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Old 12-27-2015, 10:37 AM
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The Queen is nearly 90 years old to expect her to stop wearing fur is ridiculous. I think she is used to it likes it and that is that.
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We are an omniverous species. We are designed to eat flesh as well as nuts and fruit.
Omniverous doesn't mean we Wear the flesh of other animals, well fur. Are you arguing the queen eats minks and chinchillas?
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The Queen is nearly 90 years old to expect her to stop wearing fur is ridiculous. I think she is used to it likes it and that is that.

If anyone wants to wear fur, they should be able to. Regardless of age/status and without harassment.


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Omniverous doesn't mean we Wear the flesh of other animals, well fur. Are you arguing the queen eats minks and chinchillas?
I am not suggesting any such thing. The quality of being omniverous relates to what an animal eats, not what it might wear. In any event, as far as I know, Homo sapiens is the only extant species that wears body coverings.

I don't expect the Queen to stop wearing fur, I just wish she would.
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Homo sapiens is the only extant species that wears body coverings.
Alas, not so.. some stupid/cruel Humans delight in dressing up their dogs, making them ridiculous as well as uncomfortable !
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I am not suggesting any such thing. The quality of being omniverous relates to what an animal eats, not what it might wear. In any event, as far as I know, Homo sapiens is the only extant species that wears body coverings.

I don't expect the Queen to stop wearing fur, I just wish she would.
Well the debate is about wearing fur not eating meat, so I fail to see what your 'humans are omniverous' has to do with this argument, unless you are implying they are also eating the minks and chinchillas
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Well the debate is about wearing fur not eating meat, so I fail to see what your 'humans are omniverous' has to do with this argument, unless you are implying they are also eating the minks and chinchillas
You're quite right about the wider discussion, but I was responding to the comment about vegetarianism in Muriel's post, No. 70, which was immediately before mine. I shouldn't have though, because that subject is off topic.
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[QUOTE=Roslyn;1851175]I am not suggesting any such thing. The quality of being omniverous relates to what an animal eats, not what it might wear. In any event, as far as I know, Homo sapiens is the only extant species that wears body coverings.

Perhaps because the meagerly hair we are allocated with does not do a sufficient job of keeping us warm. We have to resort to other means of keeping warm. As long as we are using leather and eating meat, neither which are necessary and could easily be replaced with non-animal sources, using the fur for clothing is just fine with me. The use of animals for our own needs are cruel, yet most of us do not blink an eye in eating cheese or putting milk in our tea or cafe latte yet the cows producing the milk is lactating long after the calves have stopped suckling just so we can enjoy the dairy products we want.
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Old 12-28-2015, 05:58 AM
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I'm going to throw my spoonful of barley into the soup here about HM and her use of wearing fur. From what I've gathered from this past holiday in pictures going to service, she's worn a vintage fur coat to one and one with possibly faux fur trimmings or for all we know, fur that has been recycled into a different outfit.

To feel its not right to use animals for clothing is a big issue and personally, I think the issue needs to be taken up with the trappers and the manufacturers that kill these animals and then make clothing from them for retail. If that is stopped as William is trying to do with illegal poaching, its a step in the right direction.

HM wearing a fur coat that has been hers for a long time isn't going to bring the animal back and I believe that HM is very much like many of her generation that believes in "waste not, want not" just as it would be a crime to destroy every precious item of ivory that already do exist.

My stance is that I prefer to wear fur that still has the animal in it but I do have a beautiful suede jacket with mink panels that was my mother's. Would I feel wrong wearing it out? No.

ETA: As far as the milk, cheese and dairy issues presented, I see that as a gift from an animal that is still living.
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As usual Osipi, you make PERFECT sense..

IMO 'New' furs or ivory items are just WRONG [given the cruelty/endangered species issues], but the use of old items made of these materials is fine. Nothing would be achieved by destroying them, or locking them away.
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New exhibition at Holyrood this yr has been highlighted by the Telegraph in this article

How the Queen conquered America in a stunning Norman Hartnell dress - Telegraph

Example of Hartnell dress which is amazing - worn on her US visit in 1957

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...l_3567783a.jpg
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:22 PM
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Her Majesty is back in town!

And she's wearing one of the best outfits I've ever seen on her- really chic and modern.

The Queen sports an elegant polka dot coat to board a train in King's Lynn | Daily Mail Online

It looks as though there is some sort of zipper wizardry on both the coat and the dress, but maybe it's some other kind of trim.
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I like that coat.


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Old 02-08-2016, 08:56 PM
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I really like the coat I am so used to her in brighter shades, but this is a nice change.
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The coat and dress look amazing on Her Majesty - it's so different and fresh and such an unusual style for her. For me, the last time she did something different like this was when she left hospital after her knee operation a few years ago in a sharp grey trouser suit.
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She wore that outfit in Germany last year.

The coat and dress:
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Q...xrneKCcc2l.jpg

The dress:
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Q...f3t_yxZkyl.jpg
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Old 02-09-2016, 03:49 AM
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I like very very much this coat from Queen!

Queen Elizabeth II Wears Black 2016: Photo : People.com
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Old 02-17-2016, 01:29 AM
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The Queen yesterday to the Gold Service scholarship event is just amazing!!!!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...5654490993.jpg
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I like the colour of HM's outfit but I find it a little boring overall.
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Old 03-12-2016, 02:43 AM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/e...ners-new-coll/

Here's proof that Queen Elizabeth was on every designer's new collection moodboard!
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