"Spare" memoir by the Duke of Sussex (2023)

[HRHHermione]

Was Prince Harry the actual individual who chose the title of Spare for his book?

It was probably a joint decision with the publisher, though authors don’t usually have final say on title. It was appropriate though, given how often it’s used in the book.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

I'm curious about the incident where Harry alleges that Charles said that there was not enough $$ to support his wife.

If that is true, were Meghan and Harry supposed to go out and get jobs?

I am confused because I believed that the expectation was always that Charles would fund the expenses for his sons and their families, until William inherited the Duchy of Cornwall?

 

[Toledo]

I'm starting to think the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist ghost writer, J.R. Moehringer, did a 'paint by numbers' book and the number of inconsistencies hints the miscommunication between his client and the sketch he created for the book.

He even tweeted the following about his client Harry: The line between memory and fact is blurry, between interpretation and fact

Source: Los Angeles Times JAN. 12, 2023
Prince Harry’s ‘Spare’ ghostwriter defends book’s mistakes as it breaks sales records.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

I'm curious about the incident where Harry alleges that Charles said that there was not enough $$ to support his wife.

If that is true, were Meghan and Harry supposed to go out and get jobs?

I am confused because I believed that the expectation was always that Charles would fund the expenses for his sons and their families, until William inherited the Duchy of Cornwall?

Regardless of whatever Harry’s claims were, Charles gave both his sons money so I don’t get all what his complaint was? Plus the Sussexes still received money from Charles until June/July of 2021 which was when they moved to California. Plus Harry wasn’t broke, he had a trust fund with millions in it.

 

[HRHHermione]

I'm curious about the incident where Harry alleges that Charles said that there was not enough $$ to support his wife.

If that is true, were Meghan and Harry supposed to go out and get jobs?

I am confused because I believed that the expectation was always that Charles would fund the expenses for his sons and their families, until William inherited the Duchy of Cornwall?

What I got out of that section is the idea that they didn’t see any need for Harry’s wife to become a full time working royal during the reign of Elizabeth II. They suggested Meghan might want to continue acting or pursue other aspects of her career. We don’t really get a ton of detail though.

 

[Leopoldine]

Did Harry mention in his book that Katie Perfect did an interview with him and only mentioned his stink after she retired?



https://www.insider.com/katie-couric-prince-harry-stank-of-cigarettes-alcohol-before-meghan-2021-10

 

[Toledo]

I hope Harry and Meghan are investing now the millions they are accumulating in Trust funds and investments for the kids. That way, when the kids are adults, they have a regular stream of income and don't have to worry about anything their parents complain about now.
My fear is that these two are going to burn that money up so fast in a year or two, when they are no longer relevant for the media, there won't be much left for the kids to have.

 

[Toledo]

Did Harry mention in his book that Katie Perfect did an interview with him and only mentioned his stink after she retired?

https://www.insider.com/katie-couric-prince-harry-stank-of-cigarettes-alcohol-before-meghan-2021-10

I used to work with people who smelled like that in the office as you walked by their desks. I recall two died of conditions related to alcoholism, one in particular had his skin turn greenish from Wednesday to a Friday meeting, hospitalized on the weekend and died following Tuesday. The amount of booze has to be huge to stink to the level Kate Couric recalls from Harry.

And his behavior now reflects that lifestyle he had. Excess and no responsibilities blaming everyone else but himself. All his stories have one common denominator: he is always the victim.

Before I go and log out, I have to comment on the part he is now telling everyone about William pushing him on the floor. As the typical blamer his story misses to say what did he said to William that caused this reaction from him.

Harry only mentions the verbal fight and doesn't even come close to say what did he say to William, or maybe he said something about Kate (?) that William, totally out of character, had to and resort to push him away and onto the floor. Was Harry screaming at him close to his face and personal space? Harry is silent on anything that makes him look like the bully on the situations he complains about.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Again, the family have their plans to sort it out and they do not need Harry’s suggestions. It’s rude and patronizing. It’s certainly not his place either.

The education and career advice of William's children will be his and Catherine's joy and responsibility. They are funded by The Duchy of Cornwall. (An independant trust set up in the 1300s for the heir to the throne to allow for expenses so not to need support by any government or the monarch.)

