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Old 04-21-2019, 12:09 PM
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To live somewhere is permenant. Whether a couple of years or a couple of decades. And if the opportunity is simply to keep them away is alarming.
We'll have to agree to disagree. Permanent implies forever. A two year posting elsewhere is not permanent, as any service member or foreign service officer can tell you.
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Your comment doesnít make much sense. Yes their names are included in this story, but they were once Private Secretary to HM and Personal Advisor to (first of all) Henry and William.

There arenít actually any plans to send Henry and Meghan anywhere. All the stories speculate itís Africa and itíll supposedly be next year.

This is not like someoneís for a hold of an official document and leaked it, and it specifically said William wants to send Meghan and Henry to Africa next year.

This is literally a story made from nothing other than Henry and Meghan doing what they already do...



Yes I agree that there is far too much attention being given to something that is mere speculation at this point in time.
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Old 04-21-2019, 12:13 PM
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We'll have to agree to disagree. Permanent implies forever. A two year posting elsewhere is not permanent, as any service member or foreign service officer can tell you.
But we aren’t talking about foreign service officer or service member. We are talking about members of the BRF. Which this type of arrangement isn’t usual ever since member of the BRF stopped being appointed to GG positions around the realms. As far as I’m concerned, whoever lives and works in a foreign country in a manner that isn’t commuting back and forth, it is permenant during the time they are there.
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Old 04-21-2019, 12:24 PM
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This is literally a story made from nothing other than Henry and Meghan doing what they already do...
This story may or may not have some truth to it, but as I read these articles, there wasn't much insight of what Harry and Meghan would want to do. It's all about courtiers making plans, and tbh imho it was a weird article to write now, and I question the purpose of it.
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Old 04-21-2019, 12:28 PM
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This story may or may not have some truth to it, but as I read these articles, there wasn't much insight of what Harry and Meghan would want to do. It's all about courtiers making plans, and tbh imho it was a weird article to write now, and I question the purpose of it.
Pretty much this.
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Old 04-21-2019, 12:58 PM
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The two brothers have different tasks in life. William needs to make sure that he is valued by the people until the very last day of his life, so a more careful approach is smart. Harry on the other hand has especially the upcoming decade to make a difference. So yes, currently, he is overshadowing his brother and that is only natural imo. Just like George will most likely be overshadowed by his younger sister and/or brother for some time.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:05 PM
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Harry and Meghan do not live in Africa.

Where did I say they did?

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To live somewhere else for a few years isn’t considered permenant? It’s not just a tour we are talking about.
The definition of permanent is;

“lasting or intended to last or remain unchanged indefinitely.”

IF Henry and Meghan went anywhere, it would not be lasting therefore not permanent.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:27 PM
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Where did I say they did?



The definition of permanent is;

“lasting or intended to last or remain unchanged indefinitely.”

IF Henry and Meghan went anywhere, it would not be lasting therefore not permanent.
You said it’s no different than what is already going on. I’m pointing out it is different.

If you’d prefer, we can say live elsewhere for a few years, but to me that’s permenant enough. And I don’t see how it makes any difference here. It is nevertheless not common for members of the BRF to be sent elsewhere to live. At least not since the GGs around the realm have been people from the countries.

And if they are going to as far as naming people and their role on it, I would say that’s about as good as it gets until things actually work out and becomes official. And given this isn’t just catty things through petty gossip, but rather official matters of the Firm, I do think it’s different than things that are just written to fill column inches. The nondenial denial also doesn’t help matters.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:36 PM
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You said it’s no different than what is already going on. I’m pointing out it is different.

If you’d prefer, we can say live elsewhere for a few years, but to me that’s permenant enough. And I don’t see how it makes any difference here. It is nevertheless not common for members of the BRF to be sent elsewhere to live. At least not since the GGs around the realm have been people from the countries.

