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Old 03-08-2019, 05:36 AM
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The dailymail about Mary's course this week (note: some of the photos are not recent - and what a caption..)


** dailymail: From the ballroom to the barracks! Crown Princess Mary swaps her heels for boots..**
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Old 03-08-2019, 07:14 AM
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Thanks for the daily chuckle, Iceflower.

While the writer of the article at least has done some effort, it is clear that she has no clue about military matters. There are a number of basic mistakes.
Some of them are due to Google translate I think.
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Old 03-08-2019, 08:44 AM
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Had a look at the DRF calendar. Looks like Mary is close to being promoted to captain in the Home Guard.

She is attending a course next week in order to prepare her her skills for a promotion to captain.

Interesting! You normally have to be a career officer in order to be a captain (company commander) in the Home Guard. And a basic requirement is to have graduated from the officers academy. - Mary hasn't.
But of course as Crown Princess, Mary is special and as far as I know she has rarely if ever played an active role on a platoon or company level in the company she formally belongs to. She is de facto lieutenant a la suite in the Home Guard. I.e. without a command. So I guess an exception is made for her.

I wonder if she will climb further up the career ladder in the Home Guard? Still without having a formal command of course. (She would hardly be qualified for that in real life.)
The next step after captain would be major, but the requires a basic staff officers training.
I guess she can get a crash course in that as well - she could ask her brother-in-law to prepare her.

PH, in his capacity as Prince Consort (and in Danish context that meant he held the same rank as QMII, except in regards to Constitutional issues) was made a full general and admiral - and he didn't have a formal officers education behind him either, even though he was a trained soldier who had seen active duty in Algeria. So why not Mary?
The reason was of course the traditional close affiliation between the DRF and the military, almost dictating that PH had to if not have a military role, then at least wear uniforms. Beforehand that was no problem, because since PH was the first Prince Consort in Danish history, the queen consorts before him just maintained a civilian role.
But today things are more blurred. Women can and do, and are indeed encouraged to, join the armed forces. So it's only natural that female members of the DRF play some sort of role within the Total Defense as well.
With Mary of course being the highest ranking (in the future) she will have to play a role that in some way is equivalent to the role PH played.
That is interesting in relation to the late Prince's allusions to the differences in treatment of female and male consorts. Apparently the military role of consorts is moving towards more gender-neutral treatment - does that imply that the Crown Princess is (or will be) attired in military uniform when attending the same events where the late Prince Consort used military attire?
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Old 03-08-2019, 10:04 AM
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That is interesting in relation to the late Prince's allusions to the differences in treatment of female and male consorts. Apparently the military role of consorts is moving towards more gender-neutral treatment - does that imply that the Crown Princess is (or will be) attired in military uniform when attending the same events where the late Prince Consort used military attire?
That will be interesting to see.

Not to the same extent, I think. I think we will see Mary more in a uniform when it is in a military context, say on the annual Flag Day. In particular when she becomes queen. Mary has after all handled Flag Day commemorations on her own.
But on gala occasions I think we will still see Mary in big dresses rather than uniforms - and I think we should be pleased with that. A king and queen both in uniforms is I think a bit of an overkill, but Mary in a dress providing the feminine contrast to Frederik wearing uniform is fitting I think. - So the New Year Courts are safe.
Another matter is that there simply isn't a gala uniform made for her yet.
The Home Guard doesn't have a gale uniform, only a full dress uniform (which Mary may very well get, especially now that she will soon be captain.*)
But that will be the Army Home Guard dress uniform we will see her wear. We will not see her wear the arguably more attractive looking Navy Home Guard dress uniform. (**)

Even if the heir was a woman, I don't think that would make that big a difference. Women have the privilege of more freedom to maneuver than men in regards to attire. - And may that never change!

(*) As a "civilian volunteer" Mary is already "breaking the rules" by becoming a captain in the Home Guard.

(**) Here is the army full dress uniform for women. Apart from the tent hat, the officer here is wearing, it is identical to the Army Home Guard uniform. Here with pants instead of the optional skirt.
https://scontent-lax3-2.cdninstagram...Njk3Mg%3D%3D.2
And that's the uniform I believe we will see Mary wear in the near future.

Now, had Mary been attached to the Guards Hussars, then we would have been in for a treat! (And keep in mind there is both Isabella and Josephine lurking in the horizon...)
The gala uniform of the Guards Hussars if it had been worn by Mary:
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/n...&itok=zr7IZG2X
The dress uniform of the Guards Hussars, also worn by Mary and with a feminine cut:
https://scontent-atl3-1.cdninstagram...ninstagram.com
The mounted dress uniform:
https://scontent-atl3-1.cdninstagram...ninstagram.com
And finally one for the ladies:
https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram...MzMzOQ%3D%3D.2
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Old 05-03-2021, 02:36 PM
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Crown Princess Mary visited the Jonstrup Camp in the Ballerup Municipality today, May 3:


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** kongehuset: H.K.H. Kronprinsessen besøgte Jonstruplejren **


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Old 05-03-2021, 02:38 PM
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Today Mary visited Jonstrup barracks to visit the Home Guardsmen who have played a role in tracking down infected and potentially infected persons during the pandemic. They also man a hotline where the public can ask various questions and that Mary witnessed as well.
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Old 05-03-2021, 02:40 PM
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That's so lovely to see! I love her attachment to the Home Guard. I feel like Mary's had quite a lot of engagements recently that haven't figured in the DRF's calendar. I wonder why that is?
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Old 05-03-2021, 03:09 PM
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Always enjoy her visits and involvement with the Home Guard.
And like a theme with Frederik and Mary, not everything is on their offcial calendars.
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Old 05-04-2022, 01:40 PM
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Crown Princess Mary attends the Home Guard May 4th parade: https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...il-stor-parade

Photos: https://app.tt.se/bild/q=kronprinses...4%20maj%202022
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Old 05-04-2022, 03:03 PM
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She looks fantastic, very elegant.
I love that she took part, since she did some training with the Home Guard.
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Old 05-04-2022, 03:23 PM
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She looks fantastic, very elegant.
I love that she took part, since she did some training with the Home Guard.
In 2019 she was made Captain in the Home Guard. I wonder if she still participates in some of their military training/exercises?

