General News about Frederik, Mary and Family 5: December 2009 - July 2010 - Page 8

Tricota · #**141** 03-27-2010, 07:02 AM

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The google tranlastion was an extra for other readers who couldn't read the original.
I should of made the space between your comment and the translation a bit bigger.

No worries.

Duke of Marmalade · #**142** 03-27-2010, 07:40 AM

I think that Mary was just the unlucky family member of the DRF who was around at the time. If Fred hadnt been sailing it would have been him or both.
I am currently in Australia and Mary apparently getting a dressing down from the Queen is big news out here. The perfect princess failing for the first time - the fact that this issue is being presented that way in the usual media will be highly annoying to Mary.

Royals should think twice who they engage with IN PUBLIC (they do a lot of stuff hidden from the public anyway) therefore its a good lesson, the Danes get away with a lot of things compared to other royal houses, now they have to be extra careful, maybe thats why Margrethe apparently reacted so angrily, because there will be more scrutiny and less privileges that are not subject to polemic from now on.

Of all members of the DRF, Mary is probably the one member who didnt deserve to be caught, she might only have attended on her sailing husband's behalf.

UserDane · #**143** 03-27-2010, 07:59 AM

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....maybe thats why Margrethe apparently reacted so angrily.

Please, someone enlighten me! I live in Denmark, I read - fairly regularly - Danish newspapers, browse online tabloids once in a while - and still I have not come across one credible source that queen Margrethe has reacted angrily. Please, someone, direct me to the closest thing of proof that the queen has reacted in this way.

I have only seen hearsay and speculation.

Duke, this is not meant as a reaction to your post in particular

Lumutqueen · #**144** 03-27-2010, 08:26 AM

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Please, someone enlighten me! I live in Denmark, I read - fairly regularly - Danish newspapers, browse online tabloids once in a while - and still I have not come across one credible source that queen Margrethe has reacted angrily. Please, someone, direct me to the closet thing of proof that the queen has reacted in this way.

I have only seen hearsay and speculation.

There isn't one credible source to say she reacted badly.

Mary faces mum-in-law fury Today's News - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania

this is the only article that says

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A "furious" Queen Margrethe issued a stern warning to Mary over the affair, the magazine Se Og Hoer reported.

which wasn't said by any press secretary of the DRF.

UserDane · #**145** 03-27-2010, 09:02 AM

Exactly. Somehow, all these foreign reports all go back to some reporter at Se og Hør or Her og Nu. These two magazine live and thrive on gossip and rumours about celebrities and royals.

Don't the media exercise any kind of source critique anymore ??

wombat · #**146** 03-27-2010, 09:39 AM

There is also an article in the OK Magazine in Australia which I saw today, sorry don't know how to scan ot attach it to this site....

Madame Royale · #**147** 03-27-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

I think that Mary was just the unlucky family member of the DRF who was around at the time. If Fred hadnt been sailing it would have been him or both.
I am currently in Australia and Mary apparently getting a dressing down from the Queen is big news out here. The perfect princess failing for the first time - the fact that this issue is being presented that way in the usual media will be highly annoying to Mary.

Royals should think twice who they engage with IN PUBLIC (they do a lot of stuff hidden from the public anyway) therefore its a good lesson, the Danes get away with a lot of things compared to other royal houses, now they have to be extra careful, maybe thats why Margrethe apparently reacted so angrily, because there will be more scrutiny and less privileges that are not subject to polemic from now on.

Of all members of the DRF, Mary is probably the one member who didnt deserve to be caught, she might only have attended on her sailing husband's behalf.

Welcome, Duke of Marmalade. I wish you a safe and wonderful time here in Australia. I hope your travels bring you to Melbourne if they haven't already

Though in regards to the impression it's left, I must disgaree with you. The whole "dressing down" saga isn't what I'd called big news here at all. There was a mention of it in a few papers and and one or two glossy mags perhaps (which is quite normal), but that's it. Yesterday's "news" is todays fish 'n' chips wrappings.

I don't believe this will effect the Crown Princess' image at all and neither should it. It's seems well an truly water under the bridge. Here anyway.

Duke of Marmalade · #**148** 03-27-2010, 04:54 PM

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Welcome, Duke of Marmalade. I wish you a safe and wonderful time here in Australia. I hope your travels bring you to Melbourne if they haven't already

Though in regards to the impression it's left, I must disgaree with you. The whole "dressing down" saga isn't what I'd called big news here at all. There was a mention of it in a few papers and and one or two glossy mags perhaps (which is quite normal), but that's it. Yesterday's "news" is todays fish 'n' chips wrappings.

I don't believe this will effect the Crown Princess' image at all and neither should it. It's seems well an truly water under the bridge. Here anyway.

