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I was wondering if William is suitable to be a King one day.
Just an imagination: The Queen dies in 2020. Charles will be King then as George VII. 2030 Charles/George VII. dies and William (V.) will become King.
Is he suitable for this "job"?
What particular instance has helped you to form your opinion regarding William or Harry ?
Do you think that his or their education and experience thus far has helped learn what he/they must do as king?
What i expect from a future King:
- a degree in Law, Economics or Politics
- a year or more at an university abroad. For example if you did a LLB in UK, then a Master degree in Politics abroad.
- English and two other languages fluent.
- a internship in two ministries (foreign affairs and something else)
- some military training
I do not want to offend anyone, but i always had a problem with William's poor education.
I have the feeling that he is far too much focused on the military training. He is a Lieutenant in the Household Cavalry and a search and rescue Pilot in the Royal Air Force.
William had been to university. He has a degree in Geography ( 2:1) and has studied history of art before at St Andrews University. But from somebody who might be King in some years, i would expect more - especially a better academic training in law (constitutional law) and politics.
I do not know what languages are spoken by William. I guess he speaks some French and Spanish, but is not fluent in one of them. But a king should be as good as any diplomat. They (at least the german ones) need to speak German, English and another UN-language (French for example) at a very high level/fluent.
He has not been abroad a lot. I would imagine a degree in France (Good for languages abilities and academic degree) or a internship at the UN. He did a gap year in which he visited Chile, Belize, worked on British dairy farms and visited countries in Africa and some other official or charity visites abroad. This is not the international academic career I would expect.
Just to show the difference to other princes close to the throne:
Haakon of Norway:
In 1995 he graduated from the Royal Norwegian Naval Academy in Bergen. In autumn 1996 he moved to the USA to study at the University of California at Berkeley, and received his BA in political science in spring 1999. The following autumn the Crown Prince was a member of Norway’s third delegation to the UN General Assembly. In 2001 he followed the Foreign Ministry’s trainee programme for diplomats, and completed his education in 2003 at the London School of Economics and Political Science, where he was awarded an MA in development studies, specializing in international trade and Africa.
He speaks Norwegian, English, German (just a bit). I don't know if he speaks more languages.
Victoria of Sweden: (from Wikipedia)
She next studied for a year (1996/97) at the Université Catholique de l'Ouest at Angers in France, and in the fall term of 1997 participated in a special program following the work of the Parliament of Sweden. During the years 1998 to 2000, Victoria resided in the United States, where she studied various subjects at Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut.
In May 1999 she was an intern at the Swedish Embassy in Washington D.C. In 2000, she studied conflict resolution and international peacekeeping at the Swedish National Defence College (Försvarshögskolan). Victoria followed the Swedish presidency of the European Union and completed a study program at the Government Offices (Rosenbad) in 2001.
During spring semester 2002, Victoria completed a study program with the Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency (Sida), and in June and September was an intern at the United Nations in New York; in the fall she was an intern at the Swedish Trade Council's offices in Berlin and Paris. In 2003, Victoria's education continued with visits to Swedish businesses, a study and intern program in agriculture and forestry, as well as completion of the basic soldier training at SWEDINT (the Swedish Armed Forces International Centre).
In 2004, Victoria continued with visits to Swedish businesses, and that fall she continued with courses in political science, international relations and conflict resolution at the Swedish National Defence College. In 2005, she continued with private tutored studies in society-related subjects as well as some courses at the University of Stockholm.
In 2006, Victoria enrolled in the Ministry for Foreign Affairs' Diplomat Program, running from September 2006 to June 2007. The program is a training program for young future diplomats and gives an insight to the ministry's work, Swedish foreign and security policies and Sweden's relations with the rest of the world. The education entails lectures, seminars, group work and visits to authorities and institutions. In 2007, Victoria studied French privately and held an internship at the Permanent Representation of Sweden to the European Union. In June 2009, she graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree from Uppsala University
She speaks Swedish, German, English and French.
She did a basic military training.
Frederik of Denmark:
In 1989, the crown prince began to study for an academic degree, when he began a course in Political Science at University of Aarhus. This included a year at Harvard University (1992–1993) under the name of Frederik Henriksen, studying political science. He then took up a position for three months with the Danish UN mission in New York in 1994. In 1995 Crown Prince Frederik obtained his MA degree in Political Science from University of Aarhus. He completed the course in the prescribed number of years with an exam result above average. His final paper was an analysis on the foreign policy of the Baltic States. And he visited these countries several times during his studies.[1][2] The Crown Prince was posted as First Secretary to the Danish Embassy in Paris from October 1998 to October 1999.
