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07-08-2008, 10:15 AM
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I believe if the child is born on U.S. soil it automatically has citizenship.
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07-08-2008, 09:28 PM
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I believe if the child is born on U.S. soil it automatically has citizenship.
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Yes they are automatically US citizens. But if I'm not mistaken they also gain citizenship of the country that their parents are from as well. That happened to my friend's brother. But at the age of 18 he had to choose which country he wanted to be a citizen of.
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07-09-2008, 04:34 AM
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I believe if the child is born on U.S. soil it automatically has citizenship.
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But Marie Chantal is US citizen, isn't she??? If yes, her children are not automatically US citizens?
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07-09-2008, 01:16 PM
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My two older children were born in California. Their father is an American, so they both have American passports and also Brazilian, from my side.
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07-09-2008, 05:35 PM
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But Marie Chantal is US citizen, isn't she??? If yes, her children are not automatically US citizens?
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I believe that Marie Chantal has dual citizenship in the US and the UK. She was born in Hong Kong, during the time that it was part of the UK, and her entire family has been living in London for a while. I know that Pavlos is a UK citizen and probably also has dual citizenship in the US.
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07-09-2008, 05:58 PM
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MC has dual citizenship US & British. Pavlos has a Danish passport. I do not know how difficult it is for someone to obtain a British passport but in the US if one is born here, becomes a US citizen automatically.
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07-09-2008, 11:15 PM
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I always thought that a child automatically had the same citizenship status as their parents
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07-10-2008, 11:43 AM
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I believe that Marie Chantal has dual citizenship in the US and the UK. She was born in Hong Kong, during the time that it was part of the UK, and her entire family has been living in London for a while. I know that Pavlos is a UK citizen and probably also has dual citizenship in the US.
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I believe she was born in London and raised in Hong Kong for a great deal of her childhood. I don't know why Pavlos would have dual citizenship in the US.
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07-10-2008, 11:51 AM
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I did not say that Pavlos has dual citizenship. Pavlos cannot obtain a Greek passport because of the last name issue. He has a Danish passport. Since their little boy was born in the US , he will become a US citizen,automatically, regardless of his parents' citizen status in the US or any other country.
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07-10-2008, 02:53 PM
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a christian orthodox family doesn't have to announce the baby's name immediately.the christening can take place several months later.perhaps they still think about it.
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I have a friend who is Orthodox and she said the baby is usually baptized within 40 days after birth. But I know some Orthodox children who were not baptized until a year after birth so who knows.
Their baptismal ceremonies are very elaborate and beautiful.
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07-10-2008, 02:58 PM
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Wow! Big baby! Thanks for the information -
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07-10-2008, 03:46 PM
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Thank you for this link. I like the baby's name (if the article is correct).
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07-10-2008, 03:55 PM
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I have a friend who is Orthodox and she said the baby is usually baptized within 40 days after birth. But I know some Orthodox children who were not baptized until a year after birth so who knows.
Their baptismal ceremonies are very elaborate and beautiful.
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CD They get immersed in water 3 times (hence baptised) it is mighty difficult to grab a 40 day old baby by the underarms and dip it three times in the Holy water. G O babies are usually get baptised around 9 months or so.
I just baptised a baby 11 months old who almost kept a conversation going during the ceremony..LOL
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07-10-2008, 04:56 PM
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I believe she was born in London and raised in Hong Kong for a great deal of her childhood. I don't know why Pavlos would have dual citizenship in the US.
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Bob Miller renounced his US citizenship in the 60s so MC might not be a US citizen at all since neither of her parents were US citizens at the time of her birth and she was born in the UK. MC only lived in the US for 15 years before moving to London so she has spent less than half of her life in the US.
I agree. There would be no reason for Pavlos to be a dual citizen of the US.
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07-10-2008, 07:14 PM
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I think that the child was born in the U.S, because Marie Chantal had many problems with her fourth son.it is a Hospital very prestigious
I think that the child is not interested in having U.S. citizenship.
Why?
Because the Brussels Convention states that European citizens can travel at any state of the European Union without a passport, for this reason Constatino can travel to Greece with a Danish passport.
But if he had the passport of the U.S.,Greece can prevent it from entering its territory
I think that Paul has Danish citizenship, so he travel to Greece without problems.
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07-10-2008, 07:16 PM
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Thanks for the article. Not sure about the name though. I personally don't like Aristidis but I do like Stavros
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07-10-2008, 07:20 PM
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I can't get the link to open. I am having some server problems. Did the article give any insight as to why she gave birth in L.A.? Was it simply for medical reasons or was it more to do with the opening of a new Marie Chantal shop?
Thanks!!
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07-10-2008, 10:58 PM
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I think that the child was born in the U.S, because Marie Chantal had many problems with her fourth son.it is a Hospital very prestigious
I think that the child is not interested in having U.S. citizenship.
Why?
How do we know this?
Because the Brussels Convention states that European citizens can travel at any state of the European Union without a passport, for this reason Constatino can travel to Greece with a Danish passport.
But if he had the passport of the U.S.,Greece can prevent it from entering its territory
King Constantine cannot obtain a US passport even if he wanted one. I have a US passport and get in and out of Greece with no problems.
I think that Paul has Danish citizenship, so he travel to Greece without problems.
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Pavlos has a Danish passport given to the family when they were refused Greek passports.
The issue of the GRF entering Greece with no problems has been resolved years ago. The issue of them being able to regain their Greek citizenship is in limbo because of the insistene of the Greek government that they adopt a last name and their refusal to do so.
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CD They get immersed in water 3 times (hence baptised) it is mighty difficult to grab a 40 day old baby by the underarms and dip it three times in the Holy water. G O babies are usually get baptised around 9 months or so.
I just baptised a baby 11 months old who almost kept a conversation going during the ceremony..LOL
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But Mariy Olympis was younger at ther christening. I think it took place in December 1996 around 4-5 months after her birth. And also the christening of Pavlos and Alexia took place not to long after theri birth.
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