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Weren't they in the States last year as well celebrating Thanksgiving as a family? So, that would make it the second time?!
Weren't they in the States last year as well celebrating Thanksgiving as a family? So, that would make it the second time?!
I'm certainly not surprised....
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrit...dness-for-meghan-and-harry-after-miscarriage/
There's also this:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/megha...riage-op-ed-in-the-new-york-times-with-royals
Neither am I.
And for Meghan, being biracial herself, the killings of black people by the police is a deeply disturbing thing and I don't think she feels ok when she thinks about that. She doesn't feel ok when she thinks about the management of the pandemic and how it badly affected so many people. The miscarriage was her very personal low in 2020 but there are other things to mention, things that could have gone easier on a lot of people if only we all responded in kindness and with the willingness to help.
Two - George Floyd and Breonna Taylor’s death were traumatic and painful for many people. When people who look like you and are killed for no other reason reason than they look like you, it will do something to your soul - and the fact that we were dealing with a soul crushing pandemic with the deceased into the 100,000s, a global recession, and (in this country) a divisive political situation made it ten times worse.
I think treating those things as equivalent to a miscarriage illustrates the problem with this her expectations, though. Sympathizing with someone who’s had a miscarriage is a no-brainer if you’re close enough to have any kind of emotional connection with that person. There’s not room for any factual or moral disagreement about whether they had a miscarriage or whether having a miscarriage is sad. But if you ask someone “Are you ok?” and the answer you get is something politically loaded like “No, I’m not ok because Trump’s challenging the election in court and it would be horrible if he won” or “No, because the police keep shooting black people” or “No, because if we’d done XYZ differently fewer people would have died of covid,” many people are going to disagree with the factual truth of those statements. Many others will disagree on what should be done about it even if the statements are true.
That doesn’t mean she’s wrong to believe what she believes or feel whatever she feels based on those beliefs. But it means it’s not realistic to expect others to respond to someone's sadness about those things the same way they would to someone's sadness about having a miscarriage. That’s why I don’t understand her including all those other issues in the piece. If she happened upon someone sobbing on a street corner, asked them “What’s wrong?” and they said “I’m sad because Trump lost,” I don’t think her response would be “There, there… How can I help you heal?” And it shouldn’t be. That’s an appropriate response to a personal tragedy, but not to a disagreement about politics or current events.
You just captured perfectly! my misgivings about the letter and those aspects of its content.
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"That’s why I don’t understand her including all those other issues in the piece"
To me, reading the letter and thinking about it, it almost feels like the miscarriage is the added on to the letter. I know it sounds bad, and i'm not accusing her of anything, this is simply my personal reflection on it.
To those who follow the reportas and reactions to M&H's łosoś. Are there voices critisizing the RF for not offering public support? Do people expect the RF to say something publicly?
I cant imagine why anyone woudl expect the RF to make a public statement about a private matter....To those who follow the reportas and reactions to M&H's łosoś. Are there voices critisizing the RF for not offering public support? Do people expect the RF to say something publicly?
To those who follow the reportas and reactions to M&H's łosoś. Are there voices critisizing the RF for not offering public support? Do people expect the RF to say something publicly?
The pressure to reveal all is very strong. Anyone who keeps things to themselves, or shares them only with their intimate circle of friends and family, is seen virtually as disordered. They’re ‘in denial’. Consider how the stiff upper lip of the rest of the royal family is so often demonised, and medicalised, these days. Stoicism is out, self-revelation is in. But we lose so much when we erase the line between private life and public life. When we advertise our private thoughts, emotions and experiences to a detached audience, our private life loses its meaning. It becomes performative, something we do to please others rather than to satisfy our own deeper needs. The private sphere is where we can be open, honest, frank, reflective. Raising the curtain on this world to outsiders will denude it of its sanctity and deprive us of a space in which we can truly be ourselves.
To those who follow the reportas and reactions to M&H's łosoś. Are there voices critisizing the RF for not offering public support? Do people expect the RF to say something publicly?
I haven't encountered an article that directly criticise the royal family for not publicly supporting Meghan. However, I found a spike article by Brendan O'Neill on how some people criticised the royal family for being stiff-upper-lips in previous instances. The criticism isn't just narrowing down to the Royal Family, but also those who likes to keep their emotion themselves.
