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Old 09-26-2019, 07:32 AM
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Congratulations to Beatrice and Eduardo.

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Old 09-26-2019, 07:38 AM
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Edo and Bea deserves each other! I love them both!
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Old 09-26-2019, 07:38 AM
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Beautiful couple! Congratulations to Beatrice and Edo!

Beatrice deserves to celebrate her nuptials however she wants and not fair linking her to her fathers scandal. She hasn’t done anything wrong
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I am not certain how to weigh this in. Although Bea and Edo look very happy the Epstein scandal will hang over this wedding like a cloud especially with the father and mother of the bride tied to it. The gossip press will bring it up constantly and the Southern District of New York will not back off or change the timetable of its case because Bea is getting married. The optics would have to be careful and a splashy Windsor wedding with the carriage may not go down well. Best of luck to the couple.
Please, just give it a rest for a bit. I’m tired of Epstein being thrown into every thread. Just be happy for Beatrice-the wedding is months from now.

I hope Edo is good to her, she seems like a lovely young woman. I wish them a long, happy life together.
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Old 09-26-2019, 07:48 AM
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Why last?
What about Louise and James?
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Old 09-26-2019, 07:48 AM
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Congratulation to the couple!

Isn't Edoardo an Italian count, I was wondering why the announcement says Mr Edoardo instead of count Edoardo!
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Old 09-26-2019, 07:55 AM
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Congrats!! Bea deserve happiness!
I wonder if the reason they used Mr instead of Count it's because in Italy titles are worthless today or other reasons
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Old 09-26-2019, 07:56 AM
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The full formal announcement:

Her Royal Highness Princess Beatrice of York and Mr. Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi are engaged to be married | The Royal Family

HRH PRINCESS BEATRICE OF YORK AND MR. EDOARDO MAPELLI MOZZI ARE ENGAGED TO BE MARRIED | The Duke of York

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Her Royal Highness Princess Beatrice of York and Mr. Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi are engaged to be married

Published 26 September 2019

The Duke and Duchess of York are delighted to announce the engagement of Her Royal Highness Princess Beatrice of York to Mr. Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi.

Her Royal Highness and Mr. Mapelli Mozzi became engaged while away for the weekend in Italy earlier this month.

The wedding will take place in 2020. Further details will be announced in due course.

Princess Beatrice and Mr. Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi said, “We are extremely happy to be able to share the news of our recent engagement. We are both so excited to be embarking on this life adventure together and can’t wait to be married. We share so many similar interests and values and we know this will stand us in great stead for the years ahead, full of love and happiness.”

The Duke and Duchess of York said, “We are thrilled that Beatrice and Edoardo have got engaged, having watched their relationship develop with pride. We are the lucky parents of a wonderful daughter who has found her love and companion in a completely devoted friend and loyal young man. We send them every good wish for a wonderful family future.”

Mrs. Nikki Williams-Ellis and Mr. Alessandro Mapelli Mozzi said, “We are truly delighted about Edoardo and Beatrice’s engagement. Our family has known Beatrice for most of her life. Edo and Beatrice are made for each other, and their happiness and love for each other is there for all to see. They share an incredibly strong and united bond, their marriage will only strengthen what is already a wonderful relationship.”

Notes to editors

Three photographs of HRH Princess Beatrice and Mr. Mapelli Mozzi are available for use via the Press Association. Copyright for the photographs is vested in HRH Princess Eugenie.
The personal statement from the couple is lovely and their happiness shines through.

As with the announcement of Princess Eugenie's engagement, the princess's parents are styled "The Duke and Duchess of York". Contrary to what has been widely reported, the father of Edoardo is apparently not using a title of pretense at this time, as he is listed as Mr. Alessandro Mapelli Mozzi. Unlike last year's announcement, the wedding location is not included.

Granted that Edo Mapelli Mozzi is British, has affirmed that he is solely a British citizen, and appears closer to his (British) maternal family, I nevertheless wonder if the choice of Italy for the engagement suggests he retains some ties to the country of his paternal family.


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Congratulation to the couple!

Isn't Edoardo an Italian count, I was wondering why the announcement says Mr Edoardo instead of count Edoardo!
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Congrats!! Bea deserve happiness!
I wonder if the reason they used Mr instead of Count it's because in Italy titles are worthless today or other reasons
Italian titles of nobility were abolished with the enactment of the constitution of 1948. Although some members of former noble lineages continue to use their families' former titles as pretended titles, Edo has never done so.

