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11-23-2015, 08:26 PM
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Beatrice admits openly in interviews that she is an atheist. She is not ashamed, nor should she be. It is her belief and her business, private business.
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11-23-2015, 08:33 PM
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lol For exemple I believe in god, but not in the Christian way.
I paticularly think being tied to a religion is not the best choice. But I'm really spiritualized, and already read the bible, i'm interested in budhism and other lines.
I was baptized and I attend weddings, made my first communion, but nowadays don't bother to go to church, but maybe i'll marry in the church. The difference is that I'm not a princess, so I don't need to give example to anyone.
Probably most princesses do those ritual because of political reasons. I don't see the Monaco family being strictly religous, but they go to church because of traditions.
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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23
Beatrice takes communion regularly and so does Letizia. If they were atheists in the strictest sense of the word would they bother? I doubt it.
As for all the posters pointing an accusatory finger at Charlotte for possibly leaving Raphael with a nanny... every single Royal heir on the scene today without exception was both raised by nannies and employs nannies for their own children.
Every one of them! 
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In Beatrice's case, it's be habit. But I agree she's really hypocrital. She said publicly that was atheistic. She isn't princess, does not need an example to anyone. It's hard to take seriously this girl. Letizia is a queen, it can be politics.
Can't compare a working royal like Mary, Letizia or even Charlene, who have duties, travels a lot, so need to have nannies with Charlotte. Also, I particularly never said she should never have nannies.
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Do you realize that most marriages are only civil and that many people who get married in a church don't even believe in God and do it simply because it's their country tradition or in the case of royals because of politics? Beatrice Borromeo is a good example of such a behaviour. Letizia, queen of Spain is even a better exemple.
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Strongly agree with you.
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11-23-2015, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CasiraghiTrio
Beatrice admits openly in interviews that she is an atheist. She is not ashamed, nor should she be. It is her belief and her business, private business.
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Didn't she take communion last week at National Day?
And also had a religious ceremony?
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11-24-2015, 01:07 AM
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Ok, so he never was there because he is inmature or because he is free and creative?
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Huh? I never said Gad was immature. I said that Gad had always been a free spririt who wouldn't change for a kid. He'd never be the 'normal' father. If Charlotte wanted a child that's fine, but my assumption was that it was always her who'd have to do the everyday life with the child, not Gad. No matter if the relationship was on or off.
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11-24-2015, 01:18 AM
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Huh? I never said Gad was immature. I said that Gad had always been a free spririt who wouldn't change for a kid. He'd never be the 'normal' father. If Charlotte wanted a child that's fine, but my assumption was that it was always her who'd have to do the everyday life with the child, not Gad. No matter if the relationship was on or off.
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I agree. Gad is an Entertainer and Artist, with capital letters. He loves his work and can't live without that and will not stop because he has a child. He needs his audience. Some people are like that and there is nothing wrong with that. If Charlotte thought that she could change Gad, she was immature and naive. But if she accepted Gad as he was and wanted a child with him, it was her choice. She wasn't a teenager when she had Raphael. The main thing is that Raphael is well taken care of.
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11-24-2015, 04:03 AM
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Don Luciano Sanfelice di Monteforte (1940)
Heir to the XV Marchese di Monteforte
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Donna Francesca dei conti Negri da Oleggio (1942)
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Don Giovanni.
The future XVI or XVII Marchese di Monteforte will be this Don Giovanni Sanfelice di Monteforte indeed. Don Lamberto Sanfelice di Bagnoli (Charlotte's alleged amant) is Nr 3 in "the line of succession" to the marquessate of Monteforte after his cousin Don Antonio Sanfelice di Bagnoli, the current Nr 2. They are a respected family. A cousin of Don Lamberto is Vice-Admiral (ret.) Don Fernando Sanfelice di Monteforte and was a commander of the NATO-fleet during Operation Endeavour ( see picture).
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According to this site, his cousin is married with a son and a daughter. So he is fourth and unlikely to succeed.
The Heirs of Europe: SANFELICE (VIGGIANO)
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11-24-2015, 04:59 AM
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It's very insulting to people who marry in a register office to suggest they see their marraige as just a piece of paper an of no importance compared to those who marry in a religious service. I hate when some peope hold an opinion on something and then try and attribute it to everyone else to back up their argument. I also don't know how you can have proof that MOST people who marry in Church don't believe in God.Beatrice though really is a hypocrite to continue receiving the Sacrament if she has said she is an athiest, it's actually blasphemous of her to do it.
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11-24-2015, 06:57 AM
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This thread is about the unmarried Charlotte Casiraghi.
No religion please , out of topic !
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11-24-2015, 07:37 AM
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Lets move on and get back on topic,which is Charlotte Casiraghi and Family and not Religion!
Any further off topic posts will be deleted.
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11-24-2015, 08:50 AM
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I just hope Charlotte and the baby will be okay no matter what.
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11-25-2015, 02:49 PM
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Charlotte Casiraghi
Gad & Raphaël in Monaco
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11-25-2015, 05:23 PM
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This can count as a serious 'in your face' to a lot of previous posts :-)
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11-25-2015, 05:44 PM
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So happy to see this ! But still very sad the Relationship is over !
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11-25-2015, 06:49 PM
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Me too, I am sad it is over .
If it is true
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11-25-2015, 08:10 PM
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This can count as a serious 'in your face' to a lot of previous posts :-)
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Nope. Instead of criticizing Charlotte for leaving her son with the nannies, they'll criticize her for spending time with Lamberto while her son is with Gad. They'll say a real woman/mother would wait by the phone 24/7 in case Gad reports a sneeze or fever. Therefore, Charlotte is clearly a bad mother and an immature maneater.
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11-28-2015, 10:25 AM
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mix of video clips .. nice to see .. beautiful Charlotte
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11-28-2015, 07:05 PM
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Nope. Instead of criticizing Charlotte for leaving her son with the nannies, they'll criticize her for spending time with Lamberto while her son is with Gad. They'll say a real woman/mother would wait by the phone 24/7 in case Gad reports a sneeze or fever. Therefore, Charlotte is clearly a bad mother and an immature maneater. 
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Probably. While he is a hero who sacrificed his indomitable free spirit in order to take care for a couple of days of the poor abandoned child.
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11-29-2015, 09:51 AM
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We cannot judge their Situation on Press Pictures.
I don't think Raphael is a poor abandonned Child..
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