The Royal Household, Courtiers, Advisers and Attendants 1: Ending Sep 2022


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Avicenna said:
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or maybe she simply wants to enjoy as much time with her husband as possible rather than being busy. Remember the trouble he had during the last years?
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Since then, Philip hasn't been getting any younger either. I also would imagine that should something happen to Philip, HM will perhaps go into a period of mourning and with Charles able to step in for her as her representative in most cases, she can take that time and feel at ease that everything is under control.

I don't see HM mourning as long as Queen Victoria did but she definitely should be able to mourn in peace for a while anyways.
 
Interesting points, I agree about the media placing too much importance on themselves, if the Private Offices of HM and Charles were merging that really would mean something!
It also suggests HM is to visit Rome as well as France, maybe making up for the Rome visit she missed last year when she was ill?
 
Whoever wrote this piece for the Vanity Fair obviously ignored the initial press reports that said exactly this - that all three press offices would be joined into one.
 
Charles has good reason for wanting to seem more involved in the monarch’s day-to-day life: the notion among some subjects that the crown should skip a generation next time, going to Prince William, now 31.
Allowed to flourish, this idea would sour the eventual succession of Charles, our longest-serving heir apparent.
For many, William and Kate are a more exciting prospect than Charles and Camilla. They come with less ‘baggage’ and the promise of a longer reign.
This isn’t going to happen, though. God willing, Charles will succeed his mother. But his reign would be ruined if there was a public clamour for William and Kate.
There’s less chance of this happening if he is seen to be shadowing the Queen, taking on her more gruelling engagements, his key staff merging with those of HM. Often, in the past, they have seemed at odds.

The delicacy of Charles’s position arises from two factors. His historically long spell as heir apparent — and the dissolution of his first marriage, to Diana Spencer.
Some still believe he should be denied the throne because he married his mistress.
Those who think this feel that having to relinquish it to his elder son by Diana would be poetic justice.
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PETER MCKAY: Prince Charles and a royal takeover by stealth | Mail Online
 
Why do you keep posting articles that paint Charles in a bad light and heep praise on the Cambridges? It adds little to the discussion.
 
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Gordon Rayner ‏@gordonrayner 25m
Prince Charles's communications secretary Sally Osman confirmed as Director of Royal Communications, heading up integrated team at Buck Pal

Rebecca English ‏@RE_DailyMail 4h
New unified Buckingham Palace press office will be in operation from Monday morning led by Sally Osman as Director of Royal Communications

Rebecca English ‏@RE_DailyMail 4h
Sally formerly headed up Prince Charles's PR team but Queen will still have her own Communications Secretary in James Roscoe.

Rebecca English ‏@RE_DailyMail 4h
Kristina Kyriacou will remain at Clarence House as Communications Secretary for Charles and Camilla.....

Rebecca English ‏@RE_DailyMail 4h
William, Kate & Harry will also have their own Communications Secretary in exBP staffer Ed Perkins but their PR operation will be run by BP

Rebecca English ‏@RE_DailyMail 4h
New PR operation might seem insignificant and there are certainly attempts to play it down, but trust me, it's a sign of times a changing
 
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Martin ‏@MartinRoyalUK 7h
Looks like the name ‘Press Secretary’ has been abolished in the Royal Household now. All are styled as ‘Communications Secretaries’.
 
Dman said:
Martin ‏@MartinRoyalUK 7h
Looks like the name ‘Press Secretary’ has been abolished in the Royal Household now. All are styled as ‘Communications Secretaries’.
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Actually this makes sense to me. They not only have to consider the press but also other media such as global communications such as television and social media such as Twitter. Its kind of hard to imagine that when the Queen was a young girl, the only means of communication for the public was the press, radio broadcasts and newsreels shown in movie theaters. We live in an age of instant information.
 
