The House of Orange-Nassau in the Past

[Josefine]

I would love to have some info of past royals of the Netherlands

 

[Danjel]

Hey Josefine,

Here a start with Queen Wilhelmina, posted it below, but I''m not sure if you've seen it.......

At the moment I'm writing an essay about Queen Emma, hope to be able to finish it in 2 weeks...

greetz
Danjel

 

[Alexandria]

Do we have any pictures of these past Dutch queens?

I know we have a thread on Queen Wilhelmina: http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1201&page=1.

How about some information and pictures about the others though?

 

[Marengo]

Not a Queen, but one of the most important women (THE most important woman some say) in the dynasty: Princess Amalia of Orange, nee Countess of Solms-Braunfels. Born on 31 august 1602 (same date as Queen Wilhelmina, no coincidence there), died 8 september 1675. Henri M. had a rather eloquent post about her on the Benelux Royals MB:

Countess Amalia was the daughter of Johann-Albrecht I Count of Solms-Braunfels and Agnes Countess zu Sayn-Wittgenstein.

Countess Amalia became a lady-in-waiting to Elizabeth Stuart, Princess of Scotland who married Friedrich V Kurfürst of the Pfalz (Elector Palatinate), King of Bohemia. This Elizabeth is the mother to Electress Sophia of Hannover, to whom all present direct descendants to the British throne are related.
Friedrich V was a full nephew to Amalia's later husband Frederik Hendrik of Nassau, Prince of Orange via his mother Louise Juliana of Nassau, a halfsister to Frederik Hendrik.
In 1619, Friedrich V was offered and accepted the crown of Bohemia, but his rule was brief, and Elizabeth Stuart became known as the "Winter Queen". She was also sometimes called "Queen of Hearts" because of her popularity. The couple and their children were given refuge in The Hague by their uncle Maurits of Nassau, Prince of Orange.
This old Prince Maurits was dying and forced his younger halfbrother Prince Frederik Hendrik to seek a lady for a proper marriage, on the threat of being disinherited, making his bastard sons general heir to the immense Orange-Nassau fortune.
Prince Frederik Hendrik rememered the pretty lady-in-waiting of his niece-in-law Elizabeth Stuart and rushed to the Palace of Bohemia in The Hague. He immediately proposed to Countess Amalia. The Countess, herself from exiled and impoverished nobility and having not a single centime of dowry realized that this was the chance of her life: she hesistated no moment and agreed.
Only one week after the totally unexpected proposal Frederik Hendrik of Nassau, Prince of Orange married in a most sober ceremony with Amalia Countess of Solms-Braunfels. When she was dressed up with her bridal toilet, Countess Amalia folded her hands and said: 'Quid Reddam Domino?' ('What shall I render to the Lord?') Suddenly she, an impovershed noble, found herself married to one of the most wealthy Princes of her era...

an article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalia_of_Solms-Braunfels

bigger article in dutch: http://www.koningkeizerrijken.info/amalia-van-solms.htm

and an even larger one: http://www.inghist.nl/Onderzoek/Projecten/DVN/lemmata/data/AmaliaVanSolms

 

[Marengo]

some paintings:

 

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By Van Dyck:

 

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[Marengo]

After her husbands death, the angel is called 'hope'. She certainly had an important role after her husbands death. As her son died quickly as well she had to battle with the states- general and with her daughter-in-law, the snobish Mary Stuart about the education of Stadholder Willem III (future king of GB).

