William and Kate: engagement and relationship rumours and musings 2005 - 2008

[Princess_K]

I'd like to know who will make the announcement, Buckingham Palace or maybe just Clarence House since Will isn't yet first in line? And what will Kate wear to the press conference and how will she have a chance to shop for it without everyone guessing? And how much notice of an impending announcement will we get?

Oh, the drama. It's better than Celebrity Big Brother

 

[BeatrixFan]

Clarence House will announce any engagement and then Buckingham Palace will announce how pleased the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh are. Any announcement will come pretty much out of the blue.

 

[zhontella]

Pr Charles was bounced into marrying Diana - and look what a disaster that was.

That "disaster" produced 2 fine sons and gave the British monarchy some much needed PR sparkle. Plus Diana set a standard for charitable empathy and concern for the British public. It wasn't all a disaster.
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[Sister Morphine]

That "disaster" produced 2 fine sons and gave the British monarchy some much needed PR sparkle. Plus Diana set a standard for charitable empathy and concern for the British public. It wasn't all a disaster.
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No, it wasn't all a disaster, but I think what the poster was talking about was the fact that marriage was not happy and that it ended in divorce. From a purely marital standpoint, it was a disaster and I'm sure it's something that William and Harry want to avoid in their own marriages, but especially William's.

 

[zhontella]

From a purely marital standpoint, it was a disaster and I'm sure it's something that William and Harry want to avoid in their own marriages, but especially William's.

I'm sure if William and Harry approach their marriages with a modicum of integrity and honesty, the chances are everything will be OK.

 

[Elspeth]

While integrity and honesty on both sides are very helpful in a marriage, they don't compensate for a marriage between essentially incompatible people. Neither William not Harry should be rushed into marriage because the press has decided to exploit the situation for financial gain.

 

[Sister Morphine]

I'm sure if William and Harry approach their marriages with a modicum of integrity and honesty, the chances are everything will be OK.

I agree with that as well. But like Elspeth said, if William and his bride [whoever she ends up to be] just don't work together, and we all know a couple that loves each other but can't be together, it would be a disaster. Then again, they may choose to fight it out and keep up appearances, but William doesn't strike me as the sort who would do that.

 

[zhontella]

While integrity and honesty on both sides are very helpful in a marriage, they don't compensate for a marriage between essentially incompatible people.

Once 2 people like each other well enough to get married, then they'd better put their "essentially incompatible" nonsense aside, and make up their minds to get along, especially when children are involved. It's all a process of learning and growth in tolerance and acceptance. The hardship overcome then leads to spiritual evolving. Throwing in the towel and taking the easy way out can and often does lead to generations of dysfunctional families.
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[Izzysamos]

I just wanted to thank all of the members who have been posting articles or pictures or news regarding William and/or Kate on these boards, no matter what the news is in regard to. I know I would never seen any of this stuff if it weren't for you! I'm having a good time enjoying the anticipation of a potential royal wedding sometime in the future, whether it be Kate or not. Just wanted to say hello and thanks!

 

[branchg]

Precisely why William should marry who he wants, when he wants. I am more than 100% certain he doesn't want his marriage going down the same road that his parents' marriage did.

William knows his duty and I think he will make the right decision when the time comes. There is no rush for him to get married right now and he understands the importance of making a careful choice.

The press is just speculating.

 

[Toledo]

I think, from what I've read here and other articles, Kate has a great potential to become a great consort for William. She seems to be calm, she is aware of her position and how it affects him, and she seems to deal with the pesky paparazzis without making much of a fuzz or showing temper. So far so good for passing the test of fire, the army of paparazzis.
And most of all, there seems to be a genuine love and caring relationship between those two, Williams and Kate. Maybe is the age, maybe their upbringing, who knows, but they form a good team.

 

[Skydragon]

I just wanted to thank all of the members who have been posting articles or pictures or news regarding William and/or Kate on these boards, no matter what the news is in regard to. I know I would never seen any of this stuff if it weren't for you! I'm having a good time enjoying the anticipation of a potential royal wedding sometime in the future, whether it be Kate or not. Just wanted to say hello and thanks!

Hello Izzysamos, Welcome to the forums!

 

[iowabelle]

I agree with WindsorIII. I wish people would leave this pair alone, to do whatever they need to do. Pushing royals into marriage hasn't worked particularly well with the young Windsors.

 

[Lily97]

I don't think William feels like he is being pushed into getting engaged or they would have already done it. I do think you have to be great friends first to make a marriage work and I think they have already proved that they are friends. Charles and Diana did not have time to even see if they were compatible before they married. I believe that is why he and Camilla seem to make such a good team. I think William will take his time and will know what he is doing when he gets engaged and to whom.

Lily

 

[Lady Bluffton]

Somehow Kate reminds me of Mary Donaldson...calm and discreet. Winning combination for royal brides.

 

[MARG]

Somehow Kate reminds me of Mary Donaldson...calm and discreet.

She lacks Mary's radiant smile somehow.

 

[Warren]

She lacks Mary's radiant smile somehow.

Marg, radiance will be bestowed if and when she becomes a Princess.

 

[MARG]

Marg, radiance will be bestowed if and when she becomes a Princess.

Aha! Cynicism or optimism ..... ene meeny miny mo!

 

[love36]

It must be hard dating a prince.
All the new reports would make my head hurt.

He will ask when he is ready. Writing about it must
be hard on her.

 

[Lily97]

Well she had better get used to it if they do marry.