It was not until September of 1981 that ladies-in-waiting were appointed to Diana, Princess of Wales. The ladies-in-waiting were Lavinia Baring, Hazel West, and Anne Beckwith Smith.
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Nona Kerr was a lady-in-waiting to Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven (Prince Philip's grandmother).
Prince Philip took to calling Nona Kerr Mrs. Good. :wave:
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Prince Philip was given a valet, John Dean.
John Dean had been the butler of Lord Louis Mountbatten (Uncle Dickie).
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Lord Rupert Nevill had been a Private Secretary for Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh from 1976 to 1982.
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Arthur Bigge, 1st Baron Stamfordham (1849-1931) was the Private Secretary to Queen Victoria from 1895 to 1901.
Lord Stamfordham was the Private Secretary to King George V from 1910 to 1931.
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Peter Hunt ‏@BBCPeterHunt 49m
Cmdr Peter Loughborough --who runs royal security -- is to retire from the police and become Master of the Household to Charles and Camilla

Royal Central ‏@RoyalCentral 42m
Head of Royalty protection since 2003, he also happens to be the Earl of Rosslyn - he uses ‘Loughborough’ as surname from his lesser title.
 
How Angela Kelly rose to be the Queen's right-hand woman | Mail Online

At Windsor Castle, where Her Majesty the Queen often spends her weekends, staff have long been accustomed to hearing her say that she is ‘stepping out for a bit’.

The phrase is royal shorthand, signifying that the monarch is popping round for a cup of Darjeeling and a natter at the nearby grace-and-favour home of Angela Kelly, a woman who officially holds the rather grand title of Personal Assistant, Advisor and Curator to the Queen (Jewellery, Insignia and Wardrobe).

Privately, however, 62-year-old divorcee Mrs Kelly is far more than that — as the Queen’s private visits to her cosy home in the grounds adjoining Windsor Castle illustrate.

Little is publicly known about the woman who has served the Queen for so long.

But the Mail can now reveal the astonishing background of Mrs Kelly and the high price she appears to have been prepared to pay for her success.
 
Prince Charles won't be king-in-waiting and job share with Queen so he can remain outspoken:
"Charles, who this week compared *President Putin to Hitler, is no longer paying Sally Osman, who in January became head of a Buckingham Palace team set up to make him king in waiting.

But Charles, 65, has sidelined ex-BBC public relations chief Ms Osman, leaving the shadow king masterplan “in tatters” and causing “chaos” at the Palace."
Prince Charles won't be king-in-waiting and job share with Queen so he can remain outspoken - Mirror Online

Now why would Charles do something like this?
 
Dman said:
Prince Charles won't be king-in-waiting and job share with Queen so he can remain outspoken:
"Charles, who this week compared *President Putin to Hitler, is no longer paying Sally Osman, who in January became head of a Buckingham Palace team set up to make him king in waiting.

But Charles, 65, has sidelined ex-BBC public relations chief Ms Osman, leaving the shadow king masterplan “in tatters” and causing “chaos” at the Palace."
Prince Charles won't be king-in-waiting and job share with Queen so he can remain outspoken - Mirror Online

Now why would Charles do something like this?
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So I guess the Mirror doesn't realize that Charles has been "king-in-waiting" for 62 years? :ROFLMAO:

It is interesting that the article does point out that Ms. Osman is now being paid from the Sovereign Grant, which is where all of HM's staff is paid from. Since it is a combined Press Office, and set up at Buckingham Palace, wouldn't it make sense that her compensation come from The Sovereign Grant? But maybe articles like this aren't supposed to make sense.
 
:previous: Oh dear. It looks very much as if the 'Mirror's' reporters went to the same school of logic as those of the Daily Mail and they both achieved a failing grade. :D :whistling:
 
Dman said:
Prince Charles won't be king-in-waiting and job share with Queen so he can remain outspoken:
"Charles, who this week compared *President Putin to Hitler, is no longer paying Sally Osman, who in January became head of a Buckingham Palace team set up to make him king in waiting.