 

[Marengo]

With some of her daughters. She married the eldest one of to the Elector of Brandenburhg (Poor Louise-Henriette was in tears when she married). She got 9 children:
- Stadholder Willem II (1626-1650)
- Princess Louise-Henriette (1627-1667)
- Princess Henriette-Amalia (1628)
- Prince Elisabeth (1630)
- Princess Isabella-Charlotte (1632-1642)
- Princess Albertine-Agnes (1634-1696)
- Princess Henriette-Catharina 1637-1708)
- Prince Hendrik-Lodewijk (1639)
- Princess Maria (1642-1688)

 

[Marengo]

A poem by the most famous poet of The Netherlands, Joost van den Vondel (from www.dbnl.nl):

Op de beeldenis der doorluchtighste en hooghgebore Vorstinne Amelia,
Princesse van Orangie, &c. * * *

Had Paris dees belonckt in 't midden van Godinnen: Vs. 1 Had hem AMELIA beschenen met een' blick: Hy hadse schoonst geroemt: nu schonck haer Frederick D'orangienappel, als aen d'eere der Vorstinnen. vs. 4 Anders. Dees' Venus kan den Vorst met minnevlam verwarmen: Wanneer hy in 't albast, en 't sneeu smelt van haere armen: vs. 2 Als hy verslingert druckt dat purper en korael, En met sijne ooren vangt haere honighsoete tael. Anders. In sterflijck aenschijn blinckt onsterffelijcke schoonheyd, Die Frederick den Held als in triomf ten toon leyd. vs. 2 Dus stroockt Amelia des grooten veldheers borst. vs. 3 Orangie uyt haren schoot verwacht den jongen Vorst. Anders. Dit is de Morgenstar, die, eer 't begint te daegen, Den Hemel overlicht van FREDRICX ledekant: Hy sou om dese Heleen thien jaren wapens draegen, vs. 3 Of troosten sich een slagh op Vlaendrens bloedigh strand. vs. 4 * Van 1625. Afgedrukt volgens de tekst in Begroetenis (zie blz. 508) de laatste bladzij.
Amalia van Solms, echtgenote van Frederik Hendrik, zie blz. 514, vs. 166; Vondel schrijft Amelia naar 't Frans-Nederl. Amelie.
Randschrift van de prent: Quid reddam Domino?: Wat zal ik de Heer wedergeven.
Vs. 1 Paris moest verklaren wie onder de godinnen de schoonste was; zie Hierusalem Verwoest, Aen den Leser r. 249-251, blz. 94.
vs. 4 d'eere: de voortreffelikste.
vs. 2 't albast, en 't sneeu: 't sneeuwwitte albast (zie blz. 190 op vs. 1820).
vs. 2 ten toon leyd: rondvoert (zij heeft Frederik Hendrik overwonnen door haar schoonheid, en voert hem als 't ware mee op haar zegetocht).
vs. 3 stroockt: streelt.
vs. 3 Heleen: Hélena, door Paris geschaakt; wat de oorzaak werd van de tienjarige Trojaanse oorlog.
vs. 4 troosten sich: zich getroosten 'n slag als b.v. die van Nieuwpoort.

 

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Princess Amalia by Rembrandt:

Now, how did Maxima come up with this dress? (pic:Seeger)

 

[Marengo]

Count Walram I of Laurenburg and Nassau
ca. 1146-1198

Count Hendrik II (the Rich) of Nassau, 1180-1251
x 1221 Duchess Machteld of Gelre
from this marriage:

A. Count Walram II of Nassau, 1220-1276
from this marriage:

...1. Count Adolf of Nassau, Roman King 1292-1298
......from this marriage:

.........a. Count Gerlach of Nassau, 1284-1361
.............from this marriage:

................i Count Adolf of Nassau-Wiesbaden, 1307-1370
....................extinct 1605.

................ii Count Johan I of Nassau-Weilburg, 1309-1371 (NB. the Grand Dukes of Luxembourg descend from this line)

B. Count Jan of Nassau, bisshop of Utrecht 1267-1288

C. Count Otto I of Nassau, -1289 (?)
from this marriage:

...1 Count Hendrik I of Nassau, -1343
......from this marriage:

..........a Count Otto II of Vianden, -1350 x Countess Adelheid of Vianden
............from this marriage:

................i CountJohan I of Nassau-Dillenburg, 1339-1416
.................from this marriage:

