Prince Andrew, Duke of York Current Events 7: Feb 2015 - Sep 2022


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ladongas said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...longside-Queen-Garter-Day-Windsor-Castle.html

Andrew is to be at Garter Day.
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This is most unfortunate, apparently "his name will also appear in the next day's Court Circular, and he will attend Garter Day ceremonies as a Royal Knight." So this means Andrew will be wearing the grand velvet robe and plumed hat right along with the Prince of Wales and Duke of Cambridge. I can't imagine this will go over very well with them. The Queen does seem intent on rehabilitating Andrew's standing back into the royal family.
 
The Queen loves her son and wants to ensure that he is seen as rehabilitated and is seen as part of the royal family - which he is and always will be.

She has shown time and again this year that she is completely tone deaf to the wishes of her people - first with Tony Blair's garter and then with her treatment of family members who should be publicly shunned, even if attending events privately.

Charles will be the same when he is King and allow some members to walk all over him. Neither of them have any backbone.
 
Iluvbertie said:
She has shown time and again this year that she is completely tone deaf to the wishes of her people - first with Tony Blair's garter and then with her treatment of family members who should be publicly shunned, even if attending events privately.

Charles will be the same when he is King and allow some members to walk all over him. Neither of them have any backbone.
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As a general point, I think they both have plenty of backbone, and it is in use when required. The "sacking" of Andrew was clear evidence, IMO.

That said, I see abosultely no case for why Andrew should be allowed to appear at the Garter ceremony, and I do not support such a move. I think this will be a wrong decision on the part of the Queen. Whilst it was correct for Andrew to be present, I also think it was wrong for Andrew to have escorted the Queen into the Abbey for the rservice of rememberance for Prince Philip.

I do think it was the right decision to give Tony Blair the Garter. He was PM for 10 years, having one three elections. Most recent PMs till Blair have had the Garter, and to not grant it to the longest serving Labour PM could be seen as partisan.
 
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Is it confrimed from the Palace that Andrew is going to appear at the Garter ceremony
 
There is no confirmation - just report in the press and photos of Andrew appearing happy. We really don't know.
I must be remembered that Camilla and Tony Blair will be in attendance. I would think the pics will be of them. And considering that more the 80% of the ceremony takes place without cameras - does it make a difference?
The honour was not removed - so why can he not attend? And then take his food upstairs?
 
Denville said:
Is it confrimed from the Palace that Andrew is going to appear at the Garter ceremony
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I do not think that there has been any official statement, just speculation in the press.
 
Denville said:
Is it confrimed from the Palace that Andrew is going to appear at the Garter ceremony
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All Knights and Ladies of the Garter are invited to attend the Service and Chapter of the Order. As long as the knighthood has not been rescinded, there is no reason to exclude Prince Andrew.
 
it does not mean that he has to come. I think it would be better if he didn't appear.
 
Denville said:
it does not mean that he has to come. I think it would be better if he didn't appear.
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I completely agree, he would be best advised to not attend.
 
I just don't believe this story can be true. Andrew has gone from public life, he can't possibly parade down to St. George's chapel in flowing ceremonial robes. If the Queen thought the reaction to him at the Abbey was bad just wait for the reaction to this (if it actually happens). The media will have a field day bearing in mind that the Garter is an Order of chivalry and yet he just recently paid millions to make a woman accusing him of statutory rape disappear. No, I can't see this happening at all.
 
why not wait to see if it actaully happens? Andrew has hardly been seen in public in 2 years... so while I think the queen wishes he could be seen iwth her more often she accepts that he cant.
 
I was thinking about this - the Queen is a Christian woman who respects the institutions that she represents. By allowing her son to participate and yes - she is allowing him - that should be saying something.
 
Claire said:
I was thinking about this - the Queen is a Christian woman who respects the institutions that she represents. By allowing her son to participate and yes - she is allowing him - that should be saying something.
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We dont know if she will allow Andrew to be in the Garter ceremony. and what would she be saying? Saying yes, he has behaved awfully but he's still my son is one thing. But to let him participate in such a ceremony is not really appropriate IMO. After all he did not even appear in his daughters wedding photos, nor was he seen at the ceremony....
He appeared at his fathers memorial service but that was a gesture of respect ot his father and saying "yes, he is sitll his fahter's son:"
I dont think the queen thinks she can rehabiliate him, but that he can occasionally appear at events..
 
