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Welcome to the thread Support for the Monarchy in the UK, Part 2

Commencing September 1st, 2022

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The poll results appear to indicate that people have noticed how the monarchy has modernised itself in the last two decades but there's still a significant desire to see more modernisation so the BRF mustn't stagnate (I don't think it will).
 
What happened around 2010-12 since the figures peaked those years?
 
Thanks. :flowers:

No wonder then.
 



Results from You Gov UK's most recent poll taken in early April 2024. It also surveys the nation's views on the monarchy as well as individual members of the British Royal family: KCIII, Queen Camilla, The Wales, The Sussexes along with the King's siblings.
 
No real surprises regarding the Top 3
Princess of Wales
Prince of Wales
Princess Royal

No real surprises to the bottom 3
Duke of Sussex
Duchess of Sussex
Duke of York
 
New polling for the BRF from You Gov - Sample Size: 2053 GB, AdultsFieldwork: 1st - 2nd May 2024


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Consistent ranking with no surprises but the BRF should be encouraged with the strong numbers for all the working royals and the royal family in general in spite of the start to the year they've had.
 
I don't take much stock in polls, but i do wonder about the 13% who hold a negative view of Catherine, The Princess of Wales. I can't see any negativity in her at all; a loving wife and mother, highly supportive to the Monarchy, also with her own causes, mostly children; perhaps she's too traditional for some people, i don't know.
 
New polling for the BRF from You Gov - Sample Size: 2053 GB, AdultsFieldwork: 1st - 2nd May 2024


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Consistent ranking with no surprises but the BRF should be encouraged with the strong numbers for all the working royals and the royal family in general in spite of the start to the year they've had.
I'm glad to see that Sophie is now being included in the polling. These are numbers that most politicians would sell their souls for!!
 
I don't take much stock in polls, but i do wonder about the 13% who hold a negative view of Catherine, The Princess of Wales. I can't see any negativity in her at all; a loving wife and mother, highly supportive to the Monarchy, also with her own causes, mostly children; perhaps she's too traditional for some people, i don't know.
Some people just don't like monarchy, it doesn't matter which member of the institution we are talking about. I would say that in most cases it's not personal.
 
From that same survey, attitudes between generations towards members of the royal family do vary quite a lot.

Generations differ on their attitudes to the royals and the monarchy​

When it comes to what the public thinks of the monarchy itself, around half of Britons (56%) hold a positive view of the monarchy, compared to 33% who view it negatively.

But views on the monarchy vary across different age groups, with only a third of the youngest Britons (34% of 18-24 year olds) having a favourable opinion. By contrast, among the oldest Britons (those aged 65 and above) fully 76% have a positive view of the monarchy.

Attitudes towards specific royals also differ, with younger generations having less markedly different views on Harry and William than their elders. Among 18-24 year olds, 48% view William positively, while 42% view Harry in the same light. Among those over 65, William enjoys a favourable view from 85%, while only 16% see Harry similarly.

Similarly, Meghan fares better among 18-24 year olds (36%) than among those over 65, of whom just 11% view her positively.
 
Very happy to see to Sophie making the poll,no surprises at the bottom 3!
 
I see Lady Louise is not there. DM has certainly done their bit to promote her. - And to me she seems pretty uncontroversial.
 
I see Lady Louise is not there. DM has certainly done their bit to promote her. - And to me she seems pretty uncontroversial.
Lady Louise wouldn't be that well known outside us royal watchers,she's also not a working royal and as such was not in the poll .
Its strange that the York sisters were included.
 
Support for the monarchy in Great Britain 2011-2024:

 
Lady Louise wouldn't be that well known outside us royal watchers,she's also not a working royal and as such was not in the poll .
Its strange that the York sisters were included.
She is still in full-time education which is a major reason why she wouldn't be included. She is only just starting her third year at university and has another year after this one.
 
YouGov rolling poll of the BRF Q4 2024 (October, November, December)


Top 3:
  1. Catherine, Princess of Wales - 79%
  2. Queen Elizabeth II - 77%
  3. William, Prince of Wales - 74%
Bottom 3
  1. Meghan. Duchess of Sussex
  2. Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester
  3. Lady Margarita Armstrong-Jones
They've suddenly added a chunk of non-working and/or retired royals e.g. Duchess of Kent, Lady Louise and Lady Margarita. I'm not sure I see the point of checking the public's view of the non-working members of the family as they are largely private citizens but it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things.

Good to see William and Catherine closing out a tough year sustaining their lead at the top of the polls and more popular than they were at the beginning of the year. There was a lot of talk earlier in the year about KP's PR strategy and the handling of the social media storm around the princess however their steady and measured approach to their lives and work, refusing to react or be manipulated by short-term noise, no matter how loud, continue to pay off for them. They understand who their constituents are and the polls continue to validate them.
 
I agree that retired and non working royals should not be placed in these polls. Is it because if only full time working royals are shown the sparse numbers would stand out?

