Pre-Abdication, Information and Musings’ thread

[principessa]

Do you think that Count Nikolai will return back to Denmark for the abdication?

 

[Muhler]

Do you think that Count Nikolai will return back to Denmark for the abdication?

No, it's quite a lot of flying back and forth for someone who is pretty far down the ranks within the DRF.
It'll take Nikolai most of a week to fly in, settle, and fly back again. I think he will skip and congratulate his farbror later.

 

[TLLK]

No, it's quite a lot of flying back and forth for someone who is pretty far down the ranks within the DRF.
It'll take Nikolai most of a week to fly in, settle, and fly back again. I think he will skip and congratulate his farbror later.

That makes sense that he'd remain in Australia.
(..)

 

[Royalist.in.NC]

Well, it's a note a teacher don't see every day: Henrik and Athena can't go to school tomorrow, their uncle is going to be king.

I love this and you are so right!

I don’t know if anyone has started a thread, so please feel free to move this. What are your thought about J & M remaining in DC? Does this change anything? Or was this part of the pre-abdication planning?

 

[tommy100]

I would assume part of it, unless the abdication decision really was really rather sudden.

 

[iceflower]

A number of posts that were off-topic for this thread have been moved to the following thread:

** Denmark - Questions & Information **

 

[doro]

That makes sense that he'd remain in Australia.
(..)

Last June/July he moved to Australia to study during six months. I can believe that this time in the Land Down Under has gone and could fly back to Denmark to watch the proclamation of his uncle Frederik

 

[Somebody]

The semester will be over; as the main Australian school holidays are in January (starting in December depending on the state extending into early February). UTS, where Nikolai was studying, ended their regular semester in November and had their Rescheduled and Alternative Exams period just before Christmas. The next semester will start mid-February.

 

[PhillyMonarchist]

Probably the SWB, Greek and Nordic royal families as well the Presidents of Iceland and Finland will attend the proclamation

it would the current president of finland last foregin visit as president i believe he is term limit new elections this year

 

[Izzie]

Found this piece of video on YouTube of the moment QMII was proclaimed Queen on the balcony of Christianborg on January 15th 1972.

I assume this is basically how the proclamation will be for Frederik with the needed revisions given the difference in circumstances.

Added: link to proclamation video posted by DRF YouTube a few years ago

 

[polyesco]

"On January 14, there will be a celebration all over Denmark, and especially in Copenhagen there will be a gigantic celebration on the occasion of the change of throne.
Now it is revealed that Tivoli on January 14 at 18.00 will set off the biggest fireworks display in the history of the old amusement park."

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...s-kommende-kongepar-og-dronning-margrethe-kan

(..)

Here is the program for the change of throne:

Sunday, January 14

At 13.35 The Crown Prince couple drives from Amalienborg
The Crown Prince couple and HRH Prince Christian drive by car from Frederik VIII's Palace, Amalienborg to Christiansborg Castle.
Route: Frederiksgade, Bredgade, Kongens Nytorv, Holmens Kanal, Prins Jørgens Gård

At 13.37 HM The Queen travels in the coach from Amalienborg
H.M. The Queen rides in the carriage from Christian IX's Palace, Amalienborg to Christiansborg Castle, escorted by the Horse Squadron of the Guardhussar Regiment.
Route: Frederiksgade, Bredgade, Kongens Nytorv, Holmens Kanal, Prins Jørgens Gård

At 14.00 Council of State at Christiansborg Castle
H.M. The Queen, HRH the Crown Prince and HRH Prince Christian participate together with the government and the Cabinet Secretary in the Council of State.
The change of throne takes place during the meeting of the Council of State at the moment when the Queen has signed a declaration of her abdication.

At 14.15 HM Queen Margrethe's departure from Christiansborg Castle
H.M. Queen Margrethe drives to Christian IX's Palace, Amalienborg.
Route: Prins Jørgens Gård, Holmens Bro, Holmens Kanal, Kongens Nytorv, Bredgade, Sankt Annæ Plads, Amaliegade, Amalienborg

At 14.30 The royal couple hold a reception for special guests at Christiansborg Castle

At 15.00 Proclamation from the balcony of Christiansborg Castle
H.M. King Frederik 10 steps out onto the balcony at Christiansborg Castle, after which the Prime Minister proclaims the change of throne.
The king speaks and concludes with the new royal motto.

