anything, its on him. Then again, perhaps even his "friendship" with Epstein could have had control factors in it whereas Andrew was prevented from calling the man out. We just don't know at this point. Its been mentioned before that Epstein had a lot of "dirt" he could use to expose the rich and the famous should he be crossed. It seemed easy enough for Epstein to wangle that "sweetheart" deal and continue his lifestyle as he pleased.
I can't believe "Lady" Colin Campbell defends Andrew. Check Dan Wootton's tweet. I don't think I am allowed to post the tweet here?
Well, the whole thing is what the old aristocratic world are used to and some will defend it. Campbell’s brains has always been on vacation.
Here’s a link to an article which covers the dateline show airing tonight & touches on some of the victims’ explanations for why they were caught up in and remained so long in Epstein’s web. https://news.google.com/articles/CA...vIaCCzDnxf4CMN2F8gU?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:enI hate to say this but I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that she could have walked out and into a police station or back to her family at any time.
The whole scénario is irresponsible and shows poor judgement. A prince of the blood should be 'squeaky clean' in all that he does.