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Old 01-01-2008, 10:39 AM
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I agree with comments in the difference between what American men look like, physically, and European men - in America we range from overweight to thin. I don't think there is one "look" that men have here, there is a range - sometimes depending upon where you live in the country (states known for a more outdoor lifestyle tend to have more fit people; middle of the country tends to be fatter). In Europe there seems to be trendy looks that a lot of men seem to adopt, universally - right now, that look (to us Americans) is quite thin for men. I think Andrea is a trendy guy, and right now, he's trending toward a more thin frame - we've all seen him looking more fit and healthier, but I think he's just keeping up w/a certain trend going on there in Europe at the moment. As long as he's clean shaven, I like his look!
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Old 01-01-2008, 10:50 AM
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I forgot to wish all a Happy New Year, but now I'll say it. We know the last few years, Andrea and Tatiana have been spending it in Brazil, but does anyone know what they did this year - I guess we'll wait for pictures.
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Old 01-01-2008, 12:00 PM
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I find some of the comments on here ridiculous & speculative. "looks like he has cancer", "anorexic", "eat" ... Nobody has the right to throw around words like that. Some guys are naturally very thin, my Brother is 25 & the exact same - he's super fit, eats all the time but just really thin - Andrea & Pierre are the exact same - their Father was also thin. He doesn't look any different to the hundreds of other guys you see in Paris, London, Stockholm, Milan, Amsterdam etc or many celebs [orlando, jude, zac efron, chace crawford etc]... He just has a typical male high fashion model physique - tall & thin. He's not in America! the whole jock, meathead, muscle body isn't really very European & most Euro guys don't strive for that - they'd rather just be athletic & lean I guess. Someone said he needs to go to the gym - why? If he's happy with his weight / body then why should he go to the gym? To please people on this board?!! In the summer pics his body looks fine - his upper body is pretty good actually. So people, before you throw around words like 'anorexic', 'cancer' etc.. just remember that's someones identity you're picking at. If he's happy being thin then so be it, millions of male & females are & being thin doesn't mean unhealthy. Remember, only judge a person once you've walked a mile in their shoes!
Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. To me, Andrea has gone beyond the realm of healthy slimness. But I won't speculate if he has an illness or any other problem. It's nothing to do with American vs European ideal. He just doesn't look healthy.
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Old 01-01-2008, 02:37 PM
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Also keep in mind people don't always look in person as they look in pictures...I think the Casiraghi boys are both quite thin but also quite fit and hopefully healthy. Most rich French guys look like that anyway.

I hope so, too. But, also keep in mind that people look heavier in pictures than they do in person. Remember the old saying, "The camera adds 10 pounds?"
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Old 01-01-2008, 02:43 PM
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I hope so, too. But, also keep in mind that people look heavier in pictures than they do in person. Remember the old saying, "The camera adds 10 pounds?"
I've been told they look way less thin in person...I was surprised cause, as you said, I know the camera adds pounds, but in this case I've ben told both Andrea and Pierre look taller and better built (shoulders and all) in person.

BTW, I think there is a fine line between saying someone is too thin, which I find totally acceptable, and saying he/she is unhealthy, or ill, which in my opinion should be avoided, especially when we don't know these people personally!
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Old 01-01-2008, 02:48 PM
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I agree with comments in the difference between what American men look like, physically, and European men - in America we range from overweight to thin. I don't think there is one "look" that men have here, there is a range - sometimes depending upon where you live in the country (states known for a more outdoor lifestyle tend to have more fit people; middle of the country tends to be fatter). In Europe there seems to be trendy looks that a lot of men seem to adopt, universally - right now, that look (to us Americans) is quite thin for men. I think Andrea is a trendy guy, and right now, he's trending toward a more thin frame - we've all seen him looking more fit and healthier, but I think he's just keeping up w/a certain trend going on there in Europe at the moment. As long as he's clean shaven, I like his look!
I'm all for clean cut/clean shaven, too! That's way more important for me than thin/fit/fat. Andrea has such a handsome face, it's a shame when he hides it with hair!

(And yes, the styles definitely are definitely different between American and European men. I remember sitting in a London hotel a few years ago looking at a bunch of business men walking through the lobby and being amazed at how different the cut of the men's suits was. American men have a looser, boxier cut, while the British men were wearing a more tapered jacket and slacks that were more "form fitting" around the butt.)

Andrea seems to go for the flowing, dramatic oversized clothes a lot. For instance, I remember seeing pictures of him and Pierre on vacation in loose white outfits this summer that looked like a cross between karate suits and pajamas. He seems to like wearing flowing scarves and long, layered jackets a lot, too.

This isn't a look too many American guys his age would go for, unless they were into the arts.
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"Well, actually lucianap, in many of the pictures, he IS in America, living in New York!"

So what! He's European. Just b/c he's in N.Y doesn't mean he turns American! I'm pretty sure that 99% of the people he associates with in N.Y are European.

"Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion"

I agree but saying someone is "anorexic" is basically saying someone is suffering from a serious mental illness - thats what anorexia is ... & saying someone looks like they have "cancer" is disgusting & an insult to all the people in the world who tragically ARE actually battling with cancer.

I grew up in Europe & N.Y.C & the difference between Euro guys & American guys is huge - fashion, attitude, lifestyle - all very different - of course the U.S is a huge country & you can't stereotype but for the most part they're very different. European guys are way ahead when it comes to fashion but I think thats just representative of Europe in general - we don't have such rigid fashion codes here - we love individuality, anything goes.
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Old 01-01-2008, 09:01 PM
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HAHAHAHA - yes, can you imagine "cowboys" from Texas going for tailored suits and manicures/metrosexual look?! In NYC, it's so great because you can have the cowboy, the true NY-er, and the international set on the street together, and no one cares! That's why living there may be a safe haven for Andrea because he can be whatever weight he's comfortable with, dress however he likes (floppy hat, unshaven, etc), and no one cares! He's just another NY-er on the street ... at least to those that don't know who he is.... media that follow the sociliates have already found him, but for the most part, I'll bet he's left alone when he's just out grabbing a coffee.
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BTW, I think there is a fine line between saying someone is too thin, which I find totally acceptable, and saying he/she is unhealthy, or ill, which in my opinion should be avoided, especially when we don't know these people personally!
Agree! I feel that Andrea looks very thin but not diseased in anyway. Most of the time his face looks washed out, but I think that is owing to the camera. Without makeup, many people looked washed out in pictures. I bet in person his coloring is loads better than what it appears in the pictures we are seeing.
Also, consider the difference of the magazine picture and the press agency picture. The magazine picture will have finishing touches added to make it look high quality. The agency picture with the watermark/pre-sale is "as is". It's no coincidence, therefore, that the magazine pictures of Andrea always look better than the source pictures.
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Time to close this thread and to start a new one. You can find it right here: Andrea Casiraghi Current Events Part 13
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