Engagement & Civil Marriage of Nicholas Medforth-Mills and Alina Maria Binder - 2017


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Duc_et_Pair said:
Heu, I see two engagement videos: one shows Nicholas sporting a beard, the other shows him clean-shaven?
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The photograph of the couple with a bearded Nicholas is not from their engagement but from the baptism of Prince Joseph d'Orléans last year.
 
The editor or the Royal Musings Blog, who has direct access to Mr Medforth Mills, has posted about the engagement. It has become clear that former King Michael wished his grandson the best but the situation of Nicholas (stripped from his title, his position in the Royal House and his place in King Michael's version of the succession) remains unchanged. So there seems to be contact with grandfather and the aunts so to see, apparently Nicholas is not an outcast or something. Hopefully King Michael and all his aunts and cousins will be able to attend the wedding.

Link: Royal Musings: Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth-Mills is engaged.
 
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King Michael was not able to attend even the service for Queen Anne in Morges, so it is highly doubtable that he will be going to his grandson's wedding.

The last time the king was in Romania itself was in November 2014.

One imagines no one from the Romanian family, excepting perhaps Nicholas' sister Karina, will be at the marriage. The Duke and Duchess of Vendôme, the Duke and Duchess of Bragança, Prince Leka and Princess Elia of the Albanians, and one of the Serbian princes are the only royal guests that I can envision - based solely on Nicholas' contacts with them while in the Royal House and an enduring relationship that exists with some of the them in his private life now.
 
Benjamin said:
King Michael was not able to attend even the service for Queen Anne in Morges, so it is highly doubtable that he will be going to his grandson's wedding.

The last time the king was in Romania itself was in November 2014.

One imagines no one from the Romanian family, excepting perhaps Nicholas' sister Karina, will be at the marriage. The Duke and Duchess of Vendôme, the Duke and Duchess of Bragança, Prince Leka and Princess Elia of the Albanians, and one of the Serbian princes are the only royal guests that I can envision - based solely on Nicholas' contacts with them while in the Royal House and an enduring relationship that exists with some of the them in his private life now.
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And what about his mom, Princess Elena?
 
Benjamin said:
Unless relations have improved, her absence might be expected as well.

Royal Musings: Nicholas Medforth-Mills talks to the press
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We tend to overlook it, but his mother, with whom the relationship seems not too warm at the moment, always was before him in King Michael's version of the succession. Besides a strained mother-and-son relationship, this also means a strained relationship between the Number Two in the succession and the (then) Number Three. Hopefully the relationshiop of Nicolas with his sister (the ever invisible) Elizabeth Medforth Mills is "normal".
 
Benjamin said:
King Michael was not able to attend even the service for Queen Anne in Morges, so it is highly doubtable that he will be going to his grandson's wedding.

The last time the king was in Romania itself was in November 2014.

One imagines no one from the Romanian family, excepting perhaps Nicholas' sister Karina, will be at the marriage. The Duke and Duchess of Vendôme, the Duke and Duchess of Bragança, Prince Leka and Princess Elia of the Albanians, and one of the Serbian princes are the only royal guests that I can envision - based solely on Nicholas' contacts with them while in the Royal House and an enduring relationship that exists with some of the them in his private life now.
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It would be painful when the Orléans and the Braganças and other distinghuised royal guests attend the wedding and none of the Romanian princesses.
 
We have one year to discuss it . A lot of Events may happen.
 
Terrible that there is such bad blood in the family,God only knows what caused such a rift between mother and son,I really hope they can solve this as life is too short for silly feuds.
 
The engagement of Nicholas de Roumanie and Alina-Maria Binder was featured in the most recent issue of Point de Vue.
 

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Benjamin said:
King Michael was not able to attend even the service for Queen Anne in Morges, so it is highly doubtable that he will be going to his grandson's wedding.

The last time the king was in Romania itself was in November 2014.

One imagines no one from the Romanian family, excepting perhaps Nicholas' sister Karina, will be at the marriage. The Duke and Duchess of Vendôme, the Duke and Duchess of Bragança, Prince Leka and Princess Elia of the Albanians, and one of the Serbian princes are the only royal guests that I can envision - based solely on Nicholas' contacts with them while in the Royal House and an enduring relationship that exists with some of the them in his private life now.
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Thanks for providing interesting details about the Romanian royals!
Nicholas has made a decision to move on. Family relationships can not be mended.
 
The wedding may be a year away, I have to agree, I don't think the rift in the Royal Family will be mended by that time unless a miracle happens. Family rifts are the worst of all relationships and are also the most bitter. I wish the couple all the best and maybe a miracle will happen. (No, I'm not holding my breath)
 
Is anyone surprised by the recent national and international media coverage? Although the attention has been limited I am still struck at how well handled it has been from a PR perspective with very positive images of the couple in various romantic locations. While this makes great spectacle for us it might be something the Romanian royals need to cautiously reflect on before making rash decisions to ignore or not. The long engagement period (if it is a summer wedding) will provide adequate time for them to make the considered decision to attend the wedding or not. Whatever their decision I think Nicolae de Roumaine could be on a winning streak with this marriage at least in the eyes of his many admirers but it still early days and I don't think this is PR puff but a concerted effort in a choreographed return to public life for the King's grandson.
 