And if they are going to as far as naming people and their role on it, I would say that’s about as good as it gets until things actually work out and becomes official. And given this isn’t just catty things through petty gossip, but rather official matters of the Firm, I do think it’s different than things that are just written to fill column inches. The nondenial denial also doesn’t help matters.
The thing is, it is a lot of catty things with a couple of names of high level former employees thrown in to give it gravitas. It seems like a lot of nasty gossip with some ideas from old discussions being brought up for credence.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:45 PM
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The Sussexes just might go down to Africa for a tour and to launch some projects. Theyíre not moving and the idea that the Queen is trying to get rid of Harry and Meghan is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. Harry and Meghan is part of The Queen and Prince Charlesís Court. Theyíre not going anywhere. Although, I can see the media trying to push them out.
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You said itís no different than what is already going on. Iím pointing out it is different.
Except it isn't different, the only concrete piece of evidence I took from any of the articles, as definite, was that Henry and Meghan "are set to be given a role that involves the Commonwealth, charity work and promoting Britain" which is what they already do. Nowhere in that sentence does it say the role involves being permanently abroad.

Everything else in the articles was complete guess work with no evidence to back it up.
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Old 04-21-2019, 02:20 PM
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A lot of this lay right at the doorsteps of the palace official offices and PR team. You’d think they would’ve had it together leading up the Sussexes wedding and afterwards, but palace officials have allowed to media to run the narrative of what’s going on here and now everything is in such a mess and the press is taking advantage of the mess.
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The Telegraph has their version. Apparently just longer trips but not living in Africa or anywhere else. So quick with the change in story.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...w-life-family/
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Old 04-21-2019, 02:49 PM
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The Telegraph has their version. Apparently just longer trips but not living in Africa or anywhere else. So quick with the change in story.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...w-life-family/
The Telegraph story avoids some of the holes in the original Sunday Times story.
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Old 04-21-2019, 02:58 PM
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My guess is Sara Latham has been busy explaining a badly leaked story in its infancy stages. It seems to me the Sussexes will probably travel for a month here and there, focus on a project and return. How that became whatever Roya was insinuating is beyond me. But who knows. It’s silly this even was a thing.
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Old 04-21-2019, 03:19 PM
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Could this be a test to find out who has been leaking in the past?
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Old 04-21-2019, 04:05 PM
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My guess is Sara Latham has been busy explaining a badly leaked story in its infancy stages. It seems to me the Sussexes will probably travel for a month here and there, focus on a project and return. How that became whatever Roya was insinuating is beyond me. But who knows. Itís silly this even was a thing.
Itís all so unnecessary. She shouldnít have to be explaining anything if there were actual professionals doing their job. For a national UK paper to blast 2 stories that large segments are now bing backtracked is unethical. Whether itís a private citizen or a member of royal family, like Meghan, itís wicked to put unnecessary stress on a woman about to give birth. Plus itís Her Majestyís Birthday & Easter, thatís what shouldíve been headlined in that paper.
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Old 04-21-2019, 04:38 PM
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Out of Africa gate is still being stirred up by DM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ger-Diana.html
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It’s all so unnecessary. She shouldn’t have to be explaining anything if there were actual professionals doing their job. For a national UK paper to blast 2 stories that large segments are now bing backtracked is unethical. Whether it’s a private citizen or a member of royal family, like Meghan, it’s wicked to put unnecessary stress on a woman about to give birth. Plus it’s Her Majesty’s Birthday & Easter, that’s what should’ve been headlined in that paper.
I agree. Clearly The Times had their info crossed since they have edited it twice since last night. And now the Telegraph seemed to have got more info. What was the point of this "news break" right now days before she gives birth and right for HMQ's birthday and Easter? Now it is a mess and for what? Well I hope it was worth it. Then we had reporters fixating on the brothers lack of interaction, so maybe it was.
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Old 04-21-2019, 05:11 PM
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The Telegraph has their version. Apparently just longer trips but not living in Africa or anywhere else. So quick with the change in story. Seems like damage control since Iíve seen a few media folk making comments on this story.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...w-life-family/
That sounds much closer to what is possibly the truth, with 50% less innuendo, always a move in the right direction.
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