The BRF have a good track record with the younger extended family. Most have been well educated and have jobs. Peter, Zara, Beatrice, Eugenie, descendants of the Gloucestors and Kents all seem to have satisfying work and lives dictated mostly by their own efforts. Louise and James will recieve similar education and encouragement.
The older members, cousins of the Queen etc. seem to have contributed a lot and have been reimbursed their expenses for doing so.
King Charles will be able to continue reimbursing Anne, Sophie and Edward for their expenses doing royal engagements.
Harry wanting an outside career is similar to Tim Lawrence, Peter Philips, George Windsor, Earl of St Andrews or Alexander Windsor, Earl of Ulster etc.

Harry could have continued in the Armed Services or retrained at university etc. Had he remained a working royal his expenses would have been met by King Charles reimbursing him expenses for his engagements out of the Sovereign Grant (a percentage of the profits of the Crown Estate. )
The Sovereign Grant has to also fund repairs to buildings, etc etc.

The Harry in Spare writes like his family is disfunctional though facts say otherwise.
Harry should own most of the responsibility for his own decisions regarding a career away from royal duties.

 

[HighnessN]

This has even more context, yes. This bit is infuriating to read because it confirms that what Harry is still deeply angry about is that their proposal to be half in and half out was rejected. Even now, four years on, he thinks his family denied him that because they were being petty or controlling or cruel to him. He doesn’t understand that there is a lot of precedent for why it never would have worked, that his commercial interests could not exist with having any sort of role in the monarchy. They didn’t do this to be cruel to Harry and Meghan. It was the only choice the U.K. Government and public would have accepted.

“When we left we genuinely thought we would be left alone. And that was so naive.

You really thought you’d be able to go to Canada and just get on with your life?

Well the first idea, the first plan, as we made very clear through that Instagram statement, almost exactly three years to the day, the proposal was, we’d like to separate our time between Canada and the UK. We still want to work within the institution, we just want to carve out a different role where we are financially independent, to remove the supposed public interest argument for the press, which is if you are tax payer funded, then your whole life is owned by us. Naturally because of the media’s role in this, our exit was misrepresented, our proposal was misrepresented within the institution, and that was incredibly damaging and sad. They [the royal family] scuppered that whole plan, mainly, sadly, through their need to financially control us, the jealousy, and this unfortunate situation whereby us just existing outside of their control is somehow problematic for them.”

In that statement Harry is talking about, they state their intention for Archie to be raised "with the appreciation for the royal tradition into which he was born".

While its clear that the Sussexes had strained relationships with family members, their main reason for leaving was to be able to control their narrative (to use their own words". If the family had approved their HIHO plan, none of these attacks on them would be happening, their focus would have been 100% on the British media.
From the above statement, its clear that they believed that if they stopped receiving tax payer funding (but obviously still get tax funded security), then they could claim that the press had no right to comment on their lives. The press couldn have an excuse to continue with their coverage on them (how they believed that, is beyond me).

What the Sussexes failed to understand is that, the very reason they wanted to leave (to be free from being controled due to being tax payer funding), was the same reason why HIHO was not possible. They ranked too high in the family for them to not have conflict of interest in whatever finacial endevours they undertook. The would still have been public & press comment on how they are monetizing their positions (same accusations they face now because they still use their titles). The family was not being jealous, they knew it was either they were in or they were out.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

I think with regards to William, of all the red lines Harry has already crossed, dragging the Wales children into this mess is the most unforgivable one.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...clear-children-not-Harrys-responsibility.html

 

[CrownPrincessJava]

I think with regards to William, of all the red lines Harry has already crossed, dragging the Wales children into this mess is the most unforgivable one.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...clear-children-not-Harrys-responsibility.html

He did the ultimate low-blow. If Princess Charlotte or Prince Louis go the way of their Uncle Harold - he will say "I told you so! That family is dysfunctional and I called it! Now you HAVE TO believe me". If Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis are adults "without major scandal", he will gloat saying it was from all his actions between 2019 and whenever and HE and HIS WIFE were the catalyst for change.

That is the lowest of lows to your own brother. William needs to look forward and never look back. You don't throw your brother under the bus like that. I have a sister who acts like Harold. I haven't spoken to her in 14 years

 

[Denville]

It would be helpful if he told us what he actually means by reform. But he won't of course. Probably because he doesn't have a clue. He has zero credibility & has become a bit of a laughing stock.

