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Old 07-19-2020, 06:43 AM
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I feel like you’re comment just proves my point, Eugenie and Margaret wouldn’t haven’t worn it if it was tradition for the senior princesses (neither were).
Mary was the senior princess in her time and didn’t wear it for her wedding. Margaret as a daughter of the sovereign and not simply a grandchild was far more senior. Anne didn’t wear it because it was a tradition, she wore her mother’s wedding tiara. Beatrice doesn’t hold some higher status then her sister because she is older. Closer to the throne by one step but both still junior private royals.
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Old 07-19-2020, 06:53 AM
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[QUOTE=Lumutqueen;2327808]Not turning this thread into another Andrew bashing, but we all know nothing as Andrew hasn’t been accused of anything. Alison H is quite right in that right now all Andrew has done wrong is have questionable friends.

That shouldn’t impact his daughters wedding day, and frankly i’m sorry they feel they can’t release pictures of Beatrice and Edo with Andrew and Sarah.
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Old 07-19-2020, 06:59 AM
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The Queen was originally supposed to have hosted a BP garden party for her granddaughter, which would have been a few hours long, although she may not have stayed for all of it.

They theoretically could have been up to a socially distanced lunch but she had other things to do. It seems unlikely that she went to the type of party it's being described as in the evening for various reasons but also no reason to think that she wouldn't have been up to going to a lunch or afternoon party under different circumstances.
I've got no idea what was planned. I only meant that the wedding itself was clearly a short service, and Im guessing there was no afternoon reception or post wedding lunch as the queen went on to knight that man soon afterwards. Possibly they had a small evening reception and maybe teh queen attended...
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:02 AM
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I agree Lumutqueen. They are a close family, so it's a pity that "the happiest divorced couple in the world" aren't in an official photo with their daughter. I wonder if they might include one in their annual Christmas card?
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:10 AM
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Th service only took half an hour apparently, probably as there could be no singing etc. So say it started at 10, they could be at Royal Lodge for the reception by 10.40 after pictures so HM and Phil (if they were spotted at 11.45) could still have spent an hour at the reception. Given there were only 15 people there that is a lot of time really.

I just think the tiara is the one Beatrice wanted, I don't think anyone said she had to wear it. Surely HM is no not so hung up on titles as to choose Bea to wear this over Zara (the eldest grandaughter) just because one is HRH.
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:17 AM
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HM is very conscious of the difference between having a title and not having one.

We also know, from past brides, that HM is the one who decides the tiara ...
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:19 AM
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Mary was the senior princess in her time and didn’t wear it for her wedding.
Might it be that Mary did not wear it for her wedding as she only had the tiara made a few decades after her wedding to George V?
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:21 AM
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The service started at 11 am according to reports and the Queen and PP were seen driving away at 11.45am presumably after pictures. She then Knighted Sir Tom Moore at 3pm.

The party that the DM (I Know) have detailed was in the evening and the Queen isn't said to have attended. It sounds a little like a slimmed down version of Eugenie's "funfair". They could have had something we aren't aware of slotted in there in the late afternoon or even Saturday or today.

I was originally replying to a post saying that HM and PP were too old and would have been too tired to have gone to the celebrations, having also performed an investiture in the afternoon as well. I was querying because HM had originally be down to attend the wedding then host a garden party for several hours.
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:24 AM
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The service started at 11 am according to reports and the Queen and PP were seen driving away at 11.45am presumably after pictures. She then Knighted Sir Tom Moore at 3pm.

The party that the DM (I Know) have detailed was in the evening and the Queen isn't said to have attended. It sounds a little like a slimmed down version of Eugenie's "funfair". They could have had something we aren't aware of slotted in there in the late afternoon or even Saturday or today.

I was originally replying to a post saying that HM and PP were too old and would have been too tired to have gone to the celebrations, having also performed an investiture in the afternoon as well. I was querying because HM had originally be down to attend the wedding then host a garden party for several hours.
I dont think seh does' more than an hour or so at these garden parties..
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:25 AM
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Beatrice is the senior princess in her generation.