......................I Count Adolf of Nassau, -1420 x Countess Judith of Dietz

.....................II Count Johan II of Nassau, -1443

.....................III Count Johan III of Nassau, -1430

.....................IV Count Engelbert I of Nassau, 1370-1442 Count Nassau-Dietz and Vianden
.........................x 1403 Countess Johanna of Polanen 1392-1445 Lady of Breda and De Leck
.........................from this marriage:

..............................A Count Hendrik II of Nassau, 1414-1451

..............................B Count Johan IV of Nassau-Dietz, 1410-1475 x 1440 Maria of
.................................Loon-Heinsberg, 1424-1502
.................................from this marriage:

.......................................1 Count Engelbert II of Nassau, baron of Breda 1451-1504

.......................................2 Count Johan V of Nassau-Dietz, 1455-1516

 

[Marengo]

Some paintings/ sketches:

Count Hendrik III of Nassau-Breda:

The tomb of Engelbrecht II and Johanna of Polanen, from the Grote Kerk in Breda:

Again, Engelbrecht II and Johanna:

 

[PreDoc]

When I was younger I watched an old wartime movie which had a scene with Queen Wilhelmina speaking to someone while a couple were in a distant building with the window open. I believe the Queen was in exile somewhere in the UK. As the pair loudly enjoyed each others' company the Queen peered around the person she was speaking with, and instead of being horrified, her attitude seemed to be "oh, I thought that's what they were doing". The actress who played the Queen did it with such nonchalance that I roared with laughter and then tried to read everything I could about Wilhelmina. If this story sounds familiar to anyone would mind letting me know the title of the movie ... for the life of me I can't remember it!

 

[Marengo]

<A HREF=""" NDa?>Count Johan V of Nassau-Dietz, 1455-1516 x 1482 Countess Elisabeth of Hessen, 1466-1523
from this marriage:

A Count Hendrik III of Nassau, 1483-1538 x (2) 1515 Claudia van Chalon and Orange, 1498-1521
from this marriage:

...1 Prince René I of Chalon and Orange, 1519-1544 x 1538 Anna van Lotharingen (without issue)

B Count Willem the Rich, of Nassau 1487-1559 x (1) Countess Walburga of Egmond (one daughter from this marriage).
x (2) Juliana van Stolberg-Wenigerode, 1506-1580
11 children, among whom:

...1 Count WILLEM I (The Silent) of Nassau, Prince of Orange, Dillenburg, .......24.04.1533 - Delft, 10.07.1584 x (1) Buren, 08.07.1551 Anna
.......of Egmond, Countess of Buren and Leerdam * Grave, 03.1533 + Breda
.......24.03.1558 (3 children from this marriage, see below).
.......x (2) Princess Anna of Saxony (5 children form this marriage, see
.......below)
.......x (3) Princess Charlotte of Bourbon-Montpensier 1546-Antwerp
.......05.05.1582 (6 children, see below)
.......x (4) Countess Louise de Coligny Chatillon-sur-Loing 11.23.1555-.......Fontainebleu 11.13.1620 (one child, see below)