Isnt it obvious that he hasn't a clue about how the royal situation worked ever? and has no scruples about revealing how little he knew? I think the RH and aides did a good job MAKING HIm seem a decent good natured chap for years.. of course, I suppose he IS having a meltdown for the past 3 years and should be sympathised with.. but when one remembers his nastier side, its hard to give him sympathy

 

[Denville]

What I got out of that section is the idea that they didn’t see any need for Harry’s wife to become a full time working royal during the reign of Elizabeth II. They suggested Meghan might want to continue acting or pursue other aspects of her career. We don’t really get a ton of detail though.

I think they expected Meghan to be a working royal, as the older ones are getting old and she, Will, Kate and Harry were the next generation. OTOH, perhaps they could see that Meg wasn't interested in the job really and they were wary of her taking on the job? and they thought it would look more modern if she was let work in some acting field, if she wanted to, and Harry woud continue as a working royal. It is possible that they weren't fooled by her, and could see she was a problem, and felt that perhaps it was better to let her be semi detached. However, she and H seem to have taken this as an insult.

 

[Moran]

How does this make the Sussexes look better? The situations don’t compare at all. It’s not a joke unless you know the person well, Meghan did not know Kate well enough to say that and Kate’s response should tell you that she didn’t find it funny. Harry can address any adult person in his family but he has no business talking about someone else’s children because it’s not his place. William and Kate haven’t talked about Harry’s children so that’s a low blow from Harry.

Let's not forget that Meghan saying "Take your finger away from my face" doesn't mean William finger was actually in her face. As we know, these two love exaggerating in order to make themselves the perfect victimized victims.

 

[Denville]

Expected? Probably. Would they force any family member into it? Hardly. I guess William (or even Charles) would make no objection if a spare eventually chooses to step down from the royal work.


Heck, If Harry himself wanted to just step down in order to persue another career I'm sure people would understand. That's not what he wanted though, he wanted half in half out, that's why he got mad when that was denied.



But Harry's attacks does not come from his concerns about his nephews, let's not be disingenuous, his so called concern is just a cheap excuse to make his actions appear reasonable. It's pretty manipulative actually.

Exactly. Harry does not care about anteing but himself and Meghan. Its been clear for some time that the RF is gradually changing things so that younger children are not stuck with being assistant royals to their elders, if they don't want to do that. Harry did not want to have more choices per se, he just wanted more freedom and more money and he seems not to have realised that he could be in or out... but not both. And then he could not understand that if he elected for out, that meant that he was meant to support himself at whatever work he chose to do. He still expected the tax payers or Charles to pay for his security

 

[tihkon2]

Again, anything that Harry or Meghan say or write can be safely ignored unless there is actual real proof. He really screwed himself with that baloney about his memories don't have to be based in actual facts. As well as the many times he and his wife have been shown to have lied in interviews and books.

 

[Denville]

I'm starting to think the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist ghost writer, J.R. Moehringer, did a 'paint by numbers' book and the number of inconsistencies hints the miscommunication between his client and the sketch he created for the book.

He even tweeted the following about his client Harry: The line between memory and fact is blurry, between interpretation and fact

Source: Los Angeles Times JAN. 12, 2023
Prince Harry’s ‘Spare’ ghostwriter defends book’s mistakes as it breaks sales records.

seems an odd thing for a journalist or biographer to say. Is he saying that this book is full of non facts but please treat it as a good peice of work>

 

[Lee-Z]

Harry's new motto seems to be "Always complain, one-sided explain"

 

[Leopoldine]

seems an odd thing for a journalist or biographer to say. Is he saying that this book is full of non facts but please treat it as a good peice of work>

It is odd for an accredited writer/biographer to have to apologize for lies.

 

[tommy100]

I find his latest interview with the Telegraph quite, well worrying to be honest. It sounds almost like like a threat to his family - I'll write more if you don't do what I want. It's really quite worrying.

 

[lucien]

His psychiatrist must be even more doped and totally off the planet then this...uhh..total failure of a whining frozen wiener....Who wanted to know?...

Just when one thinks it can not possibly get worse..it does and flies by to the next non level of lies...I am glad he hurts himself this way,so people actually do have a clear view of him...

Imagine,the RF had to put up with this whimsical creature in their midst for too long,and then not comment,for us to feel the full scale of weight this man terrorised and threatened & betrayed his family with.

Beyond comprehension,and that´s OK too...So is his book...I hear people stopped chopping wood and use spare to light their fires...Good idea.

 

[Hallo girl]

I find his latest interview with the Telegraph quite, well worrying to be honest. It sounds almost like like a threat to his family - I'll write more if you don't do what I want. It's really quite worrying.