But Charles, 65, has sidelined ex-BBC public relations chief Ms Osman, leaving the shadow king masterplan “in tatters” and causing “chaos” at the Palace."
Prince Charles won't be king-in-waiting and job share with Queen so he can remain outspoken - Mirror Online

Now why would Charles do something like this?
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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:He is not the only one who thinks like that, when this problem started in the Crimea my first thought was exactly the same, "Putin is being a Hitler" and if the world doesn't watch out, there will be a war to end all of mankind. This man is hungry for Power, and he will try anything to get it and he is doing just what he wants regardless of what any other country thinks. His complaining of Prince Charles is because Prince Charles hit the nail on the head, and Putin does not expect anyone to react to what he is doing. There is no stopping Putin now that he has started so just watch for the next round of fire from him and see! This view I have is because of all the darn history books that I read, some men are just war mongers and want power at the cost of anything that gets in their way. Just look at what gwb did to America with his lies in regards to Iraq, we are still there and suffering the lives of many young men and women. We need more *women* in control of this world, they don't want wars, they have a better understanding of what a war cost in the terms of lives and children. Syria, what's his name, is another example of a war monger, look at what he is doing to his own people, a shame that this is still the way the world works in today's day and age!
 
Dman said:
Prince Charles won't be king-in-waiting and job share with Queen so he can remain outspoken:
"Charles, who this week compared *President Putin to Hitler, is no longer paying Sally Osman, who in January became head of a Buckingham Palace team set up to make him king in waiting.

But Charles, 65, has sidelined ex-BBC public relations chief Ms Osman, leaving the shadow king masterplan “in tatters” and causing “chaos” at the Palace."
Prince Charles won't be king-in-waiting and job share with Queen so he can remain outspoken - Mirror Online

Now why would Charles do something like this?
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Looks like there have been a slew of complaints arriving in the mailboxes of the Mirror from the Angry Birds that need more amusing liners for their bird cages eh? We all know how important it is to read stuff like this while we go about our "business" don't we? ;)

They make it sound as Charles plotted and schemed of ways to rearrange a whole lot of things just so he could plot and scheme of what he would say off the cuff to someone in the crowd as he toured Canada. Oh wait!! The Mirror's follow up story most likely will be how he "planted" the opportunity to be outspoken in the crowd. Never mind.
 
Royal Central @RoyalCentral · 2h
The Queen has appointed a new physician - Professor Huw Thomas - a specialist in gastroenterology, from St Mary's Hospital.
 
Dman said:
Royal Central @RoyalCentral · 2h
The Queen has appointed a new physician - Professor Huw Thomas - a specialist in gastroenterology, from St Mary's Hospital.
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Do you have any idea what this means?
 
GrammaSueSue said:
Do you have any idea what this means?
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Could mean absolutely nothing except she likes this doctor. Or it could also be in recognition that as we age we all have more issues with our digestion systems.
 
LauraS3514 said:
Could mean absolutely nothing except she likes this doctor. Or it could also be in recognition that as we age we all have more issues with our digestion systems.
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Actually my thought was this has more to do w/Phillip's health. Remember, that exploratory surgery he had last Summer was Abdominal Exploratory Surgery. Although we never were told just exactly why it was performed, knowing something was going on in that area *and* this Doctor is a Gastroenterologist...It just has my instincts pinging this new appt is more due to Phillip than HM.

All JMO of course.


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HM was in the hospital March 2013 overnight for "assessment of symptoms of gastroenteritis". A number of engagements were cancelled as a result.
 
Tiggersk8 said:
Actually my thought was this has more to do w/Phillip's health. Remember, that exploratory surgery he had last Summer was Abdominal Exploratory Surgery. Although we never were told just exactly why it was performed, knowing something was going on in that area *and* this Doctor is a Gastroenterologist...It just has my instincts pinging this new appt is more due to Phillip than HM.

All JMO of course.


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That was what I was referring to with my "as we age we all have more issues with our digestion systems" statement. :)
 
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