He has completed extensive military studies and training in all three services, notably completing education as a sailor in the naval elite special operations forces (members of this are known as frogmen or frømænd in Danish). His frogman nickname is "Pingo".[3]
In the period 2001 and 2002, the Crown Prince completed further training for leaders at the Royal Danish Defence College. Crown Prince Frederik remains active in the defence, and in the period 2002–2003 served as a staff officer at Defence Command Denmark, and from 2003 as a senior lecturer with the Institute of Strategy at the Royal Danish Defence College.
The Crown Prince’s mother tongue is Danish. In addition, Crown Prince Frederik speaks French, English and German.
Willem of Orange-Nassau:
After high school he performed military service in the Royal Netherlands Navy from August 1985 to January 1987. He received his training at the Royal Netherlands Naval College and the frigates HNLMS Tromp and HNLMS Abraham Crijnssen, where he was an ensign. In 1988, he received additional training at the ship HNLMS Van Kinsbergen and became a lieutenant (junior grade).[6]
From 1987, Prince Willem-Alexander studied history at Leiden UniversityFrance's decision under President Charles de Gaulle to leave NATO's integrated command structure.[1] and received his academic degree in 1993. His final dissertation was on the Dutch response to
He went on to study government and the constitutional system, and visited ministries and the High Councils of State to learn how central government and other authorities function. He also visited the European institutions. He then completed an introductory programme with the Dutch business community.
He speaks Dutch, German, English fluently. I do not know if he speaks other languages.
Philippe of Belgium:
Prince Philippe was educated at the Belgian Royal Military School. From 1978 to 1981 he continued his education at Oxford University's Trinity College and finally attended Graduate School at Stanford University, California where he graduated in 1985 with an MA degree in Political Science.
He was appointed as a Second Lieutenant in 1980 and obtained his fighter pilot's wings and his certificates as a parachutist and a commando. In 1989, the Prince attended a series of special sessions at the Royal Higher Defence Institute. The same year, he was promoted to Colonel. On 25 March 2001, the Prince was appointed to the rank of Major-General in the Land Component and the Air Component and to the rank of Rear-Admiral in the Naval Component.
Prince Philippe has headed more than forty important economic missions
He speaks French, Dutch and English fluently. Might be German and italian as well, but not sure.
Just an imagination: The Queen dies in 2020. Charles will be King then as George VII. 2030 Charles/George VII. dies and William (V.) will become King.
Is he suitable for this "job"?
What particular instance has helped you to form your opinion regarding William or Harry ?
Do you think that his or their education and experience thus far has helped learn what he/they must do as king?
What i expect from a future King:
- a degree in Law, Economics or Politics
- a year or more at an university abroad. For example if you did a LLB in UK, then a Master degree in Politics abroad.
- English and two other languages fluent.
- a internship in two ministries (foreign affairs and something else)
- some military training
I do not want to offend anyone, but i always had a problem with William's poor education.
I have the feeling that he is far too much focused on the military training. He is a Lieutenant in the Household Cavalry and a search and rescue Pilot in the Royal Air Force.
William had been to university. He has a degree in Geography ( 2:1) and has studied history of art before at St Andrews University. But from somebody who might be King in some years, i would expect more - especially a better academic training in law (constitutional law) and politics.
I do not know what languages are spoken by William. I guess he speaks some French and Spanish, but is not fluent in one of them. But a king should be as good as any diplomat. They (at least the german ones) need to speak German, English and another UN-language (French for example) at a very high level/fluent.
He has not been abroad a lot. I would imagine a degree in France (Good for languages abilities and academic degree) or a internship at the UN. He did a gap year in which he visited Chile, Belize, worked on British dairy farms and visited countries in Africa and some other official or charity visites abroad. This is not the international academic career I would expect.
Just to show the difference to other princes close to the throne:
Haakon of Norway:
In 1995 he graduated from the Royal Norwegian Naval Academy in Bergen. In autumn 1996 he moved to the USA to study at the University of California at Berkeley, and received his BA in political science in spring 1999. The following autumn the Crown Prince was a member of Norway’s third delegation to the UN General Assembly. In 2001 he followed the Foreign Ministry’s trainee programme for diplomats, and completed his education in 2003 at the London School of Economics and Political Science, where he was awarded an MA in development studies, specializing in international trade and Africa.
He speaks Norwegian, English, German (just a bit). I don't know if he speaks more languages.