I have said that all along, going back to the SA interview when Tom Bradby then said that Harry could do more interviews write books as he had stuff to say. Meghans friends saying she had receipts to prove everything. Every time they spoke there was the inference that they could say more but wouldn't.
The drip drip of information and gossip each time they speak.
Meghan has a diary, proves nothing just because you write something doesn't mean it is accurate reflection of what happened,

He is furious that the palace are not responding, he is becoming more and more annoyed. There is all the talk about red lines, I thought repeating text messages was a biggy but now discussing the children is an even bigger one.

The problem the media now have with him is that if he is interviewed and says really juicy stuff then they take a risk that they could all be sued, as his track record is poor, not saying it is all wrong but there are mistakes even the ghost writer has admitted that.

I thought he wanted money to go away but I am not sure about that now.

I do not think he knows himself, they have money, they are living in America they have a lovely family.
What does he want ?

 

[Somebody]

Has there been any indication of what Harry sees as the future role for 'spares' (as he apparently is doing this for Charlotte)? Still his HIHO-plan?

And did anyone of you understand this part in the Telegraph interview?

'If only 10 per cent of the scrutiny that was put on me and M was put on this institution, we wouldn't be in this mess right now. It's so dirty. It's so dark. And it will continue and it will carry on and I look forward to the day when we are no longer part of it, but I worry about who's next.'

What day is he exactly alluding to? They've already left the family for all intents and purposes other than remaining blood relatives...

 

[tommy100]

It feels like he is bating William to me - discussing "mummy" and talking about William looking less like Diana, taking pot shots at Catherine with really unnecessary stories in the book and now mentioning the Wales' children. All are known "no go" areas for William.

What Harry doesn't realise is HIHO would work - depending on what the "half out" consists of. No one would have an issue with Charlotte or Louis doing a pretty regular job where their royal connections won't be making them money. Who would kick off if Charlotte or Louis wanted to work as a teacher and do royal engagements in the school holidays, or work for a NGO with odd royal duties? Or of course, as Harry did for a while, join the military and do royal duties as well. Half in half out didn't work because Harry and Meghan wanted to profit from their royal connections during the half out time then appear doing publicly funded royal duties the rest of the time.

Charlotte and Louis will be just fine IMO, I think it will be a huge help that there are two of them to be "spares" to George as well.

 

[Hallo girl]

It feels like he is bating William to me - discussing "mummy" and talking about William looking less like Diana, taking pot shots at Catherine with really unnecessary stories in the book and now mentioning the Wales' children. All are known "no go" areas for William.

He appears to have a bigger problem with William than he does with his father, but of course this is almost a repeat of a few months ago, when it was Charles he baited but left the Queen alone, she was painted the victim of the others.

He must not be seen to attack the crown. Although he is.

 

[Denville]

He appears to have a bigger problem with William than he does with his father, but of course this is almost a repeat of a few months ago, when it was Charles he baited but left the Queen alone, she was painted the victim of the others.

He must not be seen to attack the crown. Although he is.

I think he is working his way through the RF, but there is a genuine anger and hatred for William, and partly for Charles. But even H knew that he woudl look bad attacking his grandmother the queen who was a woman in her 90s with a dying husband...
but I think there is genuine resentment that Charles is the King and William will be king, and he, Harry wont be. Charles is not the most popular King but William has shown himself to be well liked in recent years and I hink that also bugs Harry.. but he himself was also well liked, and it was his own actions that destroyed his popularity, such as saying he didn't like doing royal duties, and now his spiteful nasty behaviour to staff.

 

[Hallo girl]

Has there been any indication of what Harry sees as the future role for 'spares' (as he apparently is doing this for Charlotte)? Still his HIHO-plan?

And did anyone of you understand this part in the Telegraph interview?



What day is he exactly alluding to? They've already left the family for all intents and purposes other than remaining blood relatives...

That day cannot come quick enough, but why would a journalist not do a follow up question to that remark. They seem to let him off light.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

H lives completey in his own world or even own planet ...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ry-demands-Royal-Family-say-sorry-Meghan.html

 

[Alison H]

Beatrice and Eugenie have both got jobs, but Harry hasn't got the qualifications or skills to get a highly paid job, and presumably he thinks that lower paid jobs are beneath him - or why does he say that he wasn't given the skills to get a job? Charlotte and Louis will be fine.