It was mentioned in a few boulevard press and in royalty oriented media, for so sar I can see. I have not seen articles in serious foreign media. My guess is that when you ask people in Timisoara, Cluj, Brasov, Constanta or Bucharest about Mr Medforth Mills and Miss Binder, there will not be that much of a reaction at all. Having romantic pictures seems no PR-strategy to me but a normal feature for every engaged couple.
 
Dalriada said:
Is anyone surprised by the recent national and international media coverage? Although the attention has been limited I am still struck at how well handled it has been from a PR perspective with very positive images of the couple in various romantic locations. While this makes great spectacle for us it might be something the Romanian royals need to cautiously reflect on before making rash decisions to ignore or not. The long engagement period (if it is a summer wedding) will provide adequate time for them to make the considered decision to attend the wedding or not. Whatever their decision I think Nicolae de Roumaine could be on a winning streak with this marriage at least in the eyes of his many admirers but it still early days and I don't think this is PR puff but a concerted effort in a choreographed return to public life for the King's grandson.
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This very point was the subject of an opinion piece last week in România liberă, one of the leading Romanian newspapers.

The author Marius Ghilezan opens with the title "Will We Have A Royal Wedding?" He reminds that this could be the first royal wedding in the country in eighty-seven years, the last having occurred in 1930 when Princess Ileana wed Archduke Anton of Austria-Tuscany. He touches on the various aspects of how a regal nuptial ceremony in Romania could be hugely beneficial for the presence of the Royal family in solidifying its status and its future, given that Nicholas has maintained the popularity that was created while he was actively carrying out duties as a Prince of Romania. Even as a "private" citizen, he has remained active in the charitable causes that he championed. It is noted that under the present (2007) House Laws, the marriage of Nicholas to Alina would not be considered morganatic - both the King and the Crown Princess have sent congratulatory letters to the young couple.

Further, it is emphasised that Princess Margarita and Prince Radu have perhaps focused too greatly on strengthening the financial standing of the Royal House (there has been some not terribly positive comment in the press recently about the negotiations for a civil list for the family under the proposed law on its status, as well as on a royal request for a rent increase from the government on one of the castles that is used as a public museum), and not enough on actually ensuring that it survives after them. It is noted that though Nicholas may not be currently seen to be in line to the succession, he will still be an heir to the private estates of the Royal family in Romania - unless there is a change of law, and the fortune and properties become held by a trust. There is the observation that it would be extremely shrewd of the Crown Princess to unify the family in time for Nicholas' wedding next year. Such a reunification would undoubtedly be positively received by Romanian society, which was very shocked by the sudden ejection from Nicholas from the Royal family.

The author invites us to imagine the scene of a large wedding between a restored Prince Nicholas and his fiancée at Castle Peleş and attended by the great and good of Romanian society, the Crown Princess and Prince Radu, as well as by swathes of the Gotha [who have clearly not all agreed with Nicholas' change in status].

Mr Ghilezan closes with the line: "Prejudices [presumably intra-familial, based on the tone of the article] should not be allowed to damage the future prospects of the Romanian dynasty."

Vom avea o nuntă regală? | OPINIE

How the following year develops could be extremely interesting, depending on how the family handles the situation and possibilities.
 
Benjamin said:
This very point was the subject of an opinion piece last week in România liberă, one of the leading Romanian newspapers.



The author Marius Ghilezan opens with the title "Will We Have A Royal Wedding?" He reminds that this could be the first royal wedding in the country in eighty-seven years, the last having occurred in 1930 when Princess Ileana wed Archduke Anton of Austria-Tuscany. He touches on the various aspects of how a regal nuptial ceremony in Romania could be hugely beneficial for the presence of the Royal family in solidifying its status and its future, given that Nicholas has maintained the popularity that was created while he was actively carrying out duties as a Prince of Romania. Even as a "private" citizen, he has remained active in the charitable causes that he championed. It is noted that under the present (2007) House Laws, the marriage of Nicholas to Alina would not be considered morganatic - both the King and the Crown Princess have sent congratulatory letters to the young couple.



Further, it is emphasised that Princess Margarita and Prince Radu have perhaps focused too greatly on strengthening the financial standing of the Royal House (there has been some not terribly positive comment in the press recently about the negotiations for a civil list for the family under the proposed law on its status, as well as on a royal request for a rent increase from the government on one of the castles that is used as a public museum), and not enough on actually ensuring that it survives after them. It is noted that though Nicholas may not be currently seen to be in line to the succession, he will still be an heir to the private estates of the Royal family in Romania - unless there is a change of law, and the fortune and properties become held by a trust. There is the observation that it would be extremely shrewd of the Crown Princess to unify the family in time for Nicholas' wedding next year. Such a reunification would undoubtedly be positively received by Romanian society, which was very shocked by the sudden ejection from Nicholas from the Royal family.



