Nicholas Medforth-Mills (formerly His Royal Highness Prince Nicholas of Romania) - Page 14

USCtrojan · #**261** 05-14-2014, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory

Nicholas De Roumanie Medforth Mills is better known by the people now even if he still has to emprove his Romanian.

I do not live in Romania.

His Romanian doesn't seem that bad -he has gotten quite good at it for the short time he has been learning the language.

He does have a very thick accent! It will smooth put over time.

Cory · #**262** 05-15-2014, 05:09 AM

For the moment he prefers not no give long interviews in Romanian.

Nicholas De Roumanie Medforth Mills will be in Constanta on the 21st of May to present the new book about his life. The event will take place at 6 pm at the National History and Archeology Museum Constanta.

USCtrojan · #**263** 05-16-2014, 01:41 AM

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For the moment he prefers not no give long interviews in Romanian.

It's a little hard to do when he is still learning the language. They will come in time as he learns the language and that is what is important. At least he is giving interviews in Romanian.

Cory · #**264** 05-16-2014, 02:06 PM

He is as Romanian as the young Hereditary Prince Alexander of Hohenzollern.

USCtrojan · #**265** 05-16-2014, 03:07 PM

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He is as Romanian as the young Hereditary Prince Alexander of Hohenzollern.

I have to disagree with that... Nicolae is the son, of a daughter to the king of Romania! Young Alexander is not!

**MAfan** · #**266** 05-16-2014, 06:44 PM

I'd also add that Prince Nicolae lives in Romania, has a role in the Romanian Royal Family, is preparing for having a future role in Romania (maybe an official role, maybe not, maybe as King, maybe just as Head of the Royal Family), is showing interest in his Country.
On the contrary Alexander of Hohenzollern doesn't seem to have any interest in Romania, just like his father, and certainly doesn't have any place and role in Romania.

fearghas · #**267** 05-17-2014, 03:02 AM

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I'd also add that Prince Nicolae lives in Romania, has a role in the Romanian Royal Family, is preparing for having a future role in Romania (maybe an official role, maybe not, maybe as King, maybe just as Head of the Royal Family), is showing interest in his Country.
On the contrary Alexander of Hohenzollern doesn't seem to have any interest in Romania, just like his father, and certainly doesn't have any place and role in Romania.

Prince Nicholas is also descended from three of the four king somethinG. Prince Alexander is not.

Cory · #**268** 05-17-2014, 05:30 AM

They have both quite little Romanian blood. the difference is that HSH Prince Alexander was born as a Prince and does not a decision of the Parliament to be recognized as such.

Cory · #**269** 05-17-2014, 05:50 AM

Nicholas De Roumanie Medforth Mills in Pitesti:

PUHOI DE LUME A VENIT SÄ‚-L VADÄ‚ PE PRINCIPELE NICOLAE! | ePitesti

**MAfan** · #**270** 05-18-2014, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory

They have both quite little Romanian blood. the difference is that HSH Prince Alexander was born as a Prince and does not a decision of the Parliament to be recognized as such.

Well, one can argue that even Mr. Alexander Prinz von Hohenzollern isn't legally a Prince, just like Nicolae, and also that he also would need a decision of a Parliament in order to legally be recognized as a Serene Highness and as a Prince, just like Nicolae.

Cory · #**271** 05-18-2014, 06:34 PM

HSH Prince Alexander was born as Prince of Hohenzollern and needs no act of the Parliament to be recognized as such.
Nicholas De Roumania Medforth Mills was not born as a Prince.

fearghas · #**272** 05-19-2014, 04:59 AM

legally there are no such things as princes in germany.

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HSH Prince Alexander was born as Prince of Hohenzollern and needs no act of the Parliament to be recognized as such.
Nicholas De Roumania Medforth Mills was not born as a Prince.

Admiral Horthy · #**273** 05-19-2014, 11:47 AM

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HSH Prince Alexander was born as Prince of Hohenzollern and needs no act of the Parliament to be recognized as such.
Nicholas De Roumania Medforth Mills was not born as a Prince.

But he is recognized as a Prince by the public, the press and, it seems, the government, albeit unofficially. The fact that a government doesn't recognize a title does not take away a person's history or family or his connection to that history.

USCtrojan · #**274** 05-19-2014, 01:03 PM

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But he is recognized as a Prince by the public, the press and, it seems, the government, albeit unofficially. The fact that a government doesn't recognize a title does not take away a person's history or family or his connection to that history.

My thoughts exactly, admiral.

