Prince Andrew, Duke of York Current Events 7: February 2015

[muriel]

Originally Posted by padams2359

Giving up the lease at some point could have been part of paying his restitution. When the chalet was put up for sale I said he was getting ready to settle and many on here said that would never happen. Edward and Sophie manage to get by without associating with the scum of the earth. I don’t see him living out his days at RL once his mother is gone. I am sure many who blindly support him, even for the scumbag he is, will disagree.

I actually do not see an issue with him living out his days at Royal Lodge. He holds the lease, and that was paid for on commercial terms.

That said, it may well be that, in time, Andrew may choose to down size. RL must be an expensive house to run, and with only a finite some of money, if he is sensible, he will think about where he may choose to live.

I do not know what the terms might be for Andrew to be able to exit the lease on Royal Lodge, and get his money back for he unexpired portion of the lease. It is not a house that can easily be let, given its proximity to Windsor.

I am also not sure a solution can be found within the royal family for someone to take the house on. The only ones who could possibly afford to are Charles and William, and I can't see either of them needing the house

[Denville]

Originally Posted by muriel

I actually do not see an issue with him living out his days at Royal Lodge. He holds the lease, and that was paid for on commercial terms.

That said, it may well be that, in time, Andrew may choose to down size. RL must be an expensive house to run, and with only a finite some of money, if he is sensible, he will think about where he may choose to live.

I do not know what the terms might be for Andrew to be able to exit the lease on Royal Lodge, and get his money back for he unexpired portion of the lease. It is not a house that can easily be let, given its proximity to Windsor.

I am also not sure a solution can be found within the royal family for someone to take the house on. The only ones who could possibly afford to are Charles and William, and I can't see either of them needing the house

well there is still Fergie, who needs a place to live.. or Andrew might share with one of his daughters adn thier family... Im sure the place is big enough to accommodate him, Sarah and a small family....

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Denville

well there is still Fergie, who needs a place to live.. or Andrew might share with one of his daughters adn thier family... Im sure the place is big enough to accommodate him, Sarah and a small family....

I know the place is big enopugh to accomodate Andrew, Sarah and one of the girls and their families, but is Andrew's wallet big enough to continue to run a house as large as that? The staffing bill in itself must be well into six-figures.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by muriel

I know the place is big enopugh to accomodate Andrew, Sarah and one of the girls and their families, but is Andrew's wallet big enough to continue to run a house as large as that? The staffing bill in itself must be well into six-figures.

Since the girls have rich husbands, if they did elect to share quarters with Andrew, they'd share the bills.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Denville

Since the girls have rich husbands, if they did elect to share quarters with Andrew, they'd share the bills.

I do not think the husband's of the girls are particularly rich. I think Edo has made some money, but I suspect he will need to use it to invest in his business.

I would be surprised if Edo was keen to spending his hard earned money on keeping his in-laws in the champagne.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by muriel

I do not think the husband's of the girls are particularly rich. I think Edo has made some money, but I suspect he will need to use it to invest in his business.

I would be surprised if Edo was keen to spending his hard earned money on keeping his in-laws in the champagne.

I presume he has a home somwhere and living in Royal Lodge would spare him the expenses of that home...

[tommy100]

I don't find him staying at Royal Lodge an issue as he has, seemingly, got the lease in a fair way and paid what is expected so it isn't like the public are missing out on it going for free to him. TBH, due to its location so close to Windsor Castle and with a chapel the Queen's use in its front garden it can't necessarily be let to just anybody, Andrew taking it on (and not on a "peppercorn rent") was the best deal at the time.
If he really wanted to write his memoirs then as much as I personally would hate it, I don't see how he could be stopped. Is it the right thing to do, IMO no. He is effectively in the same boat as another royal releasing memoirs this year. The real issue would be if there is any commercial interest in his memoirs and if any publisher would want to be the ones to publish it and if there would be any market to buy it. That said, plenty of criminals, less than desirable people and those who have been hugely controversial have had memoirs released.
My issue will always be him going anywhere near "official service" as a working member of the RF. That IMO even extends a far as church services, traditional royal events such as the races and Christmas and for sure any Jubilee appearances (I don't have an issue with him at his father's memorial service - though could have done without the entrance with HM). I would love him to head off to Balmoral and be out of sight, and away from being able to worm his way around his mother but that is a personal wish not one I can say he "must" do.

[eya]

Duke Of York heads out for an early morning final ride in Windsor today 6 May

https://www.rexfeatures.com/livefeed...ride,_windsor?

[Roderick]

Originally Posted by tommy100

I don't find him staying at Royal Lodge an issue as he has, seemingly, got the lease in a fair way and paid what is expected so it isn't like the public are missing out on it going for free to him. TBH, due to its location so close to Windsor Castle and with a chapel the Queen's use in its front garden it can't necessarily be let to just anybody, Andrew taking it on (and not on a "peppercorn rent") was the best deal at the time.
If he really wanted to write his memoirs then as much as I personally would hate it, I don't see how he could be stopped. Is it the right thing to do, IMO no. He is effectively in the same boat as another royal releasing memoirs this year. The real issue would be if there is any commercial interest in his memoirs and if any publisher would want to be the ones to publish it and if there would be any market to buy it. That said, plenty of criminals, less than desirable people and those who have been hugely controversial have had memoirs released.
My issue will always be him going anywhere near "official service" as a working member of the RF. That IMO even extends a far as church services, traditional royal events such as the races and Christmas and for sure any Jubilee appearances (I don't have an issue with him at his father's memorial service - though could have done without the entrance with HM). I would love him to head off to Balmoral and be out of sight, and away from being able to worm his way around his mother but that is a personal wish not one I can say he "must" do.