The author invites us to imagine the scene of a large wedding between a restored Prince Nicholas and his fiancée at Castle Peleş and attended by the great and good of Romanian society, the Crown Princess and Prince Radu, as well as by swathes of the Gotha [who have clearly not all agreed with Nicholas' change in status].



Mr Ghilezan closes with the line: "Prejudices [presumably intra-familial, based on the tone of the article] should not be allowed to damage the future prospects of the Romanian dynasty."



Vom avea o nuntă regală? | OPINIE



How the following year develops could be extremely interesting, depending on how the family handles the situation and possibilities.
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Thank you Benjamin for bringing this Romanian commentator's thoughts to our attention.
While the author invites us to consider a "restored" Nicholas which under the described circumstances regarding the tarnished image of the Royal family, I think that might be a little premature but then again anything is possible even while the King lives. Any fruit borne after the forthcoming marriage will be another game changer if Nicholas hasn't already been restored by that stage.
Any Monarchy would see the sense to unify itself and its image in hearts and minds with an ever popular returning prodigal son and a fairytale marriage on home ground.
 
Cory said:
She could become at least as popular as her husband. With her experience she can help a lot the cause of the Monarchy.
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Why would she help the cause of monarchy in Romania, when she in your book is the partner of someone who has no claim to the throne, will have no title or presence other than as a private citizen and who's aunt-in-law, has no legitimate claim to the throne and no monarchical rights?

For goodness sake, at least try to be consistent, so any of these posts can be taken seriously.
 
Benjamin said:
This very point was the subject of an opinion piece last week in România liberă, one of the leading Romanian newspapers.

The author Marius Ghilezan opens with the title "Will We Have A Royal Wedding?" He reminds that this could be the first royal wedding in the country in eighty-seven years, the last having occurred in 1930 when Princess Ileana wed Archduke Anton of Austria-Tuscany. He touches on the various aspects of how a regal nuptial ceremony in Romania could be hugely beneficial for the presence of the Royal family in solidifying its status and its future, given that Nicholas has maintained the popularity that was created while he was actively carrying out duties as a Prince of Romania. Even as a "private" citizen, he has remained active in the charitable causes that he championed. It is noted that under the present (2007) House Laws, the marriage of Nicholas to Alina would not be considered morganatic - both the King and the Crown Princess have sent congratulatory letters to the young couple.

Further, it is emphasised that Princess Margarita and Prince Radu have perhaps focused too greatly on strengthening the financial standing of the Royal House (there has been some not terribly positive comment in the press recently about the negotiations for a civil list for the family under the proposed law on its status, as well as on a royal request for a rent increase from the government on one of the castles that is used as a public museum), and not enough on actually ensuring that it survives after them. It is noted that though Nicholas may not be currently seen to be in line to the succession, he will still be an heir to the private estates of the Royal family in Romania - unless there is a change of law, and the fortune and properties become held by a trust. There is the observation that it would be extremely shrewd of the Crown Princess to unify the family in time for Nicholas' wedding next year. Such a reunification would undoubtedly be positively received by Romanian society, which was very shocked by the sudden ejection from Nicholas from the Royal family.

The author invites us to imagine the scene of a large wedding between a restored Prince Nicholas and his fiancée at Castle Peleş and attended by the great and good of Romanian society, the Crown Princess and Prince Radu, as well as by swathes of the Gotha [who have clearly not all agreed with Nicholas' change in status].

Mr Ghilezan closes with the line: "Prejudices [presumably intra-familial, based on the tone of the article] should not be allowed to damage the future prospects of the Romanian dynasty."

Vom avea o nuntă regală? | OPINIE

How the following year develops could be extremely interesting, depending on how the family handles the situation and possibilities.
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The religious wedding of this couple should be in Romania and it could strengthen the popularity of the only descendant of the King with any chance and interest to bring Monarchy back.
 
It will be interesting to see which Orthodox metropolitan or bishop will officiate the religious marriage and in which church. Let's hope somebody closer to the King's Family than the patriarch.
 
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Is Alina Maria Binder Orthodox? Her parents are both Romanian?
 
I don't know what confession she is of.
 
Cory said:
The religious wedding of this couple should be in Romania and it could strengthen the popularity of the only descendant of the King with any chance and interest to bring Monarchy back.
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You seem to forget that Crown Princess Margareta is currently the descendant that has most change to bring the Monarchy back as she is considered the 'Custodian of the Crown' by her own family, the church and many others. And you even suggest that she doesn't have an interest (and apparently neither does her sister Maria who has been doing lots of engagements in Romania in the last few years - far more that the king's grandson). That's quite mixed up :ohmy:
 
If Alina de Roumanie Medforth Mills' s father is German he must be Catholic or Lutheran and his daughter could be the same.
 
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