Prince Louis Engaged to Scarlett-Lauren Sirgue: Apr '21, Break Off Engagement Feb '22

[hereditarytitles]

It's certainly not what most royal families would do and the wording is strange along with using one of the pictures of the four of them arm in arm from the engagement!

Why not just release an official statement from the Cour "we're sad to confirm that Louis and Scarlett have decided to end their engagement. However we applaud their wise handling of this delicate situation and their desire to remain friends and wish Scarlett the very best." If they wanted to get a little personal.

Perfect statement! You could apply as a very competent press official for the Lux royal family!

 

[Tatiana Maria]

It is interesting that the Grand Duchess was the one to release a statement on behalf of the family. It seems that even after the reorganization of the court following the Waringo report, the grand duchess continues to function as the private "head of the family".

A photo of your ex holding your new baby as a reaction to his broken engagement is why it's understandable to wonder if she was part of their "fundamental difference" of opinion from the things we publicly know about them.

There's also this comment about family a few hours later.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/tessy_from_luxembourg/2779466810645374687/

Thank you; would anyone mind quoting or summarizing the second link as well?

 

[Heavs]

Thank you; would anyone mind quoting or summarizing the second link as well?

Family is not about blood. It's about who is willing to hold your hand when you need it the most.

Which would seem directed at the news as well.

 

[maria-olivia]

The Grand Ducal Couple and the Palace and people from Luxembourg learned the news through the french Point de Vue's Interview. Strange and strange the private comment of the Grand Duchess


For Scarlett ,When you are young, have a great job as Jurist , Member of the Barreau and with ambition , you should never enter in a Royal House with the lost of your freedom for ever.


For Louis, He lives for free in Paris in his parents home. Before going to Biaritz the Grand Duchess was more in Paris than in Luxembourg. Alexandra seems to be in Paris too. Will he continue his job with Archibald Sirgue ?

Princess Madeleine of Sweden broke her engagement too

 

[Biri]

I think now the best partner for Louis would be a woman with the similar family situation - a divorced mother.

 

[Sionevar]

Possibly Scarlett-Lauren dodged a bullet with a former future mother-in-law like Maria Teresa and an ex-wife like Tessy.

I wouldn't touch that situation with somebody else's ten foot pole. I would totally understand if Scarlett had done some contemplative thinking and said 'yeah, no'.

Tessy responding with that photo of Louis with her new kid is just...

 

[LadyFinn]

It is very possible that Scarlett-Lauren didn't like Tessy including Louis to "My Men Gang".
https://gramhir.com/media/2739522698655946853

 

[Blog Real]

It is very possible that Scarlett-Lauren didn't like Tessy including Louis to "My Men Gang".
https://gramhir.com/media/2739522698655946853

Maybe. I believe Tessy and Scarlett aren't friends, but maybe they had a cordial relationship because of Louis.
I like to see how Louis maintains a good relationship with Tessy and with Tessy's current husband. It's good for your kids to see their parents getting along.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

I agree, I thought the post (amongst a lot of other thigs!) from M-T was a bit strange.

I agree. I never felt that Scarlet and Louis quite "clicked" as a couple...he was obviously in love but she seemed a bit more reticent.

Now I think she might have dodged a bullet by avoiding a mother-in-law like MT.

 

[Fürstin Taxis]

Tbh good for her. It is one thing being a stepmother to teenagers from your soon-to-be-husband and one thing being "stepmother" to the child of his ex-wife

But that is just speculation now, I wish her well

 

[eya]

Statement by the Palace:

"“We have decided not to continue our romantic relationship, while remaining deeply attached by friendship and tenderness. ”

With these words, Prince Louis and Madame Scarlett-Lauren Sirgue expressed their desire to put an end to their engagement.

“In reflecting together on the commitment we wanted to make, we ended up admitting that our visions differ too much. ”

The Grand Duke and Grand Duchess welcome the maturity of this decision."

https://monarchie.lu/fr/actualites/...-prince-louis-avec-mme-scarlett-lauren-sirgue

 

[Heavs]

Maybe. I believe Tessy and Scarlett aren't friends, but maybe they had a cordial relationship because of Louis.
I like to see how Louis maintains a good relationship with Tessy and with Tessy's current husband. It's good for your kids to see their parents getting along.

It is great that Tessy and Louis seem to be getting along so well for the sake of their boys and that he appears to get along with Frank. But there does have to be some boundaries put in place when both get married to other people and Tessy isn't great at that and maybe neither is Louis if his mother is an example.

I generally have a strange soft spot for Tessy but posting a picture of your ex with your baby from your new relationship to commiserate with him publicly over his break up is definitely a choice. That leads to speculation.

This is all speculation of course and Scarlett could have been absolutely fine with the situation - unhappy look at the christening nonwithstanding and it could have been something else entirely that broke them up.

