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10-11-2016, 10:01 AM
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Hi, Moonmaiden. Just a little bit of advice. Before you laugh at other people's words you should check your facts. That way your mockery will have some sense.
You've been already been told about the Netherlands. I can tell you about Spain
-In 1970 7.2 weddings per every 1.000 people were celebrated. In 2000 there were only 5.42 and in 2015 there were only 3.3.
-In 2015 52% of the couples who'd been living together for more than 10 years were not married. If you take into account that most older people are married, it is obvious that most young people are not.
And even more interesting: 73% of the children born in 2015 were born from couples who were not married. Only 27% of children were born from married couples.
I have no data for France, but I'm sure that if you check the web you'll find that Charlotte situation is the norm between people around 30.
I don't know who much money are american wedding planners are expecting to earn next year, but you should take into account that what happens in your country is not an universal rule and in western Europe most young people don't get married.
And, now, about Charlotte. I don't know if this is truth or not, but there is a news piece that explains why she's left Rome.
Apparently she's not broken up with Lamberto but she's been forced to return to Paris because of custody issues with Gad. Raphael must go to school in France so that his father can be with him aswell.
Dos mudanzas en 3 meses: Carlota Casiraghi deja Roma (y a Sanfelice) y vuelve a París. Noticias de Casas Reales
No idea whether these are real facts or just speculation. On the one hand it makes sense, when you are battling for custody you can move permanently to another country without the consent of both parents, but on the other hand, it seems weird since Gad spends most of his time in the USA-
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You posted " nobody gets married anymore?" ...did you not? You didn't initially say marriage rates are lower in the Netherlands, in Spain, Western Europe etc. You didn't initially simply post that more and more children are born out of wedlock, which would which been more accurate not to mention would have made more sense.. 
You stated that nobody gets married anymore, which is as patently ridiculous as it is untrue.
Obviously countless millions of people around the world ARE still getting married, they always have and they always will. Even in Western Europe.
I am not the one guilty not having my facts straight here.
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10-11-2016, 11:41 AM
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I do not believe this about Gad obliging Charlotte return in France with Raphael. There is a perfect French School in Rome and Fiumicino is connecting Rome to the whole world, Gad could attend them at any moment. He is not living in Europe, if tomorrow he goes to Australia he cannot oblige them to move. Gad and Charlotte are even nor married and Charlotte has the full custody and she is free to go live everywhere it is safe for her child. Which Court in the world would decide that Italy is prohibited to live for a young boy with his wealthy mother ? All this is just press stupidities in order to create articles.
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You're probably right. It seems very weird that Gad is demanding that the kid remains in France while he is living in another continent. It seems absurd and selfish.
But I don't know why you say that Charlotte has full costudy (we have not the slightlest idea about that) or why you talk about her and Gad not being married. Marriage or not marriage it doesn't make any difference at all for a child custody. Both parents have exactly the same rights that a married couple.
Althought I can't see Gad asking for custody himself... I think he is more happy having the kid living with Charlotte and being a visiting parent.
That said, the staying in France thing could have sense if they are battling over custody and the arrangements are not still settled. If Charlotte doesn't allow Gad to take the child with him to the USA (as was reported by the press), Gad has the same rights that she has. He may retaliate by not allowing her to take the child abroad and forcethis way a better custody arrangement for himself.
But of course it could all be speculation of the press and she's simply broken up with Lamberto.
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10-11-2016, 12:34 PM
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@Paranoia. It is quite sure that Charlotte has full custody, of course Gad should have a unlimited visit right. Nevertheless, it is almost sure that for such a small child mother has the custody, it is extremely rare that mother has not the custody, and it happens in cases of mothers alcoholic or drug addicted or unable to take care of kids.
And do not forget one think. Charlotte is not a French citizen. She is a Monaco citizen, and I'm not so sure if in Monaco parental rights in unmarried couples are the same than for married. I do not know if Raphael has double citizenship or only Monaco, maybe double citizenship France/Monaco are not compatible. And I do not know if Gad is also French or only Moroccan.
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10-11-2016, 01:18 PM
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as far i know, Monaco citizens are not allowed to have double citizenship, but i'm not 100% sure of that.