Also, Why is the late Queen Elizabeth II , who has been dead for well over a year, still featuring in these polls?

And the new sovereign and Queen Consort’s approval ratings aren’t exactly stellar, though they never really ever have been .
 
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I am sorry about the Duke of Gloucester coming so low on the poll as he and his wife do a great deal of work under the radar, without fanfare.
I AM ALWAYS CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT HE WAS THE ' SPARE'.
 
YouGov rolling poll of the BRF Q4 2024 (October, November, December)


Top 3:
  1. Catherine, Princess of Wales - 79%
  2. Queen Elizabeth II - 77%
  3. William, Prince of Wales - 74%
Bottom 3
  1. Meghan. Duchess of Sussex
  2. Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester
  3. Lady Margarita Armstrong-Jones
They've suddenly added a chunk of non-working and/or retired royals e.g. Duchess of Kent, Lady Louise and Lady Margarita. I'm not sure I see the point of checking the public's view of the non-working members of the family as they are largely private citizens but it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things.

Good to see William and Catherine closing out a tough year sustaining their lead at the top of the polls and more popular than they were at the beginning of the year. There was a lot of talk earlier in the year about KP's PR strategy and the handling of the social media storm around the princess however their steady and measured approach to their lives and work, refusing to react or be manipulated by short-term noise, no matter how loud, continue to pay off for them. They understand who their constituents are and the polls continue to validate them.
Why on earth would Lady Margarita be included in this poll? 🤔 There are several people on this poll who are not senior royals who perform engagements.
 
Seeing a dignified, hardworking and discreet man like Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester, placed second to last, is nothing short of an insult.
The UK doesn't deserve him, and I'm really making an effort here not to say something far meaner.
 
Seeing a dignified, hardworking and discreet man like Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester, placed second to last, is nothing short of an insult.
The UK doesn't deserve him, and I'm really making an effort here not to say something far meaner.
It is hard to be popular if many people don't know who you are:

fame is defined by the % of people who have heard of a royalty.
popularity is the % of people who have a positive opinion of a royalty.

So, it seems we should interpret all the results in light of the % of people who have heard of them:
Some examples of well-known royals:
Catherine: 99% heard - 79% positive (79 pos / 20 neg or neutral)
Elizabeth: 98% heard - 77% positive (77 pos / 21 neg or neutral)
Anne: 97% heard - 61% positive (61 pos / 36 neg or neutral)
Charles: 97% heard - 52% positive (52 pos / 45 neg or neutral) --> few will be neutral
Andrew: 96% heard - 22% positive (22 pos / 74 neg or neutral) --> most likely most are negative

Some examples of lesser known royals; in most cases the 'non positives' are probably neutral:
Louise: 68% heard - 31% positive (31 pos / 37 neg or neutral)
Alexandra: 58% heard - 25% positive (25 pos / 33 neg or neutral)
Birgitte: 44% heard - 21% positive (21 pos / 23 neg or neutral)
Richard: 46% heard - 17% positive (17 pos / 29 neg or neutral)

And if even the most popular member of the family has 20 percent point negative or neutral anything in the 20s is nothing to be ashamed of.
 
It's a shame that more people don't know about HRH The Duke of Gloucester. Having to give up a passionate career in architecture and a relatively private life to become a working member of the BRF because of the sudden death of your brother, and doing so diligently without the fanfare of more visible members, deserves a lot more than second from the bottom.

Then again, maybe it's just the top 21 adults in the entire BRF? If not, then it makes Lady Margarita Armstrong-Jones's inclusion even more strange. Everyone else on the list are either current or former working BRF members and/or HLM The Queen, her direct descendants, and their spouses. Why would she be on the list when Peter Phillips or Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh aren't? Heck, neither her father the Earl of Snowden nor her brother Viscount Linley are on the list.

It seems weird that she's listed as the least popular royal given that her inclusion here seems arbitrary to me (unless, of course, this is just the top 21 of every adult in the BRF).
 
I'm sorry to see the hard-working Duke of Gloucester ranked so low, but what a stupid poll. Lady Margarita isn't a working royal, and rarely features even in the gossip columns. Why is the late Queen included? Are they also going to ask for people's opinions on Elizabeth I or Henry VIII? And how can only 97% of people have heard of the King? Which planet are the other 3% on?!
 
I'm sorry to see the hard-working Duke of Gloucester ranked so low, but what a stupid poll. Lady Margarita isn't a working royal, and rarely features even in the gossip columns. Why is the late Queen included? Are they also going to ask for people's opinions on Elizabeth I or Henry VIII? And how can only 97% of people have heard of the King? Which planet are the other 3% on?!
I do not understand why they included Lady Margarita, but not her father or her brother, or Lady Sarah Chatto. And why did they include the Duchess of Kent, but not the Duke of Kent? Or Princess Alexandra, but not Prince and Princess Michael? Echoing Somebody, I also think the more traditional "favorable", "unfavorable", or "don't know" categories would have been more informative.

Overall that is a very strange poll.
 
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