The idea that Prince Andrew should not be permitted to attend church services, the races or Christmas functions in a private capacity is outrageous, in my opinion. He has been removed from royal duties which I think most people thought appropriate but that should surely be enough? He is not a convicted criminal!

[MARG]

I totally agree and, judging from the fact that Andrew seemed to decide to settle the issue out of court rather abruptly has merely unleashed more hatred and scorn on him. It gave the gossip new legs and its legacy is not going anywhere.

IMHO Andrew was "persuaded" to settle by the top echelon of the non-royal powers that be but, settling and saying nothing has not been to Andrew's advantage, in fact, I would go so far as to say that the extreme opposite of what was intended has happened, showing once more that ignoring issues has done the Crown no good whatsoever this Century and not much in the late previous century.

The fact of the matter is that time has moved on, social mores have changed, technology has changed the way everybody interacts and the media keeps us apprised of news 24/7 rather than via the morning and evening papers. The only thing that hasn't changed is the BRF whose failure to move with the times is underlined every time they overreact or allow obsequious minions to leak like sieves.

The little wars by leaking do not reflect well on the BRF because they show that behind the scenes there are bitter divides and the differences in the way family members are treated are disparate enough to cause comments, lots of comments.

If HM and Charles think that is doing the image of the BRF any good they are barking mad. All it shows is an unfortunate group of people bound by blood and nothing else. it makes the "family" in BRF a total sham and an exercise in total hypocrisy.

Andrew has obligingly fallen on his sword at the behest of TPTB and it has achieved nothing except people believing he is guilty of heavens knows what because if he wasn't he wouldn't have settled. Because of the failed solution, it seems all that is left to the righteous is to demand he be banished to the farthest outpost of the UK and never heard from nor even seen (judging by the running acid commentary of his daily riding within the grounds of Windsor) ever again.

[iceflower]

The Duke of York was photographed horse riding yesterday, May 20:


** rex gallery **

[ladongas]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...or-Castle.html

Andrew is to be at Garter Day.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by ladongas

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...or-Castle.html

Andrew is to be at Garter Day.

I do hope that is not true. It will unnecessarily draw attention to matters that do not need any further attention!

[iceflower]

The Duke of York was photographed today, May 23:


** dm article: Riding high! Prince Andrew is seen on horseback in Windsor...**

[Lady Daly]

Originally Posted by ladongas

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...or-Castle.html

Andrew is to be at Garter Day.

This is most unfortunate, apparently "his name will also appear in the next day's Court Circular, and he will attend Garter Day ceremonies as a Royal Knight." So this means Andrew will be wearing the grand velvet robe and plumed hat right along with the Prince of Wales and Duke of Cambridge. I can't imagine this will go over very well with them. The Queen does seem intent on rehabilitating Andrew's standing back into the royal family.

[Iluvbertie]

The Queen loves her son and wants to ensure that he is seen as rehabilitated and is seen as part of the royal family - which he is and always will be.

She has shown time and again this year that she is completely tone deaf to the wishes of her people - first with Tony Blair's garter and then with her treatment of family members who should be publicly shunned, even if attending events privately.

Charles will be the same when he is King and allow some members to walk all over him. Neither of them have any backbone.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

She has shown time and again this year that she is completely tone deaf to the wishes of her people - first with Tony Blair's garter and then with her treatment of family members who should be publicly shunned, even if attending events privately.

Charles will be the same when he is King and allow some members to walk all over him. Neither of them have any backbone.

As a general point, I think they both have plenty of backbone, and it is in use when required. The "sacking" of Andrew was clear evidence, IMO.

That said, I see abosultely no case for why Andrew should be allowed to appear at the Garter ceremony, and I do not support such a move. I think this will be a wrong decision on the part of the Queen. Whilst it was correct for Andrew to be present, I also think it was wrong for Andrew to have escorted the Queen into the Abbey for the rservice of rememberance for Prince Philip.

I do think it was the right decision to give Tony Blair the Garter. He was PM for 10 years, having one three elections. Most recent PMs till Blair have had the Garter, and to not grant it to the longest serving Labour PM could be seen as partisan.

[Denville]

Is it confrimed from the Palace that Andrew is going to appear at the Garter ceremony

[Claire]

There is no confirmation - just report in the press and photos of Andrew appearing happy. We really don't know.
I must be remembered that Camilla and Tony Blair will be in attendance. I would think the pics will be of them. And considering that more the 80% of the ceremony takes place without cameras - does it make a difference?
The honour was not removed - so why can he not attend? And then take his food upstairs?

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Denville

Is it confrimed from the Palace that Andrew is going to appear at the Garter ceremony

I do not think that there has been any official statement, just speculation in the press.