York Family News and Pictures 2: September 2015

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by eya

York Family all together to support Prince Andrew on parade today for The Colonel’s Review

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It looks like Sarah is definitely part of the family again as she has been seen with Andrew a lot lately in his events. Why don't they remarry and make it official ?

[Countessmeout]

Not neccesarily, Jack started attending events a few years before they were engaged. Jack even was making trips to Balmoral in 2016, more then a year before they were engaged. Though I don't think they will have a long courtship, I'd be surprised if engaged this year. While this was an official event, it was still only with the immediate York family (not the queen and such). Its likely a good thing to give any man dating one of the girls a chance to feel what being married into this family is like. Marrying a female royal, they will remain private citizens, but still its an adjustment. Attending something like this gives a small glimpse.

What ever Andrew and Sarah's relationship is it works for the two of them. And more, it works for their daughters.No matter their divorce, they have always managed to successfully co-parent their daughters.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

What ever Andrew and Sarah's relationship is it works for the two of them. And more, it works for their daughters.No matter their divorce, they have always managed to successfully co-parent their daughters.

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

I don’t see why there has to be anything going on, other than a family supporting one another. They’re not keeping anything a secret, they’re just showing they’re a family.

True, it is not as significant as, for example, Sarah being at the Trump state dinner or at the balcony on Trooping the Colours, which of course she will not be, but Sarah and Andrew arrived together at Lady Gabriella's wedding (a family event) and now she shows up again at the Colonel's review, which is an official ceremony. And she has been officially listed for quite some time as a member of the Royal Family by the Palace. It is clear (to me) that, at least, Andrew and Sarah have something going on that goes beyond just co-parenting their (now adult) daughters.



I think Sarah may still want that HRH title back, but is still not sure about it. And I don't know how the Queen and Prince Philip would feel about that.

[Biri]

I wouldn't be surprised seeing them both together on a walk cooing over the baby pram (with their first grandchild inside of course) in the near future.

[Leopoldine]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

True, it is not as significant as, for example, Sarah being at the Trump state dinner or at the balcony on Trooping the Colours, which of course she will not be, but Sarah and Andrew arrived together at Lady Gabriella's wedding (a family event) and now she shows up again at the Colonel's review, which is an official ceremony. And she has been officially listed for quite some time as a member of the Royal Family by the Palace. It is clear (to me) that, at least, Andrew and Sarah have something going on that goes beyond just co-parenting their (now adult) daughters.



I think Sarah may still want that HRH title back, but is still not sure about it. And I don't know how the Queen and Prince Philip would feel about that.

Actually, Sarah may very well be at the State dinner for Trump. She knows him personally. They socialized in NY in the 1990s. There's at least one picture out there of Sarah sitting next to him at some event. He had been quoted in the NY newspapers praising her "bubbly personality."

[Pranter]

I really don't see Sarah going to the State Dinner.


LaRae

[Moonmaiden23]

He(Trump) also made comments disparaging her looks compared to her sister in law Diana.

Good thing Sarah seems not to hold grudges.

Still, if she is at ANY State dinner in the near future I will eat my hat.

[Pranter]

The only way that would happen, IMO, is if she and Andrew remarried (which I don't think will ever happen).


LaRae

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Pranter

The only way that would happen, IMO, is if she and Andrew remarried (which I don't think will ever happen).


LaRae

Many people thought Charles and Camilla would never get married and they did. It appears to me that Andrew and Sarah are more or less openly paving the way for a remarriage and allowing the press and royal watchers to get used to the idea (not unlike Charles and Camilla before they married).

[rmay286]

Count me among those who thought Charles and Camilla would never marry. I was fairly shocked to open up a royal forum one day and find out they were engaged.

Could be similar with Andrew and Sarah...but it all depends on if they want to remarry, I guess.

[Osipi]

Right now, I don't think it matters to either Sarah or Andrew if they marry again. What they have seems to work just fine for them and has worked for them for many, many years.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Osipi

Right now, I don't think it matters to either Sarah or Andrew if they marry again. What they have seems to work just fine for them and has worked for them for many, many years.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I haven't followed them very closely over the years, but it appears to me that their "arrangement", whatever it is, has moved up a notch recently. They have always co-parented their daughters and even shared a home, but they were not seen together in public events the way they are now. It is almost like they want people to see that they are not just good friends, but are actually in a relationship.

[Pranter]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

Many people thought Charles and Camilla would never get married and they did. It appears to me that Andrew and Sarah are more or less openly paving the way for a remarriage and allowing the press and royal watchers to get used to the idea (not unlike Charles and Camilla before they married).

