muriel
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Query if we will have an incoming state visit from Japan this year in the autumn or in spring 2024?
So far there has been no announcement from either court.
Normally incoming British State Visits are announced at the State Opening of Parliament which is set for 7th November.
With the postponed French State Visit also to be rescheduled I suspect that Japan may be on the back burner, especially if the rumour that Charles wants to make a large Commonwealth tour next year is true.
Preparations between the British and Japanese governments are proceeding with consideration for the king's health. Buckingham Palace said in February that Charles has been diagnosed with cancer and advised to postpone public-facing duties while he undergoes treatment.
According to sources familiar with the matter, the Imperial couple will leave Japan on June 22 for London. In addition to attending the welcoming ceremony and banquet at Buckingham Palace, the Emperor and Empress will attend a luncheon with U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and his wife, a dinner hosted by London Mayor Sadiq Khan, and other occasions.
On the sideline of official events, the two governments are arraigning that the Imperial couple will attend a gathering of people who have contributed to the friendly relations between the two countries and will inspect a facility regarding transportation on the Thames River, a theme that the Emperor researched while he was studying in the United Kingdom for two years from 1983.
On the final day of the visit, the Imperial couple will visit the University of Oxford. One idea that has surfaced is that the two will tour sites connected to their memories as they visit the university’s Merton College, were the Emperor studied, and Balliol College, where the Empress studied, before heading to the airport to leave for Japan. The two are scheduled to return to Japan on June 29.
Hoping to become truth!Japanese media report planning is underway for the UK state visit in late June. Possibly June 22-29
Japan imperial couple state visit to Britain planned for June - Kyodo News
Emperor, Empress to Make State Visit to U.K. on Invitation of King Charles; Their Second Overseas Goodwill Trip - The Japan News
NTV also mentions visiting Queen Elizabeth II's tomb.
It's a reschedule, but how does this work protocol-wise since Charles is the newer monarch and hasn't been to Japan while reigning?
I wonder if the British king's cancer treatment is taking priority over protocol.
I think that the Emperor makes a State visit to the UK as opposed to the King paying a State visit to Japan is because the original Invitation was from the late Queen, and the State visit was not cancelled but rather postponed.Then it seems slightly odd to be prioritizing his treatment by adding the stress of a state visit in-between rounds of whatever is medically necessary for his health, since we know it's not complete.
If you mean the king having cancer has changed the protocol, at least for the moment, it might be a possibility.
Does the UK even observe that protocol? Just from eyeballing the list, it looks like Elizabeth II received the longer-reigning monarchs of Sweden, Ethiopia, Iraq, Iran, Belgium, Greece, Thailand, Nepal, Japan, and Afghanistan before she'd visited those monarchs (and in the case of Greece, Iraq, and Afghanistan never did).
I think you are correct, this is not a protocol the UK tends to follow.Does the UK even observe that protocol? Just from eyeballing the list, it looks like Elizabeth II received the longer-reigning monarchs of Sweden, Ethiopia, Iraq, Iran, Belgium, Greece, Thailand, Nepal, Japan, and Afghanistan before she'd visited those monarchs (and in the case of Greece, Iraq, and Afghanistan never did).
While it's true that UK normally not gives order to visiting consorts, Japan seems not affected and having a reciprocal arrangement on giving out theirs order. Nagako didn't receive any order from the British back in 1975, only Hirohito received (precisely "re-received") the Garter, but they're still quite generous: Philip and Charles received the highest order, while Anne and Margaret also got the lower one.We don't quite know if Queen Camilla will receive a Japanese order, as the UK tends not to give out orders to consorts, and by reciprocal arrangement, UK consorts ought to not receive any.
There's now going to be a general election in July. I wonder if that means another postponement, as happened to the Spanish visit in 2017.
Wonder if the will again postpone it, after it has already been postponed in 2020, Perhaps the could simply plan it for July so after the elections.There's now going to be a general election in July. I wonder if that means another postponement, as happened to the Spanish visit in 2017.
I think the 2017 precedent is the right one, and the state visit will probably be rescheduled.There's now going to be a general election in July. I wonder if that means another postponement, as happened to the Spanish visit in 2017.
Alas a shame, but I was expecting it to be postponed pending another rescheduled date!I think the 2017 precedent is the right one, and the state visit will probably be rescheduled.
But then would it be diplomatic correct to postpone again on so short notice?I know this is the DM but I thought it was relevant and highly likely to be correct at this time:All the royal engagements that may be missed
Buckingham Palace confirmed that the King has cancelled his public engagements for the rest of the week.www.dailymail.co.uk
Next month's high-profile Japanese State Visit - which has major trade and diplomatic implications - has yet to be confirmed, however. A decision will be made by the Foreign Office in due course.
One reason why this may be delayed again is because it has 'major trade and diplomatic implications'. Hard for the Tory government to make trade deals etc as a result of this visit if they then lose the election a week or so later and Labour doesn't agree with those deals.
Yes, IMO, its fine. All governments understand that its slightly pointless to host a state visit a week before an election.But then would it be diplomatic correct to postpone again on so short notice?
Yes. Better to postpone and actually be able to do some work by those accompanying the Emperor than have the visit simply as a show but no actual work able to be done. Remember that within a week or so it is highly probable that a new government will be in office with a different philosophy on many issues so no point in making deals that will only have to be done again in 10 days or so time anyway.But then would it be diplomatic correct to postpone again on so short notice?