I would hope though that they had discussed children, whether or not it was important to have a Catholic wedding and the headaches that come with marrying even a non working member of a royal family.

 

[maria-olivia]

I think Tessy has nothing to do with that.
To me the reason is more about the future of her job. Could a Princess of Luxembourg be a lawyer , or a Member of the Court ??

 

[hereditarytitles]

I think Tessy has nothing to do with that.
To me the reason is more about the future of her job. Could a Princess of Luxembourg be a lawyer , or a Member of the Court ??

Why not? Louis is not in line, he is working as a mediator, his brother Felix is involved in a fashion company. In fact, those people who will never be in succession should have a job to earn their living. I don't see why Scarlet should not continue her work as a lawyer if she had married Louis.

We will probably never know the real reasons for the separation, as well as we never learned the real reason for Tessy and Louis' divorce.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

I think Tessy has nothing to do with that.
To me the reason is more about the future of her job. Could a Princess of Luxembourg be a lawyer , or a Member of the Court ??

I agree. I don't believe Tessy has much of anything to do with it either.

I think after the first flush of romance wore off they simply realized that they are basically incompatible.

And Scarlett with her intelligence and maturity did not want to subject herself to the restrictions and publicity of life in a European Royal family.

 

[Somebody]

According to the couple themselves they had some 'fundamental differences of opinion' (which was confirmed in slightly different wording by the court) and they explicitly stated that royal life had nothing to do with it. So I prefer to believe them. It must have been a different area in their lives (children or how to go about your ex seem likely areas that might lead to a fundamental difference of opinion - but it could be something else but haven't heard a more likely suggestion) that they had fundamentally different ideas about.

 

[Moran]

I actually thought it was well-handled - until Tessy and MT waded in!

 

[Heavs]

The likelihood is that it had nothing to do with Tessy but she is a known factor that offers a lot of evidence for potential problems and fundamental disagreement that doesn't necessarily present itself right away (unlike kids or religion) or that can grow to become an issue. And she didn't help that perception with what she posted.

We really don't know much about Scarlett as a person besides the fact that she and Louis were friends first and that she was a lawyer and mediator who also decided to start a fashion line once engaged. That's actually a story I'd like to hear the background of.

I doubt there would have been any pressure on her to give up her life because it's also exactly what Louis is doing and all his siblings bar Guillaume live very private lives to the extent that we don't really know what Sebastian and Alexandra are doing.

 

[Skippy]

Some Dutch media have also picked up on the split, and it is mentioned that Scarlett-Lauren says in the Point de Vue interview that their vision for a family, as parents, differs too much. https://www.nouveau.nl/artikel/maxi...carlett-lauren-sirgue-verbreken-hun-verloving
I'll try to translate:


Dutch: "We zijn de afgelopen vier jaar verliefd op elkaar geweest," zegt Louis in Point de Vue. "We hebben altijd geprobeerd om helemaal eerlijk tegen elkaar te zijn. Zelfs nu die eerlijkheid ons nu verdriet doet, zijn we meer dan ooit overtuigd van het belang ervan."

English: "We have been in love with each other for the past four years," says Louis in Point de Vue. "We have always tried to be totally honest with each other. Even when that honesty now hurts us, we are more than ever convinced by the importance of it."


Dutch: "We hebben veel nagedacht en dingen tot op de bodem uitgezocht," voegt Scarlett-Lauren daar aan toe. "En we kwamen moesten uiteindelijk toegeven dat onze visie voor een gezin, als ouders te ver uit elkaar liggen. Onze ambities in het leven zijn te verschillend."

English: "We have thought a lot and sought things out to the bottom," adds Scarlett-Lauren. "And eventually we had to admit that our vision for a family, as parents, are too far apart. Our ambitions in life are too different."


Dutch: Het stel gaat als vrienden uit elkaar. Scarlett-Lauren benadrukt dat de Groothertogelijke familie haar warm welkom had geheten en dat hoewel hun dierbaren verdrietig zijn over het nieuws, de genegenheid blijft. En Louis zegt dat zijn ex-verloofde geen enkele moeite had gehad met de concessies die ze moest doen als royal verloofde en haar nog altijd als een goede vriendin beschouwt.

English: The couple separate as friends. Scarlett-Lauren emphasizes that the Grand Ducal family had warmly welcomed her and that, although their loved ones are sad about the news, the affection remains. And Louis says that his ex-fiancée had had no trouble at all with the concessions that she had to do as royal fiancée and still sees her as a good friend.


Fundamental difference of opinion, indeed. As I read it, this is for the best. The end of Prince Louis and Miss Scarlett-Lauren Sirgue as a couple.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

Hmm. Well...I think we know all we need to know or are going to find out. They both sound mature, honest and intelligent. I am impressed with the way it has been handled.

No more messy Royal divorces please.

 

[maria-olivia]

Point de Vue of this Week :
On its cover Prince Felix of Luxembourg smiling with a flower in his hand : title Prince et Rois tous agriculteurs and inside Exclusif : Prince Louis of Luxembourg announcement !