At 15.10 Salute of honor from Battery Sixtus
After the proclamation, a salute is fired with 3 x 27 shots from Battery Sixtus on Holmen, Copenhagen.

At 15.10 The Royal Flag is taken down and re-raised at Amalienborg
After the proclamation, the Royal Flag is taken down at Christian IX's Palace and raised at Frederik VIII's Palace, Amalienborg.

At 15.30 The royal couple rides in the carriage from Christiansborg Castle
After the proclamation, the royal couple rides in the carriage escorted by the Guardhussar Regiment's Horse Squadron from Christiansborg Castle to Frederik VIII's Palace, Amalienborg.
Route: Prins Jørgens Gård, Holmens Bro, Holmens Kanal, Kongens Nytorv, Bredgade, Sankt Annæ Plads, Amaliegade, Amalienborg

At 17.00 Transfer of the royal banners
Transfer of the royal banners from Christian IX's Palace to Frederik VIII's Palace, Amalienborg.



Monday 15 January
At 10.00 Reception in the Folketing
The royal family participates in the Folketing's celebration of the change of throne. During the meeting in the Folketingsalen, the Speaker of the Folketing and the Prime Minister speak, and in this connection the Prime Minister brings an oral message from the King to the Folketing. Afterwards, the royal family attends a reception in the Landstingsalen.


Sunday, January 21
At 14.00 Celebration service in Aarhus Cathedral
On the occasion of the change of throne, a celebration service will be held in Aarhus Cathedral with representatives of official Denmark and representatives from the city of Aarhus. The service is led by the royal confessor and bishop of Aarhus Diocese, Henrik Wigh-Poulsen.

https://www.kongehuset.dk/nyheder/program-for-tronskiftet

 

[Saragli]

"On January 14, there will be a celebration all over Denmark, and especially in Copenhagen there will be a gigantic celebration on the occasion of the change of throne.
Now it is revealed that Tivoli on January 14 at 18.00 will set off the biggest fireworks display in the history of the old amusement park."

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...s-kommende-kongepar-og-dronning-margrethe-kan

That will be a sight to see!

 

[tommy100]

Press info for the events - it suggests the Council of State will be shown in some form

https://www.kongehuset.dk/media/q0an5j1u/media-programme_succession-of-the-throne.pdf

 

[Muhler]

And the whole thing will no doubt be shown on DR1. - Probably all day long!

 

[Stefan]

So the abdicated Queen has to leave before the proclamation of the new King. Pity that there is no second Balcony appearance at Amalienborg like in 1972. There they could have included Margrethe similiar to what they do in the Netherlands

 

[Saragli]

So the abdicated Queen has to leave before the proclamation of the new King. Pity that there is no second Balcony appearance at Amalienborg like in 1972. There they could have included Margrethe similiar to what they do in the Netherlands

Sunset is around 1600 in Copenhagen so in theory they do have enough time for a balcony appearance at Amalienborg before it gets dark. Although not sure why they wouldn't announce it .

 

[Izzie]

The DRF Instagram has posted photos and information regarding the carriage that will take QMII from Amalienborg to Christianborg and later transport King Frederik and Queen Mary from Christianborg to Amalienborg

https://www.instagram.com/p/C12eUFft9UE/?igsh=MzY1NDJmNzMyNQ==

 

[Adda]

Can we expect a gala dinner? As is a happy ascension to the throne because no one died.

 

[Curryong]

That is a full and comprehensive programme. Great to have the translation as unfortunately I can’t speak Danish!

I wonder whether any of the news Channels here in Aus will send anyone to cover this. Probably not, but there could well be news feeds from Danish TV showing the new King and Queen on the balcony and in their carriage with cheering crowds in the streets. I hope so. This is, after all, the first time an Aussie will be a Queen Consort to a reigning King.

 

[CrownPrincessJava]

That is a full and comprehensive programme. Great to have the translation as unfortunately I can’t speak Danish!

I wonder whether any of the news Channels here in Aus will send anyone to cover this. Probably not, but there could well be news feeds from Danish TV showing the new King and Queen on the balcony and in their carriage with cheering crowds in the streets. I hope so. This is, after all, the first time an Aussie will be a Queen Consort to a reigning King.