Different situation ...apples and oranges.



LaRae

[Leopoldine]

It seems to me that there are enough senior BRF members who have been quoted as saying negative things about Trump to draft in more unconventional royal-connected people at the State Visit events. I see a place for Sarah at the table.

The Queen has always been an unpolitical host when welcoming heads of state on behalf of her government. Let's hope her family members can be as diplomatic as their monarch.

[Osipi]

I really don't have an opinion on Sarah being at the State Banquet for the US to UK state visit. I'm going to leave that up to the Queen. She has a good relationship with Sarah and if she deems that Sarah should be there, Sarah will be. If the Queen decides it wouldn't be appropriate, Sarah won't be there.

Simple.

[Dman]

I’m trying not to jinx the possibility of a remarriage between those two. I’m just enjoying what’s going on right now for the York family.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

I haven't followed them very closely over the years, but it appears to me that their "arrangement", whatever it is, has moved up a notch recently. They have always co-parented their daughters and even shared a home, but they were not seen together in public events the way they are now.

I agree with the comment that it appears that the relationship has indeed "moved up a notch recently". It may just be co-incidence, but they do seem to have appeared at quite a lot of events together.

Originally Posted by Mbruno

It is almost like they want people to see that they are not just good friends, but are actually in a relationship.

Indeed. And if that is the way they want to go, that is entirely their choice.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

Why don't they remarry and make it official ?

I actually think remarriage will be a really bad idea. It will bring an expectation of some sort of a public role for Sarah, and I think at that point, she will expose herself to a lot of potential criticism, justifiable or otherwise.

It is somewhat unfortunate, but I also think that even a reduced public role for Sarah, as the wife of the DoY, will not find much favour with the Queen or Charles, as it will be an unnecessary distraction for the BRF.

IMO, they are probably better off continuing with their current arrangements, and increasingly, have Sarah present as Andrew's consort on appropriate events.

[Countessmeout]

I don't get this concept that Elizabeth, Charles and William are so concerned about keeping all the spotlight on them, they have to step on everyone and shove them into the shadows. The 'they are going to drive Harry and Meghan off to Africa because the couple is stealing too much spotlight from the heir' and now the 'Andrew cant remarry because it will steel some tiny bit of attention from the heir'.

I love people seem to think the queen and Charles, and William are all so ridiculously insecure in their position that they need to make sure no one else has a moment of attention

The reality is Sarah is not going to 'divert attention' from the heirs. Any more then Sophie or any others in the family have.

As for comparing them to Charles and Camilla there is no comparison. Charles and Camilla could have 'eased the public into things' until they died, and much of the public would never have approved. Camilla was involved in the break up of Charles marriage to a woman who is considered a Saint to many of the fans out there. Over a decade of marriage later and still many people have not warmed up to the whole situation.

Sarah and Andrew were married in the first place. There is no hurt party to consider in this matter. Letting Fergie start coming slowly to more events has allowed her to ease back into the limelight a bit. If they do remarry, she will be in the limelight a bit, not at the level of Camilla or Kate and Meghan but still like Sophie. The fact she wont be the future queen consort helps.


I am not sure they will remarry. If they do, I think it may wait until Charles is king. A small part because as the brother of the king, and not the son of the queen, Andrew is a bit further back. I am also not entirely sure Philip or the queen would fully approve.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

I don't get this concept that Elizabeth, Charles and William are so concerned about keeping all the spotlight on them, they have to step on everyone and shove them into the shadows. ....

The reality is Sarah is not going to 'divert attention' from the heirs. Any more then Sophie or any others in the family have.

I don't believe Sarah will will steal the spotlight from the monarch and heirs per se. However, if history is anything to go by, there is a reasonable chance that she will do or say something wholly inappropriate, and potentially bring disrepute to the BRF. The Firm is suitably insulated as long as she is the long divorced wife of Andrew, a position they will lose if she were to be HRH The Duchess of York once again.

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

The 'they are going to drive Harry and Meghan off to Africa because the couple is stealing too much spotlight from the heir' .......

With respect, I think this is just some nonsense thought up by the tabloids to keep the clicks coming.

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

I am not sure they will remarry. If they do, I think it may wait until Charles is king. A small part because as the brother of the king, and not the son of the queen, Andrew is a bit further back. I am also not entirely sure Philip or the queen would fully approve.

I think that makes sense, and if they were to remarry, it may well be in the next reign.

My bigger point is that I am no tsure marriage will bring that much more to Sarah and Andrew than the current position. They appear to be enjoying the benefits of being a couple, without the responsibilities that may come with them being married, and that must be a good thing from their perpsective.