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The royals are not exactly getting a warm welcome wherever they are turning up these days and I'm sure every republican out there would be delighted to see Andrew swanning around in Garter robes making them even more unpopular. It shouldn't even be up to the Queen, Charles etc to make the decision, for the good of the Monarchy he should decide himself not to go but then when did Andrew ever think of anyone or anything but himself?
 
I'm not sure why that needs to be in the news. He lives on the Windsor estate, and it's not as if he's got much else to do. The Queen may be the monarch, but she's also an elderly widow who now isn't able to get out much, so I'm sure she's delighted to see Andrew every day.
 
Alison H said:
I'm not sure why that needs to be in the news. He lives on the Windsor estate, and it's not as if he's got much else to do. The Queen may be the monarch, but she's also an elderly widow who now isn't able to get out much, so I'm sure she's delighted to see Andrew every day.
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There's nothing wrong with that at all. It's not even news worthy.
 
How wonderful that one of the queen's children is able to visit her every day - especially since it clearly has been a hard year on her since the death of her husband.
 
victor1319 said:
German tabloid "Bunte online" has a story today (from the Sun or something?), that according to a source in the Palace the very Prince Andrew visits his Mommy everyday...
https://www.bunte.de/royals/britisc...ter-taeglich-vor-dem-mittagessen-besucht.html

What to make out of this? I have no idea! And I am biased, anyway...
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My Dad used to visit his old mum, my dear granny, every day, too! I`m sure HM appreciates seeing one of her children every day instead of just her ladies and servants!
 
To be fair, even convicted murderers still get family visitation when they're in jail and technically neither is Andrew convicted for anything nor in jail so why can't he meet his mother privately?

ladongas said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...longside-Queen-Garter-Day-Windsor-Castle.html

Andrew is to be at Garter Day.
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Didn't Telegraph report that he'd accompany TQ to the Derby? And Sunday Times also wrote something about the great I grandchildren participating in Horse Show?
Well, since this one is reported by Daily Mail, it must be true then ..:ermm:

(Seriously, it seems like the "palace sources" are messing up with royal rota)
 
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I am bemused by the self-righteous howling for Prince Andrew to be all but shunned, kicked out of his home, not allowed to see his mother and never to ride in Windsor Park again. Did I miss something? TPTB had him settle the civil case against him to cut down the adverse publicity against the BRF. He did and I think the advice was wrong. Not only has the media not backed off but if this thread on the forum is indicative of their feeling about him it seems that the old theory of "silence betokens consent" or that "settling betokens guilt" holds true. I call BS.
 
victor1319 said:
German tabloid "Bunte online" has a story today (from the Sun or something?), that according to a source in the Palace the very Prince Andrew visits his Mommy everyday...
https://www.bunte.de/royals/britisc...ter-taeglich-vor-dem-mittagessen-besucht.html

What to make out of this? I have no idea! And I am biased, anyway...
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what ot make of it?? Really? its quite obvious. Andrew and his mothers see each other because they want to -. He can at least amuse and keep his mother company even if he can't do anything else. Why would anyone feel that there was soemting hard to understand about this? Andrew has his faults but he has tried to be there for his mother in the past year.

sophie25 said:
The royals are not exactly getting a warm welcome wherever they are turning up these days and I'm sure every republican out there would be delighted to see Andrew swanning around in Garter robes making them even more unpopular. It shouldn't even be up to the Queen, Charles etc to make the decision, for the good of the Monarchy he should decide himself not to go but then when did Andrew ever think of anyone or anything but himself?
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since there is no official confirmation that Andrew is going to attend, shouldn't we wait until he is definitely going, to attack him or the RF?
 
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More legal trouble for Prince Andrew. The sale of his Swiss chalet has allegedly been put on hold, because an un-named third party has claimed a 1.6 million pound debt against him.


Daily Mail article here


The freezing order will ensure the couple receives the money owed to them out of the sale.


What a messy business.
 
ladongas said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...longside-Queen-Garter-Day-Windsor-Castle.html

Andrew is to be at Garter Day.
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According to an "exclusive" from Matt Wilkinson of the Sun, Queen Elizabeth had given permission for the Duke of York to participate in the Garter Day ceremonies, but at the last moment was persuaded by the Prince of Wales and Duke of Cambridge to remove him from the public procession, although he will still attend the private events.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18864575/prince-andrew-charles-william-block-return/

Time will show which report(s), if any, have the correct information.
 
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