THanks - left Melbourne yesterday

The "news" was in the daily newspapers that usually do not cover royalty at all, except for issues like Prince Charles going to Helmand province etc. I think the fact that a spokesperson for the DRF reacted in some way to this event and felt the need to issue a comment indicates that there was some kind of friction about Mary attending an event with Ms Zobel involved. Maybe there was a dressing down, maybe there wasnt but for sure they did not like the coverage and for sure Mary will not like the resulting coverage.

Madame Royale · #**149** 03-27-2010, 09:14 PM

The press spokeswoman's comment was brief and uncomitting, though. It doesn't suggest the slightest inclination of friction between Mary and her mother in-law.

Here in Australia, most papers will write about Mary so that isn't something uncommon. Some articles are bigger in some papers, in others they can be much smaller. Though largely, our media remains relatively undiscriminatory in that way.

I think most take any such "news" with a 'pinch of salt'. Especially when it's relayed to the gloss mags

Katrianna · #**150** 03-28-2010, 12:54 AM

Headlines and stories carrying such stories as the Crown Princess getting a dressing down by a furious Queen mother-in-law sells magazines and newspapers. It's all an effort to bring in business.

greenways · #**151** 03-28-2010, 05:53 AM

Agreed Katrianna, the tabloids presumably weren't in the room (when the Queen spoke to Mary), to know how she spoke or exactly what she said, so they have put their own spin on things as usual. And because Mary is generally very careful, this was a chance to 'have a go"... at Mary.

Sereta · #**152** 03-30-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Madame Royale

The press spokeswoman's comment was brief and uncomitting, though. It doesn't suggest the slightest inclination of friction between Mary and her mother in-law.

Here in Australia, most papers will write about Mary so that isn't something uncommon. Some articles are bigger in some papers, in others they can be much smaller. Though largely, our media remains relatively undiscriminatory in that way.

I think most take any such "news" with a 'pinch of salt'. Especially when it's relayed to the gloss mags

Exactly! I think most people know not to take this sort of thing seriously. By next week it will blow over and be forgotten.

JessRulz · #**153** 03-31-2010, 01:34 AM

Frederik and Mary's hofchef (Head of Household/etc), Per Thornit, has resigned his post and will complete his duties at the end of April. Thornit has been with the Royal Family since 1985, working in various posts including secretary to Frederik and Joachim from 1990-2004. Queen Margrethe has given him the position of Treasury Officer of the Danish Royal Orders once he finishes his post with Frederik and Mary.

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ashelen · #**154** 03-31-2010, 01:57 AM

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Frederik and Mary's hofchef (Head of Household/etc), Per Thornit, has resigned his post and will complete his duties at the end of April. Thornit has been with the Royal Family since 1985, working in various posts including secretary to Frederik and Joachim from 1990-2004. Queen Margrethe has given him the position of Treasury Officer of the Danish Royal Orders once he finishes his post with Frederik and Mary.

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so he was not obligated to resign, he got a new job taking care of the Royal orders, I do not know where I read but I thoguht that they make him to resing?????

ricarda · #**155** 03-31-2010, 02:42 AM

Note the difference between "post" and "position". It's not really a new job but a way to honour a person who has done an excellent service for the royal house.
According to this article in Billed-Bladet it was Per Thornit's wish to resign: Billed-Bladet - Mary og Frederiks hofchef fratrÃ¦der sin stilling
He is 68 and I guess he wants to retire.

ashelen · #**156** 03-31-2010, 10:50 AM

well i can understand at this age he probably wants to enjoy life too! and taking care of the orders i am sure it is like a part time job, i wonder what he has to do or what is his durty with the orders?

Madame Royale · #**157** 03-31-2010, 11:37 AM

Whoever should be his replacement, I hope they maintain the level of service and sound advice Per Thornit has provided over the years.

sgl · #**158** 03-31-2010, 11:42 AM

I agree, Madame Royale. He or she has some very big shoes to fill. Per Thornit has been an excellent and loyal employee for the royal family. I have read that he will still continue to work for the family by working in administration of the royal orders.

princess gertrude · #**159** 03-31-2010, 09:25 PM

At 68, I think he might deserve a little downtime. It was very nice of the Queen to give him an honorary position.

MARG · #**160** 03-31-2010, 09:42 PM

Wow! What a furore over an event that never occurred. Namely the Queen reprimanding Mary, over a dinner she attended. I am sure that over the years Queen Margrethe has cautioned Mary, given her invaluable advice, supported her unswervingly, and adores her daughter-in-law. A fact she has said publically herself.

This does not make for good headlines. So off the paparazzi go chasing unicorns . . . . . . yet again.