Recognition of Italian Nobiliary Titles - Regalis
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Old 09-26-2019, 08:10 AM
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Interesting, wonder if for privet family events in UK and even maybe in the continent (ex the wedding of the prince Napoleon ) they will refer to them with the Italian title or not cause I quite like the sound of HRH Countess Beatrice Mapelli-Mozzi!
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Old 09-26-2019, 08:19 AM
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Congratulations to Beatrice and Edoardo.
I was expecting this announcement sooner than later.
Can’t wait for another royal wedding!!
And in my opinion, it’s going to take people’s mind off the Epstein controversy for a while.
Who doesn’t love a royal wedding?

By the way, isn’t her ring so similar to the Queens?
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Old 09-26-2019, 08:41 AM
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For accuracy, Sarah, Duchess of York is not The Duchess of York.
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Old 09-26-2019, 08:44 AM
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What wonderful, happy news to start off today with! They look so happy together.

Reading the official engagement announcement, I had to smile as the statement from Andrew and Sarah stated that they wish them a very happy family life. It seems like they're including Wolfie in the statement.

I love having yet another royal wedding to look forward to in 2020. Now we can start the musings threads about it. Right?

@Madame Verseau: Nobody is going to force us to read the tabloids and any kind of gossip or insinuations or anything that they can dream up. Beatrice and Edo probably won't pay them any attention and neither will I. This couple will have the wedding they want regardless of anything else floating around.
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Princess Eugenie seems to be a skilled photographer as well as a loving sister; both the pictures and her message of congraulations are very sweet.

While it is early to speculate, it would be lovely if Edoardo's son could play a part in the wedding, much like Marius Borg Høiby in 2001. I wonder if the royal marriage will have any effect on his living arrangements, depending on the couple's eventual family home. Based on the reported comments from the family, it seems he initially lived primarily with his father in a small apartment after his parents' separation, but the arrangements were revised so that he lived primarily with his mother after she relocated into a new home.


I hope the public and the press will refrain from attempting to tie the couple, their wedding and their marriage to the ongoing questions and revelations about the bride's father. His daughters and sons-in-law bear no responsibility of any kind for his actions.
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Although it was inevitable for Epstein to be mentioned you managed to be the first to bring it up...
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Please, just give it a rest for a bit. I’m tired of Epstein being thrown into every thread. Just be happy for Beatrice-the wedding is months from now.

I hope Edo is good to her, she seems like a lovely young woman. I wish them a long, happy life together.

Just ignore her. Stirring the pot is what apparently floats her boat.

On topic: Congratulations on Beatrice and Eduardo. Now both York girls are off the market and this generation is married. To adapt a statement from Prof.Mr. Pieter van Vollenhoven of The Netherlands: the York family are sold out.
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Old 09-26-2019, 08:50 AM
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Congratulations to Beatrice and Edo. I wonder if they will do a short engagement interview like Eugenie and Jack did with The One Show.
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Old 09-26-2019, 08:54 AM
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Why last?
What about Louise and James?

Louise and James are from the next generation, not this.
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Old 09-26-2019, 08:55 AM
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Not surprised! I did think we'd not hear this till November but neat...so more details likely to be out by end of year.

Beatrice looks very happy!

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Why last?
What about Louise and James?
They won't have 'royal' weddings. Their parents did not want them to be HRH.



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Congratulation to the couple!

Isn't Edoardo an Italian count, I was wondering why the announcement says Mr Edoardo instead of count Edoardo!
From what I read a few months ago, the title is not recognized anywhere outside whatever part of Italy it's from. I don't think even his father uses the title.



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Old 09-26-2019, 08:59 AM
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Louise and James are from the next generation, not this.
As grandchildren of Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip, Louise and James belong to the same generation as Princess Beatrice.
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Old 09-26-2019, 09:03 AM
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Why last?
What about Louise and James?
I think what the poster probably meant was "the last" of the Queen/Prince Philip's adult grandchildren. Louise and James are also their grandchildren, but they are still very young, and sometimes we almost think of them as great grandchildren generation.
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Old 09-26-2019, 09:03 AM
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From what I read a few months ago, the title is not recognized anywhere outside whatever part of Italy it's from. I don't think even his father uses the title.



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This website states "Although he enjoys the title of "Count" he is a British subject and technically cannot use a foreign title in this country. Foreign styles and titles were confined to those who received a Royal Warrant from King George V in 1932."

https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/201...-princess.html
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Old 09-26-2019, 09:06 AM
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Ah ok thanks Gawin! So basically it's just part of the family history unless one of them decides to go live in a country that recognizes the title or allows them to use it.


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Old 09-26-2019, 09:12 AM
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What happy news to start the morning!! So glad to have a Royal Wedding to look forward to amidst all the gloom and strife in the world!:

I think Edo's statement to Beatrice about having a permanent home in his heart forever is the most romantic thing ever......

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