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03-22-2008, 01:02 AM
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You can hear her speaking in at least 2 languages in this clip, but to tell you the truth - my ears are a bit 'off' (I've just had a cold, I normally count on an ear infection straight after...) and I cant tell which ones, although I do know that English is one of them...
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03-22-2008, 01:34 AM
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english and dutch? she has a really deep voice!
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03-22-2008, 01:43 AM
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I read somewhere, but I can not remeber exactly where , but I am sure she is able to speak italian, her mother tounge is spanish, italian is similar, and she spend every summer in Italy so she has there plently oportunity of practicing. I think.... I read about that when she was going to get married, becasue somewhere I read that she would spaek italian with Valentino for her wedding dress, or something like that.
I lived 2 years in Italy and I speak spanish too, it was not difficult for me to pick up the language, I have some freinds that I still in touch and I alwys speak Italian with them not to loose it, so I can guess that she might defend quiet well in Italian.
May be we should to check the Royal site and hr CV , may be there we can find that????
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Wow! I think that would be amazing if she also spoke Italian. It would be interesting to find out for sure. I envy you that you speak it, I only understand and speak Spanish and Italian both a little bit, but I plan on learning it. You are right, it is quite similar.
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03-22-2008, 03:36 AM
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Wow! I think that would be amazing if she also spoke Italian. It would be interesting to find out for sure. I envy you that you speak it, I only understand and speak Spanish and Italian both a little bit, but I plan on learning it. You are right, it is quite similar.
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I grow up in Argentina, so I was speaking spanish and danish, my father was danish, he spoke 4 languages, he died when I was 2 and a half so I always thought that to speak several languages like him I wiuld be closer to him, a silly thought! so for this I always was interestied in learning languages, my husband spaeks 7 languages, he learns so quick that make me jelous! he is british and learned to speak italian before me while we were living in Italy, now my 6 year old daughter, speaks english and spanish, fluently and my husband try some french with her , her godmother is french, we have a lot of firends from europe coming and visitng us, the only condition that i impose to them, they have to speak to my daughter their own language!
Maxima went to a biligual school, so she was expose to another language since she was very young, she must have the hability to learn easy, my husband said, dutch probably is one of the most difficult languages to learn fro western europe, and obviulsy she does very well, on top of that she has private tuttors with her, and with that help somebody with the desire to learn would learn easy. I understand very well french and if I think I can talk a little bit but I must say I would love to have a tuttor comming home twice or 3 times a week to learn it properly!
going back to topic, Maxima is very clever and knows what she wants!
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03-22-2008, 07:58 AM
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Hi Ashlen,
<I lived 2 years in Italy and I speak spanish too, it was not difficult for me to pick up the language, I have some freinds that I still in touch and I alwys speak Italian with them not to loose it, so I can guess that she might defend quiet well in Italian.>
To learn Italian, for Spanish speaking people, is extremely easy...since both languages are very similar...In fact, Spanish derives from Italian. Now, people that speak Spanish and Italian run with great adventange when it comes to learn French.
Since Máxima studied at the Nothlands HS...it wouldn't surprise me that she learned English and French during her teen years.
About her Italian....You know quite well that any Argentinean can learn said language by talking to people on the streets of Buenos Aires...and if said person goes every summer to Italy... he / she becomes fluent in the language in no time.
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03-22-2008, 12:28 PM
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Hi Ashlen,
<I lived 2 years in Italy and I speak spanish too, it was not difficult for me to pick up the language, I have some freinds that I still in touch and I alwys speak Italian with them not to loose it, so I can guess that she might defend quiet well in Italian.>
To learn Italian, for Spanish speaking people, is extremely easy...since both languages are very similar...In fact, Spanish derives from Italian. Now, people that speak Spanish and Italian run with great adventange when it comes to learn French.
Since Máxima studied at the Nothlands HS...it wouldn't surprise me that she learned English and French during her teen years.
About her Italian....You know quite well that any Argentinean can learn said language by talking to people on the streets of Buenos Aires...and if said person goes every summer to Italy... he / she becomes fluent in the language in no time.
Duchesssa
P. S> I am travelling to Buenos Aires in June.
        
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That's true, althought you can find their are some areas of italy that they have a dialect and this is not very easy.
I tink Maxima is the one princess who is able to speak several languages! I admire her for that. Eventhough she has the money to pay for private tuttors, I do not see any other princess doing the same as her and they have the power of the money to pay tuttors too.
Have fun in Buenos Aires.
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03-22-2008, 09:43 PM
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Yes...In general high society women and men from Argentina are taught how to speak English and French at the colleges they attends. As for the Italian, some learns this language too, and besides we, Argentines have lots of Italian immigrants. We are somewhat used to hear Italian here and there...even some characters in movies speaks Italian , when playing an Italian granny or grandpa...
However, my Italian is awful. I can read and understand it perfectly...but I'm really, really stupid speaking it. I'm very frustrated not being able to speak it. But when I visited Italy, people would tell me to speak Spanish all the same, that they'll understand me! And It was true...They would speak me in Italian and I answered to them in Spanish, and all of us would understand each other!!! 
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03-22-2008, 10:04 PM
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They would speak me in Italian and I answered to them in Spanish, and all of us would understand each other!!! 
