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A former bodyguard of Diana, Princess of Wales, has claimed the government's intelligence services were behind the so-called "Squidgygate" tapes.
Diana Inquest: Claim Government Behind Squidgygate Tapes |Sky News|World News
Ken Wharfe, who guarded Diana for around seven years until 1993, told her inquest he believed the British intelligence listening station GCHQ had routinely bugged the Princess' conversations.....
.........He explained that the Queen told the Princess she was "unhappy" about the tape and ordered an inquiry into the incident but he did not know the result of the investigation.
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It will be interesting if Buckingham Palace confirm that the Queen ordered an investigation
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01-10-2008, 02:59 PM
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Diana, Princess of Wales, and Dodi al Fayed were intending to move to Malibu, the home of Hollywood's biggest stars, her inquest has been told
Inquest: Princess Diana And Dodi Al Fayed 'Moving To Malibu' |Sky News|UK News
Didn't Simmons originally say Diana had told her of some letters, not shown her?
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01-10-2008, 03:27 PM
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I can't bare that Simmons ! Isn't she bored of coming up with new scoops every time we ask her something ... Oh right ! I forgot, ... that's her job
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01-10-2008, 03:48 PM
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Yeah, and I'm Mohammed Al Fayed!
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01-11-2008, 03:31 AM
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One should really read the transcripts not the media coverage because the media does not point out obviously lies (that are discussed in the inquest) and leaves out a lot.
For example the Malibu-story: Kelly Fisher had told the inquest that Dodi and she selected the house in Malibu which is only 10 miles away from her own house on Pacific Ocean highway. The house was readied for her to move in but she was in Paris at that time, so her maid started to work there preparing everything. Then it turned out that Mohammed Al-Fayed had bought the house of Dodi, not Dodi himself and Mohammed gave orders to throw Kelly off the premises when she wanted to move in.
So far I can believe the story because between buying the house and Kelly's try to move in Mohammed had set Dodi up with Diana. But why should Dodi want to live with Diana in a house that was selected because Kelly Fisher on her marriage with Dodi did not want to leave the neighborhodd she had come to like since moving there (she still lives in Malibu?) Dodi had no connection to Malibu before and suddenly he wanted to move with Diana there?
Just imagine: Diana was just past a divorce where she had claimed to have been the injured part in a triangle of husband, wife and mistress. Now there is this Kelly Fisher who obviously has lots of witness statements (partly from Malibu residents) to support her claim that Dodi had wanted to marry her and move into that house with her. So I guess there is some truth in it.
Malibu is not your average Small Town America, but the "society" there is formed mostly be celebrities and mostly American. While the average American may adore foreigners and Royality to boot, I'm not sure that this is the case with American celebrities who have to fight pretty tough for their place on top. Especially with a lady like Diana, who not only had a history of trying to steal husbands, fight dirty and collecting most of the media's interest. A lady who had already stolen the fiance of one of Malibu's ladies. I doubt Diana would have wanted to move to malibu. I doubt Dodi would have wanted to meet Kelly at every corner.
So yes, Diana probably thought about moving partly to the US, as have told quite some acquaintances of her. But to Malibu? Come on!
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01-11-2008, 06:07 AM
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Personally, the one thing (today) that is peeving me about this inquest is the blatant attempt to blacken Prince Phillip. Hey, I know the man isn't the most charming guy on the planet but he has always been a rock of support for the Queen and his role cannot have been easy.
Also, it appears that HM is not immune from scurrilous attacks by Dianas' "friends". Its appalling that HM can be attacked in this way and by the friends of a "flash in the pan" like Diana. The only two good things of lasting importance that she gave us were William & Harry!!!
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01-11-2008, 07:38 AM
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I also don't think that Diana would have moved to Malibu because she would be too far away from her sons.
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01-11-2008, 07:55 AM
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Awkward questions for Fayed aide at inquests·
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2238917,00.html
Very interesting article about aide to Fayed. The article said Fayed walked out of inquest when aide was questioned about Diana being pregnant and engaged to to Dodi. Apparently aide was caught lying.
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01-11-2008, 08:03 AM
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Princess ‘may have been murdered over landmine file’
Princess ‘may have been murdered over landmine file’ - Times Online
I don't trust Ms. Simmons. But if it was murder, I believe it was Princess Diana's stance on landmines made it possible for secret services to murdered her in 1997.
I don't believe that the BRF had anything to do with the accident, because as many have said here on this forum that they could have had her killed before the divorce.
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01-11-2008, 08:57 AM
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Awkward questions for Fayed aide at inquests·
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2238917,00.html
Very interesting article about aide to Fayed. The article said Fayed walked out of inquest when aide was questioned about Diana being pregnant and engaged to to Dodi. Apparently aide was caught lying. 
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Oh, I think several of Al-Fayed's aides were already caught lying, either in the time directly after the crash on giving interviews or now at the inquest.
Interesting that when it comes to Kelly Fisher and her relationship with Dodi, those who were in Al-Fayed's employ but aren't any longer say they knew her and support her claims while those still employed by Al-Fayed or in need of his help (like the former butler in Paris who said he needed money from Al-Fayed to pay for his medical bills and treatments and already got thousends of pounds for that) claim that she is either lying or they don't know her at all....
Ot the people in Al-Fayed's employ all the time claim to have talked to people now desceased, who cannot be asked anymore, like Susan Barrantes, Fergie's mother who allegedly said her daughter felt threatened as well when Fergie says she can't recall any such feeling...
Fishy that, very fishy. And quite obviously so.
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01-11-2008, 09:03 AM
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Princess ‘may have been murdered over landmine file’
Princess ‘may have been murdered over landmine file’ - Times Online
I don't trust Ms. Simmons. But if it was murder, I believe it was Princess Diana's stance on landmines made it possible for secret services to murdered her in 1997.
I don't believe that the BRF had anything to do with the accident, because as many have said here on this forum that they could have had her killed before the divorce.
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We should not forget that in 1997 the government in Britain changed. while Diana was opposed to the stance of the old (Tory) government, the new government (Blair's Labour Party) took over her point of view. So I doubt that the people responsible for such things in the secret services wanted to alienate their new superiors on doing such a murderous move to protect a political agenda that was not longer the agenda of the government.
If she had to die because of the landmines, then it was the weapon dealer's interest, not that of the British secret service. I seriously doubt Simone Simmons and her claims that Diana had compiled such a dossier with so dangerous contents that she was killed for that. And then simmons burned her copy and all other documents she was given by Diana? Come on!
Any secret service worth his grain would of course search Simmons' house and find the documents under her mattress if they suspected Diana had given somebody copies - after all Simmons seem to have been a big buddy back then...
So many really stupid things to say.
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He was asked why he had said that there was "not a scrap of evidence" that the princess was pregnant, even though Fayed had told him in the aftermath of the crash that she was....
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Well, this is not lying. I assume "Fayed" refers to Mo not Dodi, since the timeframe is the "aftermath of the crash." So Mo telling the aide, Cole, that Diana was pregnant is not exactly "evidence", or is it? I don't think so.
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If you look on the transcript of Cole's testimony (under part 113) he said Dodi had told him that Dodi and the princess (Cole's words) "were together now" in a (attorney's words, agreed on by Cole) "permanent relationship."
Cole: "[Dodi] said, "We are together now". I don't think there is
degrees of togetherness; they were together. As far as
I was concerned --I think even when people do split up, while
they are together, they are together. I concluded that
they were an item, as they say these days."
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Originally Posted by georgiea
Princess ‘may have been murdered over landmine file’
Princess ‘may have been murdered over landmine file’ - Times Online
I don't trust Ms. Simmons. But if it was murder, I believe it was Princess Diana's stance on landmines made it possible for secret services to murdered her in 1997.
I don't believe that the BRF had anything to do with the accident, because as many have said here on this forum that they could have had her killed before the divorce.
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She is very odd woman, I think!  Check this out, from the transcript of her testimony, section 87:
(Q=Horwell, A=Simmons)
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MR HORWELL: My name is Richard Horwell and I appear on
behalf of the Commissioner of Metropolitan Police.
The two books that you wrote, how much did you
receive for those?
A. Probably not as much as you are earning in a week here.
Q. Direct that comment to that side of the courtroom, Ms Simmons, not this side of the courtroom, if you don't mind! If you could answer my question?
A. I haven't got a clue.
Q. You must have an idea how much?
A. No, I haven't got a clue.
Q. It wasn't that long ago?
A. I seriously haven't got an clue.
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01-11-2008, 03:33 PM
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I also don't think that Diana would have moved to Malibu because she would be too far away from her sons.
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Even I don't believe that Diana would have been so crass as to move into a house that was for her boyfriends marriage to another woman!
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01-11-2008, 07:26 PM
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Paul Burrell alluded to some "secret" in his book "Royal Duty" that implied a move..and it has been mentioned other places it was to Julie Andrews' house...in Malibu... There would be no question of her sons being afforded the highest and best in security so I could fathom Diana making such a drastic move.
The house and the interior can be seen in a Julie Andrews movie in which she plays the mother to Hugh Grant. It aired on Lifetime and also starred Ann-Margret. It aired the summer of 1997, ironically.
Simone Simmons, is someone I would listen to because she noted all sorts of details about Diana, her brand of make-up, hoisery, etc., in her books. Now just because she is a "psychic" by trade would not alter her ability in telling the truth on a witness stand, especially when it comes to someone who meant a lot to her and was entrusted with intimate infortmation from Diana herself.
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01-11-2008, 10:37 PM
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Personally, the one thing (today) that is peeving me about this inquest is the blatant attempt to blacken Prince Phillip. Hey, I know the man isn't the most charming guy on the planet but he has always been a rock of support for the Queen and his role cannot have been easy.
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Prince Philip has been a rock of support for the Queen and they are partners in every way as Prince Andrew recently said.
I believe Prince Philip did write the nasty letters to Diana, and I think that is no big deal. I can sure do the tarantula letters when I get upset, so I understand. However, it disturbs me when Prince Philip lies about this. It makes him look guilty.
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01-12-2008, 12:27 AM
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I am fairly certain of JUST one thing as regards Diana and the Royal Family at this point, SAVE FOR PRINCES WILLIAM AND HARRY, I would wager everything I own that they wish Charles NEVER, EVER, EVER even said hello to the girl, much less anything else and that they had NEVER, EVER, EVER encouraged that relationship in anyway.
IF the above had happened, I think Diana might well be alive and happy and the Royal Family might well be much happier and better satisfied.
The morale to this story is;
STAY OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S PRIVATE LOVE LIFE AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, imo.
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Next monday they'll have Paul Burrell - the chance to "hear" the guy in his own speaking, without anyone who has edited his words...
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