 

[rominet09]

It looks as if it was Point de Vue which had the exclusivity of the news

 

[maria-olivia]

Of course but They could change their Cover !

 

[Somebody]

Some Dutch media have also picked up on the split, and it is mentioned that Scarlett-Lauren says in the Point de Vue interview that their vision for a family, as parents, differs too much. https://www.nouveau.nl/artikel/maxi...carlett-lauren-sirgue-verbreken-hun-verloving
I'll try to translate:


Dutch: "We zijn de afgelopen vier jaar verliefd op elkaar geweest," zegt Louis in Point de Vue. "We hebben altijd geprobeerd om helemaal eerlijk tegen elkaar te zijn. Zelfs nu die eerlijkheid ons nu verdriet doet, zijn we meer dan ooit overtuigd van het belang ervan."

English: "We have been in love with each other for the past four years," says Louis in Point de Vue. "We have always tried to be totally honest with each other. Even when that honesty now hurts us, we are more than ever convinced by the importance of it."

I didn't know that they had been in love (together) for 4 years, so that sounds as if their relationship started about a year after the divorce was announced (and a year prior to when it was finalized). So, by that time both Tessy and Louis were involved with someone else.

 

[hereditarytitles]

Some Dutch media have also picked up on the split, and it is mentioned that Scarlett-Lauren says in the Point de Vue interview that their vision for a family, as parents, differs too much. https://www.nouveau.nl/artikel/maxi...carlett-lauren-sirgue-verbreken-hun-verloving
I'll try to translate:


English: "We have thought a lot and sought things out to the bottom," adds Scarlett-Lauren. "And eventually we had to admit that our vision for a family, as parents, are too far apart. Our ambitions in life are too different."

That is interesting: the point is "vision for a family, as parents, are too far apart". So the separation has to do with family life and parenting. This could apply to ex-family and children as well as differences about starting a new family.

 

[MsJulie]

Does anyone think there was interference from one or more of their parents?

 

[Denville]

Doubt it. I suspect that Scarlet might want children and he already has his kids.. and Tessy is a tiresome ex wife to have hanging around. So mabye during their engagement they disputed over these issues... Scarlet might have persuaded him at first to agree to have kids but he changed his mind or admitted he didn't wnat more.. and she could see as time passed that Tessy would be a pest.

 

[Reinosa]

Doubt it. I suspect that Scarlet might want children and he already has his kids.. and Tessy is a tiresome ex wife to have hanging around. So mabye during their engagement they disputed over these issues... Scarlet might have persuaded him at first to agree to have kids but he changed his mind or admitted he didn't wnat more.. and she could see as time passed that Tessy would be a pest.

And now Tessy is guilty of his ex husband separation. Not because she was nasty but because she is TOO nice. Tessy has a new husband, another life and another son and tries to make what in Spanish we call "una familia ensamblada" that should make her older children happy and everyone relaxed. Like a lot of women like me try to do. I know a part of this blog's readers dislike Tessy. I can't understand why.

 

[Princess_Eleanor]

Some Dutch media have also picked up on the split, and it is mentioned that Scarlett-Lauren says in the Point de Vue interview that their vision for a family, as parents, differs too much. https://www.nouveau.nl/artikel/maxi...carlett-lauren-sirgue-verbreken-hun-verloving
I'll try to translate:


English: "We have thought a lot and sought things out to the bottom," adds Scarlett-Lauren. "And eventually we had to admit that our vision for a family, as parents, are too far apart. Our ambitions in life are too different."

That is interesting: the point is "vision for a family, as parents, are too far apart". So the separation has to do with family life and parenting. This could apply to ex-family and children as well as differences about starting a new family.

I wouldn't count on this being about Tessy. Tessy has got a new husband and baby, so she doesn't really seem like a threat. She also lives in a different country, so even if Scarlett found Tessy annoying, how often would she realistically have had to spend time with her? A couple of times a year maybe, as many people do with annoying relatives or in-laws.

I think there are other possibilities. Maria Teresa for instance, who we already know can be difficult and wants to be in charge of things...

I also wouldn't count out religion, which I believe someone has mentioned before. Louis + family are devout Catholics, Scarlett might not be. As someone from a Catholic family, who considers herself more of a "modern Catholic" I can tell you that even among Catholics, a lot of issues and differences can arise between those who are extremely Catholic in an old-fashioned way and want to devote every single day to their faith, and "more relaxed Catholics" or whatever you want to call it.
This could lead to all sorts of differences concerning lifestyle, how to raise children etc...

Or, since she says that thing about different visions on parenting and family, and ambitions, what if he wanted her to stay home and take care of the children (also certainly not unheard of among traditional Catholics), whereas it's really important to Scarlett to continue her career?

 

[maria-olivia]

They acted as adults . Well done !