I don't think Australian TV will have live coverage, considering it will be 11:30pm ACDT/midnight AEDT when Council of State occurs and the early hours of Monday morning for the actual Proclamation. I think their wedding coverage in Australia was off the back of the EBU and that was in itself was a special deal with SBS as there was a lot of interest in the wedding.

 

[maria-olivia]

I found endly in the Royal jewels message board a thread posted by Arthur with pictures of the different collars , sashes , orders worn by King frederik IX and Queen Margrete II.

 

[taogg]

I was wondering what the dress code would be?
As far as I remember, QMII wore long dress with hat/lace.

 

[CrownPrincessJava]

I was wondering what the dress code would be?
As far as I remember, QMII wore long dress with hat/lace.

QMII was in mourning dress when she was Proclaimed as Queen. I suspect it will be day formal wear, like they have for Flag day

 

[Tatiana Maria]

"On January 14, there will be a celebration all over Denmark, and especially in Copenhagen there will be a gigantic celebration on the occasion of the change of throne.
Now it is revealed that Tivoli on January 14 at 18.00 will set off the biggest fireworks display in the history of the old amusement park."

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...s-kommende-kongepar-og-dronning-margrethe-kan

Tivoli's press release:

https://www.tivoli.dk/da/om/presse/pressemeddelelser/2024/velkommen-og-tak-for-den-store-scenografi

In addition to welcoming the new king and queen, the fireworks display is intended to thank Queen Margrethe for the "scenography" she has used over the past 52 years to "tell the story of Denmark" with "special artistic sensibility", tradition and innovation, seriousness and levity, surprise and wonder. (Considering the Queen's artistic work, I'm not sure if Tivoli means this tribute to her "scenography" literally, figuratively or both; perhaps Danish speaking members could clarify.)


Here is the link to the English version of the announcement of the program for the change of throne posted by polyesco (which is also included in the media packet linked by tommy100):

https://www.kongehuset.dk/en/news/programme-for-the-succession-of-the-throne

 

[Curryong]

I don't think Australian TV will have live coverage, considering it will be 11:30pm ACDT/midnight AEDT when Council of State occurs and the early hours of Monday morning for the actual Proclamation. I think their wedding coverage in Australia was off the back of the EBU and that was in itself was a special deal with SBS as there was a lot of interest in the wedding.

Yes I knew the time difference would probably prohibit live coverage of the ceremonies. However, hopefully Aus morning TV might have some clips and the TV news the next night some more.

 

[CrownPrincessJava]

Yes I knew the time difference would probably prohibit live coverage of the ceremonies. However, hopefully Aus morning TV might have some clips and the TV news the next night some more.

I hazard-a-guess they definitely will, and probably have journalists on the ground in Copenhagen too, crossing over to them from 5.30am our time to get the "scoop".

 

[Hans-Rickard]

I was wondering what the dress code would be?
As far as I remember, QMII wore long dress with hat/lace.

King Christian X (in 1912) and King Frederik IX (in 1947) wore uniforms with orders and medals at their proclamations… Queen Ingrid (in 1947) and Queen Margrethe II (in 1972) wore black court mourning dress’… QMII also pinned on the Order of the Elephant…

Now when the court will not be in mourning, i would guess uniform for Frederik and formal dress for Mary, like we saw on the recent New Years Receptions

 

[Kingen]

King Christian X (in 1912) and King Frederik IX (in 1947) wore uniforms with orders and medals at their proclamations… Queen Ingrid (in 1947) and Queen Margrethe II (in 1972) wore black court mourning dress’… QMII also pinned on the Order of the Elephant…

Now when the court will not be in mourning, i would guess uniform for Frederik and formal dress for Mary, like we saw on the recent New Years Receptions

I would also say that the dress code would be like the New Years Receptions. Or at least I hope so.

 

[TLLK]

Yes I knew the time difference would probably prohibit live coverage of the ceremonies. However, hopefully Aus morning TV might have some clips and the TV news the next night some more.

Curryong-I hope that there is good coverage of this story in Australia!

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Will Princess Benedikte's children Prince Gustav of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Beleburg, Princess Alexandra, and Princess Nathalie attend?