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03-23-2008, 12:11 AM
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I grow up in Argentina, so I was speaking spanish and danish, my father was danish, he spoke 4 languages, he died when I was 2 and a half so I always thought that to speak several languages like him I wiuld be closer to him, a silly thought! so for this I always was interestied in learning languages, my husband spaeks 7 languages, he learns so quick that make me jelous! he is british and learned to speak italian before me while we were living in Italy, now my 6 year old daughter, speaks english and spanish, fluently and my husband try some french with her , her godmother is french, we have a lot of firends from europe coming and visitng us, the only condition that i impose to them, they have to speak to my daughter their own language!
Maxima went to a biligual school, so she was expose to another language since she was very young, she must have the hability to learn easy, my husband said, dutch probably is one of the most difficult languages to learn fro western europe, and obviulsy she does very well, on top of that she has private tuttors with her, and with that help somebody with the desire to learn would learn easy. I understand very well french and if I think I can talk a little bit but I must say I would love to have a tuttor comming home twice or 3 times a week to learn it properly!
going back to topic, Maxima is very clever and knows what she wants!
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Very interesting, thank you. I want to learn as many languages as possible, too, I love it, and I think it is great that you teach your daughter.
I admire Máxima, too for all of that. Of course, she has the money, teachers, etc., but not everybody would do it. She seems to be very smart and interested.
BTW, I don't think Dutch is really that difficult, I can understand quite a lot, but maybe that is because I speak German.
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I'm Dutch so ofcourse it is normal for me, but I have friends from all over the world and some of them are learning Dutch and they told me it's a very difficult language to learn.
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03-23-2008, 06:47 AM
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BTW, I don't think Dutch is really that difficult, I can understand quite a lot, but maybe that is because I speak German.
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I think that's the point!
The two languages are really similar. I have two friends who make a Dutch-course right now and they learn it quite easily (compared to Frensh or Spanish).
But I think Dutch and German are both hard to learn. At least that's what a friend from Norway told me. Grammar-wise.
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03-23-2008, 09:58 AM
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To learn Italian, for Spanish speaking people, is extremely easy...since both languages are very similar...In fact, Spanish derives from Italian. Now, people that speak Spanish and Italian run with great adventange when it comes to learn French.
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spanish doesn't derive from italian. they in fact derive from the same root (latin - which, while it started in italy, it's NOT italian) but none of them is first to the other one, but rather two different branches of the same root.
however, i would have thought maxima was taught french at school, but school french isn't that amazing so as to pronounce a speech. even if it was, i would have assumed she would have forgotten most of it during all these years (use it or loose it, as they call it for languages).
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03-23-2008, 01:48 PM
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germans and dutch are ver similar becasue it i am not wrong isn't dutch a mix with german?
it took me 6 months living in italy before i started to speak italian, even there are similar until you get use to the accent and listen a lot it is not so easy, and it depends how it is easy for each person , my husban who is british start to speak italian before me, he pick up languages very easy, he speaks 7 languages, so it depend of each person, maxima, probably like languages, and she is interestd in learning them and willing to do thebest, and of course with her money sitation that helps her to have tuttors, make it more easy for her to learn but overall it has to be in you the desire to learn , otherwise, you can not lear even if you have the money to pay private tuttors!
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No, Dutch is not a mixture of German. But they do have quite a few similar words, and at the borders you will often get a sort of dialect of the two.
Dutch is much more slow in the speech patterns and less guttural.
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12-29-2008, 11:12 AM
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Thank you, thank you so much for posting these videos! She sounds a little strange for an Argentinian, maybe it´s the influence of Dutch. Let´s not forget she studied Economics, but she has obviously prepared herself on this particular subject..
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Our Crown Jewel sounds a little strange?I dare say,her english is better then one can expect,not the nasal nagging yankee sound,but wonderfull english.Ofcourse there's a little accent to it,it only adds to the charm wouldn't you think?See,so do I.
Prepared on this particular subject??My dear,HRH is an Internationally acclaimed EXPERT on the subject.No harm done if posters
are as well prepared on what they think they know,than HRH is in her own field.
Just a slight hint after hundreds of posts everywhere on the subject.
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12-29-2008, 12:31 PM
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"Our Crown Jewel sounds a little strange?"
Strange for an ARGENTINIAN, who is supposed to have a slight Spanish accent. I didn´t mean she speaks a strange English. She doesn´t sound American nor British to me, but something else.
"No harm done if posters are as well prepared on what they think they know,than HRH is in her own field."
Sure, if i´d live day and night on the forum i would be an expert on Princess Maxima´s activities, but as i have so many other important things to do i only come from time to time. You should ignore the repeated posts and not bother to answer.
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12-29-2008, 12:42 PM
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"Our Crown Jewel sounds a little strange?"
Strange for an ARGENTINIAN, who is supposed to have a slight Spanish accent. I didn´t mean she speaks a strange English. She doesn´t sound American nor British to me, but something else.
"No harm done if posters are as well prepared on what they think they know,than HRH is in her own field."
Sure, if i´d live day and night on the forum i would be an expert on Princess Maxima´s activities, but as i have so many other important things to do i only come from time to time. You should ignore the repeated posts and not bother to answer.
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12-29-2008, 02:13 PM
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but i might be wrong does she has an accent when she speaks english, like can you listen her argentinenan accent?
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Yes indeed. I think her english is wonderful, but its quite obvious Spanish is her mother tongue.
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but of course maxima's english is quite good, she worked and lived in new york so it should be good shouldn't it?
I do not like her dutch speaking actually, she still has a lot of trouble with speaking it fluently.
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