As for Gad and Charlotte fighting for the custody, the only scenario i can think is that Gad can claim that as Charlotte doesn't have a fixed place, there's no reason for the child to stay with her, since he has the same lifestyle and it can provide the same quality of life. Charlotte then decided to return and settle near Paris, a common place to both. However, I find this very unlikely and no sense.
As for people complaining that she's not married, if her relationships don't work, why should she do that? Taking into account the pattern of her past relationships , maybe she's fickle and knows that marriage is not the best option for her, or never felt comfortable enough to marry any of her partners. A relationship is much more than marriage and a party. I don't mean it's not important, but not everyone has it as priority.
About her children, Charlotte is an adult in the early 30s. She is not a reckless teenager who became pregnant. So if she is really pregnant, maybe she wanted to give a brother Rafael and found that Lamberto was an appropriate person. Even if the relationship is over, even if they are not together, he may possibly be a good father to her future son.
On the other hand, if she's single again, Charlotte should calm down and rethink her priorities. A woman doesn't need to be in a relationship to be complete. But if she wants that and neither of her relationships lasts, while her brothers and friends are married, maybe she should chose her partners more carefully or try fulfillment in others areas like a serious job or occupation.
The issue with her is not necessarily that she's not married or can't have any solid relationship, but she is jump from partner to partner, from job to job, and is doing nothing really significant with her life. As others said, she could have the world in her feet, but she seems like a teenager with no direction in life. Anyway, it seems that for her being beautiful and privileged, people had too high expectations towards Charlotte but in the end she's just an average woman living her life. She has no title, not in the direct line and will probably will never rule Monaco, so Charlotte can live her life as she desires.
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10-11-2016, 01:32 PM
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10-11-2016, 02:35 PM
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I think Gad is really lucky that he has a son with Charlotte and his son can have access to interesting things/places, because of its background. Plus, very good education and connections.
And as far as i know from the media, he had not the full custody of his first child either.
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10-11-2016, 05:55 PM
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Maybe they didn t go to court yet or don y plan to as they are not requiered to do that. And they together decided that the child should stay with Charlotte but he has to live in France si that Gad or his parents can see him one weekend every two weeks or whenever they want like many child in France from not married parents (if the parents were married and then divorce, the court decide).
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10-13-2016, 10:04 AM
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10-13-2016, 01:47 PM
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Gad Elmaleh (45 ) has a new girlfriend Elisa Meliani, a topmodel (Aubade) who is 26 years old.
He is performing in Belgium the 21, 22,23 at Forest National with Kev Adams
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10-13-2016, 01:56 PM
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So Gad likes 'em young!  
Ironically Alex Dellal(Charlotte's other ex-boyfriend) is also married to a woman named Elisa(Sednaoui) who is a top model.
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10-14-2016, 06:50 AM
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On October 13 Charlotte inaugurated the second edition of the Philosophical Meeting in Monaco. The first workshop, on the theme of love, will feature philosophers Nicolas Grimaldi and Cynthia Fleury.
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10-14-2016, 09:01 AM
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magazine scan Voici charlotte casiraghi
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10-14-2016, 10:41 AM
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What's the resume of this article? Could you, please,priyanka, gdive us a summary? Is it written the reason for "la rupture" ?
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10-14-2016, 01:58 PM
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As reported by the French gossip site Voici, between Charlotte and the Italian filmmaker would end. "Eventually she left the Rome apartment where they had settled and returned to live in France with Raphael, her baby," it said on For several weeks the Italian gossip magazines speculate a possible break of the super couple. But beware: not all are convinced that between Charlotte Casiraghi and Lamberto is over! Some claim that her flight to France is only for practical reasons. Charlotte would be pregnant with the director and so she had decided to live this moment so important in his life next to family. If so, all would make sense. Sources close to the couple have assured (at least until a few months ago), that the agreement between the two is strong. But to know the truth ... we have to wait.
Excuse my english.
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10-15-2016, 02:14 PM
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Octubre 15th, 2016 charlotte casiraghi encontres philosophiques
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10-15-2016, 03:15 PM
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The pics were taken on October 13, not today - see my post above with more pics of the event 
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Charlotte and Thierry Rozier at the airport of Paris on October 16. According to the caption they returned from a horse show weekend in the south of France.
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