.........1_I Countess Maria of Nassau, Breda 11.22.1553-1555
.........1_II Prince Philip-Willem I of Orange, Buren 12.19.1554-Brussels
...............02.20.1618, x Princess Eleonore of Bourbon-Conde (no children)
.........1_III Countess Maria of Nassau, Breda 02.07.1556- Buren 10.10.1616
................x 02.07.1595 Count Philip of Hohenlohe-Neuenstein 1550-1606
.........2_I Countess Anna of Nassau 1562-1562
.........2_II Countess Anna of Nassau Breda 11.05.1563-Franeker 06.13.1588
...............x 1587 Count Willem-Lodewijk of Nassau-Dillenburg, Dillenburg
...............05.13.1565-06.13.1620 (no children)
.........2_III Count Maurits of Nassau, Brussels 12.18.1564-Breda 12.08.1566
.........2_IV Prince Maurits of Orange 11.14.1567-04.23.1625
.........2_V Countess Emilia of Nassau Cologne 04.10.1569-Geneva 03.16.1629
...............x 1596 Prince Emmanuel of Portugal (The Bastard Prince)
.........3_I Countess Louise-Juliana of Nassau, Delft 03.31.1576-Konigsberg
..............03.15.1644, x Count Frederik IV of the Paltz-Zweibrucken 1574-
..............1610
.........3_II Countess Elisabeth of Nassau, Middelburg, 04.26.1577-Sedan
...............11.03.1642, x 1595 Henri Tour d'Auvergne, Duke de Bouillon
.........3_III Countess Catharina-Belgica of Nassau, Antwerp, 07.03.1578-
.................Hanau, 04.12.1648, x 1596 Count Philip-Ludwig of Hanau
.........3_IV Countess Charlotte-Flandrina of Nassau, Antwerp, 08.18.1579-
................Poitiers 04.16.1640
.........3_V Countess Charlotte-Brabantina of Nassau, Antwerp 11.17.1580-
...............1631, x 1598 Claude de la Tremouille, Duke of Thouars 1566-1604
.........3_VI Countess Emilia Secunda Antwerpiana, Antwerp 12.09.1581-
................Landsberg 11.28.1657, x Fredrich-Casimir of Zweibrucken1585-
................1645
.........4_I Prince Frederik-Hendrik I of Orange, Delft 01.29.1584-The Hague
..............03.14.1647, x 1625 Countess Amalia of Solms-Braunfels, Braunfels
..............08.31.1602-The Hague 11.08.1675 (9 children, in next overview)

 

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Some painting...

Count Rene of Nassau-Breda, Prince of Chalon and Orange:

His uncle Willem the Rich (Rich in children that is, he had 15 legitimate children)

His wife, Juliana of Stolberg:

 

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Willem I of Orange, aka Willem the Silent, aka father of the fatherland:

three drawings of his murder:

 

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His wives

Anna van Egmond:

Anna of Saxony:

Charlotte of Bourbon:

Louise de Coligny:

 

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Prince Philip-Willem of Orange, eldest son of Willem I:

Philips-Willem on his deathbed:

his wife, princess Eleonora of Bourbon-Conde, niece of the french King.

 

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Countess Maria of Nassau, married to the Prince of Hohenlohe-Neuenstein (against the wishes of her brother, stadholder Maurits)

 

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Countess Anna:

 

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Prince Maurits of Orange:

Maurits and his brother Frederik-Henry on the beach of Scheveningen (they would be so shocked if they could see it today):

 

[princess olga]

Aha! So that's perhaps why Constantijn chose 'Leonore' as the name for his latest daughter: the name runs in the family!

Great thread Marengo!
Especially Amalia van Solms, she is so pretty in a girl-next-door kind of way, terrific!

and the painting of a young Willem van Oranje....he was soooo handsome!

 

[Marengo]

I wish he had named his daughter after Eleonore, but to be honest, I don't have a lot of faith in the historical affection of the present royals, not ieven in that of 'historian' Willem-Alexander.

But Constantijn might be different, he reintroduced 'Casimir' as well

I am planning to make this a HUGE thread with pictures and paintings of ALL the royals, in chronological order, they are already are in my photobucket! After that I hope to provide some information about the royals... (wikipedia is my friend, though I need to translate it).

PS, I agree, Willem I was very handsome....

 

[Marengo]

Princess Emilia (the first one):

Her husband, Emmanual 'the bastard' of Portugal:

 

[Maxie]

I am planning to make this a HUGE thread with pictures and paintings of ALL the royals, in chronological order, they are already are in my photobucket!

Please do! I'm enjoying this thread already so much! Keep up the good work, Marengo. Lovely to see all this historic kings, queens, stadholders and do I know who!

 

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Countess Louise-Juliana:

 

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Countess Elisabeth:

 

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Countess Catharina-Belgica: