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10-01-2006, 04:15 PM
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regarding iloveroyals outstanding entry, some insight:
1) Princess Caroline in her youth and teenage years had been described by biographers and royal observers as an enthusiastic and rather exroverted lady, brimming with life. After her mother's death though, she transformed into a much more regal and conservative person which, observers interpreted, as a maturity which allowed her to be taken more seriously as Monaco's First Lady. Many believe it was her way of channeling her mother, very aware that her Grace's regal bearing placed Monaco as a major player in Royal Events despite its miniscule size and the fact that theirs is a Princely, not Royal, family.
2) I read in a biography a quote from a Monegasque, "Our Princess (Grace) acts more regal than any Queen does." Just like in iloveroyals' anecdote, Princess Grace had this air around her which gave the impression of a snob. Her friends however explained this as a result of her short-sightedness. She cannot see a few feet away, so she was confined to just smiling beatifically (critics even described her smile as simply plastered on her face and not warm and sincere). This also explained why she simply stayed in one place during gatherings and hoped people would come close to her so she can identify them and then converse with them. And those people who did so attested to her warmth and authenticity as a person versus her public persona as cold and indifferent.
3)Another reason why Princess Grace seemed distant during Prince Rainier's jubilee was that she spearheaded most of the public events, and her friends said that she was half-worried most of the time that the activities would fail. She was still sensitive to the Monegasques' attitude towards her as she did not feel welcome and accepted yet despite producing three children and representing Monaco in a way nobody else could. The event iloveroyals attended was, for Grace, a huge experiment because it allowed their subjects and guests to mingle with them rather casually, and the theme was that of a huge Texas barbecue. It terrified her because one of the major reasons the Monegasques took time accepting her was their general resentment to her "American-ness".
Rainier even said publicly that his jubilee is also a celebration of Grace's unquestionalbe influence and dedication to her new country.
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12-09-2006, 01:56 PM
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Wow! I have to brag here a little. Remember how I said I took pictures of Rainier's Jubilee in 1974, in the public picnic ? Well, I just discovered tbhrc, in pictures of Caroline in the seventies, on p 27, post 537, posted 06-10-2006, that I appear on a picture that was in Bunte. (I happen to have that issue too, so I recognized it right away.) In the forefront is Caroline dancing with someone, in the background are people watching, and I am the first person near the white and red draping, wearing a white shirt, with a big camera and big lens hiding my face. I never thought that a picture of me would actually appear in the Royal Forums ! Of course you need a magnifying glass to see me, but still...
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12-13-2006, 04:24 PM
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Thank you!
"yet very aware of her popularity, and also very alert to all that went on"
I agree...
"She had the most beautiful face and complexion It's hard to describe"
I agree. When I saw her for the first time I found very hard to describe how she is, how she expressed with smile and face, ... I found she is very very impressive like "a First Lady" but lot of energy and charming. I love her blue eyes.
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12-13-2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kokong
I'm happy for you Johan, meeting such a beautiful princess inside and out. I relly think that she stopped and talked to you because of your 'difficulty' and ir shows that Princess Caroline reaaly cares for people in 'disadvantage'. I hope Johan that youn will not offended when I said 'difficulty' I just want to emphasize that the good nature of our princess to everyone.
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Thank you Kokong ! You're not offended me :-) I knew that on her unauthorizated biography, the Princess Caroline said if her is not a princess, she would like to be a "speech therapist for deaf children" so I knew she cares of deaf persons.
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12-14-2006, 04:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iloveroyals
Wow! I have to brag here a little. Remember how I said I took pictures of Rainier's Jubilee in 1974, in the public picnic ? Well, I just discovered tbhrc, in pictures of Caroline in the seventies, on p 27, post 537, posted 06-10-2006, that I appear on a picture that was in Bunte. (I happen to have that issue too, so I recognized it right away.) In the forefront is Caroline dancing with someone, in the background are people watching, and I am the first person near the white and red draping, wearing a white shirt, with a big camera and big lens hiding my face. I never thought that a picture of me would actually appear in the Royal Forums ! Of course you need a magnifying glass to see me, but still...
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could you provide the link to that picture/thread?
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12-14-2006, 07:23 PM
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I thought I did, but maybe I was not very clear. I'll go back to it and post it more clearly.
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07-05-2009, 12:47 AM
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Has anybody ever met any/all of the Casiraghi Trio?
Interested to know what they're like...
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07-05-2009, 09:44 AM
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I saw many years ago jean raymond gottlieb (I think that's his name) in monaco. and two years ago I saw pierre casiraghi in a car with two young ladies, also in monaco.
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07-05-2009, 10:21 AM
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I found this in Mi experiencia con un famoso - Opinión - AL FaN...FaN y AL ViNo... ViNo
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CAROLINA DE MÓNACO: Fue en el año 1998, estábamos de excursión de fin de curso, e hicimos parada en Mónaco, íbamos camino del palacio de los Grimaldi y pasamos por un chalé del que sale una mujer y unos niños y van al contenedor enfrente a tirar la basura. Yo no presté atención hasta que escucho a los padres encargados de la excursión: "Mirad la Carolina", cómo íbamos todo el rato de broma que si mira Alberto que si mira tal....pues cómo que creíamos que era una broma otra vez, hasta que miramos y nos quedamos con la boca abierta, y nada más y menos que tirando la basura.
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translated with google
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CAROLINE OF MONACO: It was in 1998, we were hiking the end of the course, and made stops in Monaco, we were going the way of the Grimaldi Palace and we had a cottage out of a woman and children and go to the front of container throw in the trash. I do not pay attention until I listen to the parents in charge of the excursion: "Look at Carolina," how we were joking the whole time that if you look Alberto such that if you look how that .... because we felt it was a joke again until we look and we are left with their mouths open, and nothing more and less than pulling the trash.
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07-05-2009, 10:47 AM
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In 1987, during GRAND PRIX, I was walking along AVENUE ST. MARTIN , near Caroline 's home , I saw ANDREA and CHARLOTTE with nannies and bodyguards.They were very little, Caroline was pregnant of Pierre, the winner was Senna!
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07-06-2009, 06:51 PM
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Hope it's okay to post this here as this is about an encounter with Albert rather than Caroline - but he is family. Quite a few years' ago I was at the open air summer cinema in Monaco - the old one near the Sporting Club. Incredibly, Albert was in the queue for icecream immediately behind me. I did a double take but tried not to stare too much. He nodded and smiled affably & seemed quite content to wait along with everyone else. He was with two other guys who I later realised were his body guards. Needless to say I made sure I noted where he returned to his seat (which was beside a young blonde lady). The film presentation was Dances with Wolves - quite long I think. Approx. half an hour before the end of the feature, Albert left accompanied by "his friend", & hastily followed by his bodyguards. I have always felt this was a bit unfair on his staff who probably wanted to see the end of the film.
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