That is what people are saying - that it is becoming a tradition for the senior princess in each generation - Elizabeth was senior to both Margaret and Alexandra, Anne was the only princess and now Beatrice as the senior princess in her generation.

Thank you for succinctly pointing out what I’ve been unable to do so.
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:30 AM
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HM is very conscious of the difference between having a title and not having one.

We also know, from past brides, that HM is the one who decides the tiara ...
It was also said that there was a strict protocol for tiaras and Beatrice would never be in line to wear any major ones because she was "just a York" and nobody in terms of the core Firm, disregarding any personal connection to her grandmother or that she was potentially allowed to choose.

Zara wore one from her mother's collection, passed down from Princess Alice.

Kate apparently wanted a small one and chose/was guided to the Halo scroll, Eugenie apparently wanted a coloured stone and surprised everyone.

Now Beatrice has surprised everyone in a different way in both dress and tiara. I'm not sure there are any hard and fast rules.

It could be a tradition of the "senior princess" in each generation, it's also just as likely to have been a gesture of love and support or Beatrice's admiration of the tiara.

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I dont think seh does' more than an hour or so at these garden parties..
True, but that might not have been the case for her granddaughter's wedding. It doesn't really matter, she was busy in the afternoon and appears not to have gone to the evening (socially distanced!) knees up.
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:47 AM
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HM is very conscious of the difference between having a title and not having one.

We also know, from past brides, that HM is the one who decides the tiara ...
She is really not. She let's her own family choose. She can be dictatorial with the married ins. As in this is the one you can have.

I just think people think she is grander than she is. All the ladies, with the possible exception of Meghan, the tiaras meant something to them. It was the type they wanted. Rumours about Meghan's withstanding.
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:56 AM
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True, but that might not have been the case for her granddaughter's wedding. It doesn't really matter, she was busy in the afternoon and appears not to have gone to the evening (socially distanced!) knees up.
Perhaps not. I doubt if Philip would have gone either..
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:09 AM
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Too much Andrew-Sarah hate in so many comments on this board and others. Bottom line --- they are good parents to their daughters. Their daughters love them. QEII loves and supports her granddaughter -- exhibited so many times, but none more so than when she gave Beatrice on of her own dresses and allowed her to wear a tiara of great historical significance.

Game, set, match --- family loyalty!
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:16 AM
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She is really not. She let's her own family choose. She can be dictatorial with the married ins. As in this is the one you can have.

I just think people think she is grander than she is. All the ladies, with the possible exception of Meghan, the tiaras meant something to them. It was the type they wanted. Rumours about Meghan's withstanding.


How do you know “she is really not”? Have you met The Queen and had conversations about this subject.

Evidence points to the contrary from words of her own grandsons William and Henry.

What did the tiaras mean to Catherine, Eugenie and Beatrice exactly?
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:17 AM
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Did anyone else see the pictures Edo had shared on his Instagram? They had only just been posted, but I wasn't able to share the link. Now they are gone. 3 shots of the couple that must have been taken in the garden at Royal Lodge.
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:21 AM
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The gown was lengthened for Princess Beatrice. After a closer look, there's noticeable seam and different fabric.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images...86b469b612.jpg

It looks as if the additions (hem and sleeves) might be easily removed.
Perhaps Beatrice will wear it again, minus the alterations, at a future celebration.
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:26 AM
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I think the main reason the Queen and Prince Philip didn't stay was to limit their exposure to the other guests. No one wants them to get sick. Beatrice would be devastated if they hot sick at her wedding.
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:30 AM
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Beatrice and Eugenie were as Cendrillon's sisters at William and Kate's wedding....
They are 2 great Brides.
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:31 AM
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Edo has posted more pictures on Instagram today, he has since removed them however;

https://twitter.com/majestymagazine/...565128704?s=21
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