Victoria of Sweden: (from Wikipedia)
She next studied for a year (1996/97) at the Université Catholique de l'Ouest at Angers in France, and in the fall term of 1997 participated in a special program following the work of the Parliament of Sweden. During the years 1998 to 2000, Victoria resided in the United States, where she studied various subjects at Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut.
In May 1999 she was an intern at the Swedish Embassy in Washington D.C. In 2000, she studied conflict resolution and international peacekeeping at the Swedish National Defence College (Försvarshögskolan). Victoria followed the Swedish presidency of the European Union and completed a study program at the Government Offices (Rosenbad) in 2001.
During spring semester 2002, Victoria completed a study program with the Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency (Sida), and in June and September was an intern at the United Nations in New York; in the fall she was an intern at the Swedish Trade Council's offices in Berlin and Paris. In 2003, Victoria's education continued with visits to Swedish businesses, a study and intern program in agriculture and forestry, as well as completion of the basic soldier training at SWEDINT (the Swedish Armed Forces International Centre).
In 2004, Victoria continued with visits to Swedish businesses, and that fall she continued with courses in political science, international relations and conflict resolution at the Swedish National Defence College. In 2005, she continued with private tutored studies in society-related subjects as well as some courses at the University of Stockholm.
In 2006, Victoria enrolled in the Ministry for Foreign Affairs' Diplomat Program, running from September 2006 to June 2007. The program is a training program for young future diplomats and gives an insight to the ministry's work, Swedish foreign and security policies and Sweden's relations with the rest of the world. The education entails lectures, seminars, group work and visits to authorities and institutions. In 2007, Victoria studied French privately and held an internship at the Permanent Representation of Sweden to the European Union. In June 2009, she graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree from Uppsala University
She speaks Swedish, German, English and French.
She did a basic military training.
Frederik of Denmark:
In 1989, the crown prince began to study for an academic degree, when he began a course in Political Science at University of Aarhus. This included a year at Harvard University (1992–1993) under the name of Frederik Henriksen, studying political science. He then took up a position for three months with the Danish UN mission in New York in 1994. In 1995 Crown Prince Frederik obtained his MA degree in Political Science from University of Aarhus. He completed the course in the prescribed number of years with an exam result above average. His final paper was an analysis on the foreign policy of the Baltic States. And he visited these countries several times during his studies.[1][2] The Crown Prince was posted as First Secretary to the Danish Embassy in Paris from October 1998 to October 1999.
He has completed extensive military studies and training in all three services, notably completing education as a sailor in the naval elite special operations forces (members of this are known as frogmen or frømænd in Danish). His frogman nickname is "Pingo".[3]
In the period 2001 and 2002, the Crown Prince completed further training for leaders at the Royal Danish Defence College. Crown Prince Frederik remains active in the defence, and in the period 2002–2003 served as a staff officer at Defence Command Denmark, and from 2003 as a senior lecturer with the Institute of Strategy at the Royal Danish Defence College.
The Crown Prince’s mother tongue is Danish. In addition, Crown Prince Frederik speaks French, English and German.
Willem of Orange-Nassau:
After high school he performed military service in the Royal Netherlands Navy from August 1985 to January 1987. He received his training at the Royal Netherlands Naval College and the frigates HNLMS Tromp and HNLMS Abraham Crijnssen, where he was an ensign. In 1988, he received additional training at the ship HNLMS Van Kinsbergen and became a lieutenant (junior grade).[6]
From 1987, Prince Willem-Alexander studied history at Leiden UniversityFrance's decision under President Charles de Gaulle to leave NATO's integrated command structure.[1] and received his academic degree in 1993. His final dissertation was on the Dutch response to
He went on to study government and the constitutional system, and visited ministries and the High Councils of State to learn how central government and other authorities function. He also visited the European institutions. He then completed an introductory programme with the Dutch business community.
He speaks Dutch, German, English fluently. I do not know if he speaks other languages.
Philippe of Belgium:
Prince Philippe was educated at the Belgian Royal Military School. From 1978 to 1981 he continued his education at Oxford University's Trinity College and finally attended Graduate School at Stanford University, California where he graduated in 1985 with an MA degree in Political Science.
He was appointed as a Second Lieutenant in 1980 and obtained his fighter pilot's wings and his certificates as a parachutist and a commando. In 1989, the Prince attended a series of special sessions at the Royal Higher Defence Institute. The same year, he was promoted to Colonel. On 25 March 2001, the Prince was appointed to the rank of Major-General in the Land Component and the Air Component and to the rank of Rear-Admiral in the Naval Component.
Prince Philippe has headed more than forty important economic missions
He speaks French, Dutch and English fluently. Might be German and italian as well, but not sure.