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I feel like showing affection like holding hands being seen as neediness or insecurity is very similar to people talking about their problems being seen as weak. I just don't understand it, I guess. Do coldness and distant define strength and power to some?
As I said further up the thread, I hope Meghan and Harry dial it back a bit, but I've never thought they crossed over into "get a room" territory, and can't imagine they would. It was kind of cute at first, but I also think that they are working, and a little restraint would be nice. They aren't celebrities, they are working royals, and while the occasional pat or hand holding is very sweet and humanizing, when it's constant it has the effect of taking attention away from the events or causes that they are supposed to be representing. I suppose it could be a cultural or generational thing, as AlowVera points out, above.
No, it makes them American political figures, which Harry and Meghan are not. I think that may be what this divide boils down to, as other posters have pointed out: the BRF operates in certain ways, and exuberant displays of affection between spouses while they are on public engagements has not been the norm, and so it is noticeable when Meghan and Harry appear to be in constant physical contact with each other. It's not bad, it's not terrible, it doesn't make them awful people, but it is something that catches your attention, and whether an observer thinks it is appropriate or not may depend on expectations, background and perspective. It's a legitimate thing to notice and have an opinion on, and a legitimate thing to have differing opinions on.
I feel like showing affection like holding hands being seen as neediness or insecurity is very similar to people talking about their problems being seen as weak. I just don't understand it, I guess. Do coldness and distant define strength and power to some?
BTW, why is Meghan being singled out here? Isn't Harry holding her hand as much as she is holding his? I do notice this is something often being used against women. Not just here.
BTW, why is Meghan being singled out here? Isn't Harry holding her hand as much as she is holding his? I do notice this is something often being used against women. Not just here.
Could you point out to me where Meghan is being singled out? I apologize if I missed it, but I'm really not remembering where this happened on this thread. If you are referencing the tabloid media, then I'm in complete agreement that that's a fearsome double standard.
Wyewale said it says neediness and insecurity (or something along those lines) and then goes on about how he's being assured by people here that it's not how Meghan is.
I just prefer that Harry and Meghan feel free to just be themselves. They're not marionettes on a string dancing to anyone's tune but their own. They're a wonderful couple together and that is really all that matters in the long run.
And so it continues. Now it's a 'dictatorial bride' wanting to 'freshen up' the smell inside St George's Chapel. Again from the DM, and it seems that at least one of these leakers about Meghan behaviour as a bride to be comes from the staff at BP. And on this occasion I really don't believe the Fail is making it up.
(Incidentally, a lot of old buildings in Britain feel slightly musty, something the majority of people who've grown up with it don't even notice. However, most people who come from elsewhere would perhaps find things a bit smelly.)
Was it really necessary for someone from BP, perhaps from the Lord Chamberlain's department itself, to impart this anecdote to the Fail months later, in order to reinforce the 'ignorant American bridezilla' narrative the tabloids seem to want to harp on?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...d-air-fresheners-musty-St-Georges-Chapel.html
And so it continues. Now it's a 'dictatorial bride' wanting to 'freshen up' the smell inside St George's Chapel. Again from the DM, and it seems that at least one of these leakers about Meghan behaviour as a bride to be comes from the staff at BP. And on this occasion I really don't believe the Fail is making it up.
(Incidentally, a lot of old buildings in Britain feel slightly musty, something the majority of people who've grown up with it don't even notice. However, most people who come from elsewhere would perhaps find things a bit smelly.)
Was it really necessary for someone from BP, perhaps from the Lord Chamberlain's department itself, to impart this anecdote to the Fail months later, in order to reinforce the 'ignorant American bridezilla' narrative the tabloids seem to want to harp on?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...d-air-fresheners-musty-St-Georges-Chapel.html
And so it continues. Now it's a 'dictatorial bride' wanting to 'freshen up' the smell inside St George's Chapel. Again from the DM, and it seems that at least one of these leakers about Meghan behaviour as a bride to be comes from the staff at BP. And on this occasion I really don't believe the Fail is making it up.
(Incidentally, a lot of old buildings in Britain feel slightly musty, something the majority of people who've grown up with it don't even notice. However, most people who come from elsewhere would perhaps find things a bit smelly.)
Was it really necessary for someone from BP, perhaps from the Lord Chamberlain's department itself, to impart this anecdote to the Fail months later, in order to reinforce the 'ignorant American bridezilla' narrative the tabloids seem to want to harp on?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...d-air-fresheners-musty-St-Georges-Chapel.html
Ok, I’m not even going down the road of if it’s true or not. But let’s just give DM the benefit of the doubt and say it’s true. There is nothing “dictatorial” about a groom or a bride having an idea and asking if it’s possible, and then accepting that the idea is not going to work out. It’s called wedding planning. It happens at every wedding. It doesn’t make anyone a bridezilla.
Honestly, given that the Sussex wedding is about as pared back as you could expect, I can’t see how Harry or Meghan would be gossiped about as difficult or demanding or high strung. Given that they didn’t meet Bishop Curry and Meghan didn’t see her wedding veil until either the day before or the day of the wedding, I’d think they are probably the most laid back couple I’ve had to deal with.
Buckingham Palace have denied a Dan Wooton/Mirror story about supposed Kate and Meghan scrap.
https://www.elle.com/culture/celebr...-kate-middleton-meghan-markle-argument-story/
So now supposedly BP has a statement but not KP?
The smear campaign against Duchess Meghan is vulgar & disgusting! Especially that it is against a new member of the royal family who has shown such enthusiasm for her new role & brought positive attention to the BRF. As a longtime Monarchist I’ve seen a lot, however this treatment of the pregnant Duchess Meghan is appalling!
I agree with AlowVera, it makes the institution look awful!
Not that it will make any difference to the BRF, but I’ll be closing my account with the Royal Collection Shop. Purchasing further royal gifts is a turn off when a pregnant woman is being needlessly attacked.
Buckingham Palace have denied a Dan Wooton/Mirror story about supposed Kate and Meghan scrap.
https://www.elle.com/culture/celebr...-kate-middleton-meghan-markle-argument-story/