The whole spike article is basically criticising Meghan and other celebrities, mostly on the privacy issues and revealing private emotions out. I know that some may abhor Brendan's view, so I posted the related part in quote section.
Do we really need to know about Meghan Markle’s miscarriage?
Harry and Meghan are now invading their own privacy.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/11/26/do-we-really-need-to-know-about-meghan-markles-miscarriage/
I do find the contrast in public reaction to Meghan’s revealing her miscarriage and other royals or members of the royal family who revealed their miscarriages or losses very telling. I do want to say that the vast majority of reactions that I’ve seen have been sympathetic and supportive, but on social media and in online comments I HAVE seen people saying things along the lines of “why does she have to go out and say their private business? Don’t they want their privacy?” and others mocking her words or calling her an attention-seeker. When Zara Phillips revealed her miscarriages I didn’t see anyone criticizing her or making light of it, same with Sophie and her ectopic pregnancy.
I do find the contrast in public reaction to Meghan’s revealing her miscarriage and other royals or members of the royal family who revealed their miscarriages or losses very telling. I do want to say that the vast majority of reactions that I’ve seen have been sympathetic and supportive, but on social media and in online comments I HAVE seen people saying things along the lines of “why does she have to go out and say their private business? Don’t they want their privacy?” and others mocking her words or calling her an attention-seeker. When Zara Phillips revealed her miscarriages I didn’t see anyone criticizing her or making light of it, same with Sophie and her ectopic pregnancy.
To those who follow the reportas and reactions to M&H's łosoś. Are there voices critisizing the RF for not offering public support? Do people expect the RF to say something publicly?
I believe all "Missions" etc. didn't have the usual monster charity Thanksgiving events out of an abundance of caution. They did their best to ensure their usual guests where otherwise taken care of. COVID still dictates how we behave and, if it doesn't it should. Were this not true, I am sure they would have rolled their sleeves up.So did they do anything for Thanksgiving that I missed? Served food or something?
I do find the contrast in public reaction to Meghan’s revealing her miscarriage and other royals or members of the royal family who revealed their miscarriages or losses very telling. I do want to say that the vast majority of reactions that I’ve seen have been sympathetic and supportive, but on social media and in online comments I HAVE seen people saying things along the lines of “why does she have to go out and say their private business? Don’t they want their privacy?” and others mocking her words or calling her an attention-seeker. When Zara Phillips revealed her miscarriages I didn’t see anyone criticizing her or making light of it, same with Sophie and her ectopic pregnancy.
Most of the criticism was actually about how Meghan made her miscarriage public, i.e. in a NYT op-ed piece bringing up George Floyd, Breonna Taylor and the South Africa tour.
I am very sympathetic about their loss - I do think it is good that she revealed her miscarriage in hopes of encouraging others to share their grief in order to help them come to terms with it. I just wish I didn't always feel that she is not sincere - that she is performing. She just hits me the wrong way.
I think you really phrased a conflicting feeling I have been having as well. I was very moved by the piece and wholeheartedly believe that it is genuine... but it’s a bit of a “boy who cried wolf” syndrome. So much of what the Sussexes have done has been self-serving or to seek attention and paint themselves as victims, so when they do put out something that is very heartfelt and sincere it’s difficult to take them seriously, and I feel like I’m constantly looking for ulterior motives.
All that being said, I do hope they will be able to have a second child. Most people recover from their grief following a miscarriage, though they always carry sadness for what might have been. A successful pregnancy and baby would go a long way to recovery.Its less of 'cried wolf' and more of the usual double standards.
They are hardly the only royals who have ever sued for breach of privacy. Or demanded/wanted privacy. Others are 'just protecting their children', 'entitled to their down time'. The Sussexes are liars, secrative, denying the people the right to see their kid.....
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Some people will not be happy with this couple until they slither down the hole where they are never heard from again that people claimed they would disappear in when they left royal life.
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I do find the contrast in public reaction to Meghan’s revealing her miscarriage and other royals or members of the royal family who revealed their miscarriages or losses very telling. I do want to say that the vast majority of reactions that I’ve seen have been sympathetic and supportive, but on social media and in online comments I HAVE seen people saying things along the lines of “why does she have to go out and say their private business? Don’t they want their privacy?” and others mocking her words or calling her an attention-seeker. When Zara Phillips revealed her miscarriages I didn’t see anyone criticizing her or making light of it, same with Sophie and her ectopic pregnancy.