Cory · #**275** 05-20-2014, 05:24 AM

How much Romanian blood has Nicholas De Roumanie Medforth Mills?His mother does not even speak R.omanian.

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wartenberg7 · #**276** 05-20-2014, 09:20 AM

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How much Romanian blood has Nicholas De Roumanie Medforth Mills?His mother does not even speak R.omanian.

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I really hate when people ask a question which in reality is a statement!
What counts is that he´s a direct descendant of King Michael and obviously recognised by his grandfather and the royal family as a possible heir of the Crown Princess.
What´s further more important is how he´s received by the public and the media in Romania! There were many Kings in various countries in history by conquest or vote by the people who were no natives. Many of them had long and successful reigns!
So, "how much romanian blood" he has or his mother´s language skills are of no importance as long Nicolas and his work is accepted by those who count: The majority of the romanian people.

Cory · #**277** 05-20-2014, 09:23 AM

There is no doubt Nicholas De Roumanie Medforth-Mills is becoming more popular but this doesn't mean he is more Romanian than HSH Hereditary Prince Alexander of Hohenzollern.

USCtrojan · #**278** 05-20-2014, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cory

How much Romanian blood has Nicholas De Roumanie Medforth Mills?His mother does not even speak R.omanian.

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Cory, one is not requires to speak the language of their blood lines. It is of course something expected or coon if he were raised in Romania -it is even likely he would have been born there, had his family not been exiled! HRH should not necessarily be required to speak Romanian if he was born and raised out side of Romania. Yes, his family is Romanian and one would assume he should, but the princes family was not only living in exile, but the countries born and lives in did not speak his mother tongue.

I am Croatian and born and raised in the US -to parents who were born and raised in Croatia -but, I don't speak my language either... Had I been born in my country, it is highly likely I would have been a fluent Croatian speaker. My family was more concerned that I could get along in the country I was born and raised in. Am I now learning my language? Yes! Do my parents regret that Croatian was not part of my upbringing? Absolutely! But, neither they, nor myself can do anything about that... I am starting now, and that is all that matters!

My point is -one does not need to be born somewhere to speak the language, nor do boarders negate ones ancestry or blood.

What is most important is that HRH is now working hard on his presence in his country AND learning the language, and ways of Romania. And... He's not doing too bad!

Cris M · #**279** 05-20-2014, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by USCtrojan

Cory, one is not requires to speak the language of their blood lines. It is of course something expected or coon if he were raised in Romania -it is even likely he would have been born there, had his family not been exiled! HRH should not necessarily be required to speak Romanian if he was born and raised out side of Romania. Yes, his family is Romanian and one would assume he should, but the princes family was not only living in exile, but the countries born and lives in did not speak his mother tongue.

I am Croatian and born and raised in the US -to parents who were born and raised in Croatia -but, I don't speak my language either... Had I been born in my country, it is highly likely I would have been a fluent Croatian speaker. My family was more concerned that I could get along in the country I was born and raised in. Am I now learning my language? Yes! Do my parents regret that Croatian was not part of my upbringing? Absolutely! But, neither they, nor myself can do anything about that... I am starting now, and that is all that matters!

My point is -one does not need to be born somewhere to speak the language, nor do boarders negate ones ancestry or blood.

What is most important is that HRH is now working hard on his presence in his country AND learning the language, and ways of Romania. And... He's not doing too bad!

I agree 100% with you.

In my opinion, it's double standards to call Hereditary Prince Alexander a Prince and Prince Nicolae Mr. Nicholas Medforth-Mills. The King grant him the title of Prince, and such a decision must be respected.

And monarchis shouldn't care about what a republican government says about titles. Tradition and respect a much more important. Brazil is not a Monarchy for more than a 100 years now, but no one would dare to call The Head of the Imperial House Mr. Luiz de Orleans e Bragança. Not in a million of years!

People always call him Prince Luiz, most often with his full style of His Imperial and Royal Highness. Even the Government, which normally doesn't call him Prince, call him using the prefix Dom.

Cory · #**280** 05-20-2014, 02:08 PM

HM the King gave titles to his son in law and to his grandson wanting to change the Line of Succession of the Constitution of 1923. The reality is that only the Parliament can change the Line of Succession and recognize these titles. Nicholas De Roumanie Medforth-Mills was not born as a Prince like HSH Prince Alexander of Hohenzollern and, according to the Constitution of 1923 (never legally abolished), he can have no title while HSH Prince Alexander could inherit the Throne.