Lily

 

[Roslyn]

This is the cover story in Australia's New Idea this week:

http://au.blogs.yahoo.com/new-idea/1748/wills-and-kates-2007-royal-wedding/

The article gives "all the details", including that Kate is already secretly seeing style expert Leesa Whisker to advise her on the clothes, hair and make-up for her new role, and that she has visited dentist Dr Didier Fillion in London, who specialises in giving his elite clients the 'perfect smile' using invisible braces.

The details of the actual wedding arrangements are - perhaps not surprisingly - somewhat thin on the ground, though it is said that "The royal courtiers are scuttling about in preparation for the biggest wedding ever." There is speculation about the style of dress, venue (St Paul's or Westminster Abbey), and honeymoon location. I haven't seen anything about Crown Jewels, though maybe I need to read it again. Perhaps my tiny brain was overwhelmed by all those "details".

It also says that 'While Charles and Di married more for duty, Kate and Wills will tie the knot with love".

As for the actual date, there's more "detail" in the extract on the internet site than in the article. The web page says this English summer, but that's not stated in the magazine, which merely says that the couple is tipped to marry within six months of the official engagement announcement.

Remember, our New Idea gave it to you first.

 

[bekalc]

While integrity and honesty on both sides are very helpful in a marriage, they don't compensate for a marriage between essentially incompatible people. Neither William not Harry should be rushed into marriage because the press has decided to exploit the situation for financial gain.

William has been dating Kate Middleton for 5 years. Yes, they are young but 5 years is 5 years. If William isn't sure by now, than he's never going to be sure...I think they should either get married or move on.

 

[Jo of Palatine]

William has been dating Kate Middleton for 5 years. Yes, they are young but 5 years is 5 years. If William isn't sure by now, than he's never going to be sure...I think they should either get married or move on.

William is still in his army training and Catherine just started with her first job. IMHO this is more important for them at the moment than getting married - 5 years or not.

 

[bekalc]

William is still in his army training and Catherine just started with her first job. IMHO this is more important for them at the moment than getting married - 5 years or not.

Why are these jobs more important than a marriage... That's what's wrong with society today, marriage takes back space to everything else...

William isn't going to be in the army forever, and if anything starting out their marriage while William is in the army will probably afford them more privacy than after William's army days...As for Kate's job, Kate may not even be able to keep her job if she becomes the future Queen....

I'm not saying that careers aren't important but people change careers all the time, technically marriage is till death do you part. If William and Kate aren't sure about if they want to be married, when are they going to be sure? Especially in Kate's case, these are Kate's "best dating years."

 

[Sister Morphine]

Why are these jobs more important than a marriage... That's what's wrong with society today, marriage takes back space to everything else...

I'm not sure I understand this statement. I don't think marriage takes the back burner to everything else. For some people, like myself, marriage is not the most important thing in the world. I'll be 25 in June, in fact I'm 2 weeks older than William. I am in no way ready to be married, even though my parents were younger than I am when they got married.


To William and Kate, they are young, they have their things going on and they are in no rush to get married. They shouldn't be looked down upon for that. This isn't 1957....it's not important that a woman get married as soon as she possibly can lest she end up an old maid.

 

[Christo's Girl]

If everyone wants this to work out, then these two must be left alone to a certain degree. I personally find Chelsy and Harry alot more entertaining.

 

[bekalc]

I'm not sure I understand this statement. I don't think marriage takes the back burner to everything else. For some people, like myself, marriage is not the most important thing in the world. I'll be 25 in June, in fact I'm 2 weeks older than William. I am in no way ready to be married, even though my parents were younger than I am when they got married.


To William and Kate, they are young, they have their things going on and they are in no rush to get married. They shouldn't be looked down upon for that. This isn't 1957....it's not important that a woman get married as soon as she possibly can lest she end up an old maid.

I don't think you understand what I mean about this. For the record I'm a 26 female, and I'm not out freaking out becuase i don't have a husband.....I don't think a female should marry the first guy who comes along. However, I also don't think its a very good idea to saddle yourself in a long term relationship that may not be going any where either. If you do want to eventually marry.

Kate and William have been dating for five years. Yes, some of it was during college, so it makes sense that it would be at that long. However, at the point they are in now, considering both have been out of college for a while too, they should have a pretty good understanding if they want to be together for the long haul or not. If they aren't sure by now, than they probably aren't going to ever be sure...

If they are going to break it off, it would be far better off for them to break it off now, than for them to break it off a year or two years from now.. There comes a point in every relationship where a couple has to decide where the relationship is going...I would think at their ages, and given that they have been dating for 5 years now would be the right time to make that decision. The longer they put off this decision the harder its going to be to end the relationship too.

And since when is a five year courtship, "rushing a marriage."

 

[Sister Morphine]

Maybe they want to date for 10 years before they get married? It's their choice. We don't know if they've been discussing getting married in the near future or not. Just because they've been together for 5 years doesn't mean they have to immediately choose getting married or breaking up.

They very well could have had a talk about getting married and maybe between the both of them, they've decided to wait until X time before getting engaged/married.

 

[Zonk]

Dating for 5 years when you are 25 is a lot different than dating for 5 years when you are say 28 or 35. When you are a little older and female (and this is not applicable for all women) you might feel that you are at that point where we need to get married (if you are trying to have kids) or just move on. It all depends on the individual.

 

[ysbel]

William has been dating Kate Middleton for 5 years. Yes, they are young but 5 years is 5 years. If William isn't sure by now, than he's never going to be sure...I think they should either get married or move on.

I think William is sure but I also think he wants to make sure the timing is right. His uncle's marriage was ruined by being on military duties for the majority of the first two years of marriage and it was pointed out as a major factor in the marriage breakup.

I'm sure William doesn't want to repeat his uncle's mistakes.