The first time: Crown Princess Mary managed a new significant role to top marks | BILLED-BLADET (billedbladet.dk)

Article says in part:

Crown Princess Mary participated in her capacity as captain in the Home Guard in the Home Guard's May 4 parade at the Citadel in Copenhagen, where she had complete control of the military agenda.
Normally you mostly see the Queen and the Crown Prince inspect large military parades, but on Wednesday evening it was the Crown Princess who, in her capacity as captain in the Home Guard, had the prominent role.

Thus, Crown Princess Mary was in charge at the Home Guard's May 4 parade, which marks the liberation on May 4, 1945, when the German troops in Denmark surrendered after five years of German occupation.

I'm proud
Crown Princess Mary gave a strong speech during the parade, where she thanked the Home Guard for their efforts.

- A very big thank you for your efforts. You can be proud of that. I am, said the Crown Princess, who began as a private in the Home Guard in 2008.

Link to Video from article: https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...il-topkarakter

How wonderful for Mary to be given this honor and important task!**

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Old 05-04-2022, 03:47 PM
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The Home Guard was formed directly as a consequence of the Occupation 1940-45, under the slogan: Never again a 9th April. - The day DK was occupied.

It was based on a core of former Resistance fighters and people who found the Danish surrender in the morning of 9th April disgraceful.
The purpose of the Home Guard was to set up a citizens militia, who has weapons and ammunition at home and who would continue fighting, regardless. And in the case of an occupation would go underground and keep fighting as a resistance movement.
In that respect the Danish Home Guard is different from say the Swedish Home Guard, that is based on British Territorials, and just like them are mobilization units attached to a regular parent regiment.
The Danish Home Guard work alongside the regular military forces but is under pretty much independent command, fighting in their own neighborhood.

The Home Guard reached it's peak towards the end of the Cold War where almost 1½ % of the total population was a member of the Home Guard.
To put that into perspective, that's equivalent to around 300.000 Australians or some 5 million Americans.

There has been several attempts to disband or at least disarm the Home Guard over the years, but with only limited success.
The regulars were very much against the Home Guard whom they saw as armed "weekend warriors" of very limited military value, especially as many members of the Home Guard would called up to serve in the military anyway in case of a mobilization.
There was admittedly a good deal of truth in that. While a good deal of the members were very active, a just as large group were de facto only members on paper, I.e. very inactive.

Today the Home Guard has been slimmed down and only active members are allowed to stay on. They have been issued much better equipment and get better and more regular training.
The Home Guard today is now more equivalent to the US National Guard. It is still first and foremost for territorial defense, but members of the Army Home Guard in particular are regularly called up to serve abroad, especially for base security, freeing regular soldiers for tasks they are better trained and equipped for.
Members of the Police Home Guard also very regularly perform traffic control and guard crime scenes, freeing police officers for tasks where they of more use.
Especially the navy Home Guard are busy. Having their own small vessels, they are often and quickly called out for all sorts of duties. Coastal patrols, helping civilian boats in distress, investigating pollution, search and rescue and if need be help the police boarding ships (drunk crews sailing through Danish waters is not an uncommon phenomenon!)
The Air Home Guard has gone from being observers on the ground to also operate drones and small planes.

So today hardly anyone are talking about disbanding the Home Guard, because they perform a number of tasks at a very low cost and at a very short notice.

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In 2019 she was made Captain in the Home Guard. I wonder if she still participates in some of their military training/exercises?

The first time: Crown Princess Mary managed a new significant role to top marks | BILLED-BLADET (billedbladet.dk)

Article says in part:

Crown Princess Mary participated in her capacity as captain in the Home Guard in the Home Guard's May 4 parade at the Citadel in Copenhagen, where she had complete control of the military agenda.
Normally you mostly see the Queen and the Crown Prince inspect large military parades, but on Wednesday evening it was the Crown Princess who, in her capacity as captain in the Home Guard, had the prominent role.

Thus, Crown Princess Mary was in charge at the Home Guard's May 4 parade, which marks the liberation on May 4, 1945, when the German troops in Denmark surrendered after five years of German occupation.

I'm proud
Crown Princess Mary gave a strong speech during the parade, where she thanked the Home Guard for their efforts.

- A very big thank you for your efforts. You can be proud of that. I am, said the Crown Princess, who began as a private in the Home Guard in 2008.

Link to Video from article: https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...il-topkarakter

How wonderful for Mary to be given this honor and important task!**
That's because even though she is "only" captain, as the Crown Princess and direct representative of the Commander in Chief, QMII, she outranks everybody else present.
That includes the head of the Home Guard, who is a major general.

In such a situation, Mary is only outranked by QMII herself or Frederik, had they been present.

Had say Joachim been present, he would salute to Mary and he would have inspected the honor guard prior to Mary arriving, because he was the highest ranking until Mary arrives, and to ensure that everything is in order with the honor guard, prior to Mary inspecting it.
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Here are some additional photos of Mary at the Home Guard parade:


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** dm article: Princess Mary looks elegant in a blue pleated dress as she attends The Home Guard parade in Denmark **
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